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    Mar 18, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    Ive been thinking about moving there after I graduate... (Kentucky just isn't doing it for me... lol) But Im planning to travel there this summer. Which part of cali do you think is best? LA, San diego? somewhere on the coast? more inland?
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    Mar 18, 2012 10:18 AM GMT
    ULmatt saidIve been thinning about


    People always be thinning about California.
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    Mar 18, 2012 10:55 AM GMT
    I think somewhere on the coast instead of inland. The area is so diverse that it is difficult to make a general recommendation. Each area has its fans. Only comment about the LA area is it is quite large and if you go to the downtown area or the tourist spots, you will be disappointed. You need to see the parts that tourists generally do not see to appreciate the area.
  • ohioguy12

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    Mar 18, 2012 12:46 PM GMT
    San Diego is the best city in Cali. There is no debate.
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    Mar 18, 2012 12:54 PM GMT
    go costal. I prefer southern over northern, but even central is nice. depends on what you want to do i guess.

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    Mar 18, 2012 1:05 PM GMT
    Definitely stay near the coast.....The more inland you go the more red neck it gets.
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    Mar 18, 2012 2:27 PM GMT
    I've got a cousin in South Beach, who says it'd be the best place for my happy ass. Thinking of going there, but Chicago aside, almost all my favorite places to live are coastal. Save the Southeastern.. . so far.
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    Mar 18, 2012 2:30 PM GMT
    ULmatt saidIve been thinning about moving there after I graduate... (Kentucky just isn't doing it for me... lol) But Im planning to travel there this summer. Which part of cali do think is best? LA, San diego? somewhere on the coast? more inland?
    From New England here - moved to Los Angeles 13 years ago. LOVE the climate. As far as where u live, some of it depends on what you can afford, and, what your likes are. If you like the beach, desert, mountains, etc. Also, when you choose a place to live, I'd recommend it not being far from where you work, unless you enjoy long, crowded commutes.
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    Mar 18, 2012 2:33 PM GMT
    From a native..


    Its only a state of mind.icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 18, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidFrom a native..


    Its only a state of mind.icon_wink.gif
    As long as it's gay friendly, and not fronting. Idc.
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    Mar 18, 2012 2:39 PM GMT
    Captain_Awesome said
    TropicalMark saidFrom a native..


    Its only a state of mind.icon_wink.gif
    As long as it's gay friendly, and not fronting. Idc.
    Well then come down here to the keys!
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    Mar 18, 2012 3:22 PM GMT

    I saw the topic title and thought of this....oh I am old.



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    Mar 18, 2012 5:02 PM GMT
    San Diego is basically a retirement community or a military fetishist town. I like to fuck Marines when I visit.

    San Francisco is ok if you like aggressive panhandlers, no parking and great food.

    LA is great if you are a Kardashian or a cokehead.

    Sacramento is not great at all.

    San Jose is the worlds biggest non-city.

    Stay west and south. If you do venture inland, hit the Tahoe area and Mammoth Lake.
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    Mar 18, 2012 5:05 PM GMT
    SD is probably the best city in CA. Not too big, not too small. Perfect weather. Lots to do. Hard part is finding a job. LA is big and spread out. Lots to do. But lots of traffic, etc. SF is nice. Very expensive and very hippyish. Inland is nothing but meth labs and poor people.
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    Mar 18, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
    Yeah, I forgot about the taxes. We have some of the highest taxes in the nation and they are only going up. If you are young and dont really care then its fine.
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    Mar 18, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    As someone else commented, depends on where you can find work. With your major, Exercise Science, assume you will want to do something in the health and fitness area. Based on that, I'd say the major concentration of people and businesses is generally near the coast in Los Angeles and Orange Counties. Obviously you'll find fitness clubs everywhere, but there is an especially great emphasis on that here. That means more competition for jobs too, as outdoor, fitness-oriented folks come to this area.

    If you know what type of career you are interested in, you might start studying the websites of related businesses, maybe even make contacts. Then when you travel here, you will have much greater focus than someone coming and looking at the typical tourist sites around Hollywood. Get to know the city or town names so your search will be more focused than just Los Angeles, if you were looking at this area (e.g. Santa Monica, Venice, Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Redondo Beach, Torrance, Long Beach - in LA County, or Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Laguna Beach - in Orange County)
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    Mar 18, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
    I lived in California for 20 years, LA and Orange County (Mission Viejo & Aliso Viejo). San Diego is the best city, but it's not going to give you the same (good) urban vibe you'd get in San Francisco. However, SF is not affordable for many people. I think Orange County is the best place to live, especially coastal southern OC. It's clean, safe, sophisticated, good beaches and it's close to both LA and San Diego so you can take advantage of the good things in those cities. OC is not the evil-gelical, conservative wasteland that may people think. There's a sizeable gay community in cities like Laguna Beach, Aliso Viejo (nickamed by many Aliso Weho ---after West Hollywood) and Laguna Niguel. Since the demise of the Boom Boom Room in Laguna Beach and a couple of other gay venues, the gay nightlife in OC is limited, but you can easily drive to West Hollywood or San Diego for a night out, just have a designated driver.
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    Mar 18, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
    bluechip508 saidI lived in California for 20 years, LA and Orange County (Mission Viejo & Aliso Viejo). San Diego is the best city, but it's not going to give you the same (good) urban vibe you'd get in San Francisco. However, SF is not affordable for many people. I think Orange County is the best place to live, especially coastal southern OC. It's clean, safe, sophisticated, good beaches and it's close to both LA and San Diego so you can take advantage of the good things in those cities. OC is not the evil-gelical, conservative wasteland that may people think. There's a sizeable gay community in cities like Laguna Beach, Aliso Viejo (nickamed by many Aliso Weho ---after West Hollywood) and Laguna Niguel. Since the demise of the Boom Boom Room in Laguna Beach and a couple of other gay venues, the gay nightlife in OC is limited, but you can easily drive to West Hollywood or San Diego for a night out, just have a designated driver.


    The problem is there is no gay scene in OC and the gays that live in Laguna, Aliso Viejo, etc are all retirees.
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    Mar 18, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
    A quick scan of your profile says: San Diego is the best Cali match for you.

    That'll be $5
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    Mar 18, 2012 6:12 PM GMT
    iguanaSF saidA quick scan of your profile says: San Diego is the best Cali match for you.

    That'll be $5

    San Diego is a nice place, but it is all what you like. Many people that I know in the LA area consider San Diego to be boring. I think the biggest factor is where you can find the job satisfying, then many of the areas, including San Diego, would be fine.
  • Coug24_wyo

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    Mar 18, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
    San Diego!

    I've only visited once but I am moving there at the end of August for Graduate School and definitely recommend visiting. Gorgeous city with friendly people.
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    Mar 18, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidSD is probably the best city in CA. Not too big, not too small. Perfect weather. Lots to do. Hard part is finding a job. LA is big and spread out. Lots to do. But lots of traffic, etc. SF is nice. Very expensive and very hippyish. Inland is nothing but meth labs and poor people.

    Generally true. Take a long trip and visit the various areas - they are all very different. (Assuming you are looking for a metropolitan area). Southbeach is right on the taxes - they are very high (except for real estate taxes, which are low) and income and sales taxes are going higher. The California economy is in a death spiral -among the highest unemployment in the nation. That will improve but VERRRRY slowly. A good place not to have kids - schools are now horrible, and state spending on schools and universities is decreasing.
    SF is pretty and hip, but very small and very provincial. The SF city government thinks it is eco-friendly by making it harder to drive and park anywhere (everyone is now supposed to ride bicycles or take public transit)- except the city has the worst public transit system of any "major" city in the country. It can take an hour or more to cross the 7-mile wide town on the bus system. Also Twain remains correct today in his assessment of the weather: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." The freezing wind almost never stops in the summer in SF. Otherwise lots of gay men here. We have a higher class of corruption than LA, generally (although not on a New York or Chicago scale). The SF sheriff just pled guilty to a violent crime and has no intention of resigning, and the local radical politicians, who could remove him won't, because they like him. In LA, the mayor's son, who had been in prison for murder, was just pardoned by the governor as a political favor. There are lots of young people who live in the Mission District and seem to get by without using cars much (although a lot of them commute by free bus to their $150K+ salary jobs in Silicon Valley (San Jose) where no self-respecting hip person would want to live. A lot of gays do live in the valley (warm with swimming pools, like LA), but is a very sub-urban lifestyle.

    LA is much bigger and spread out (spreads for many miles) - bigger economy, lots of different neighborhoods to live in, etc. And much warmer. Don't worry about the Kardashians (or movie actors) - you will never see them anywhere - The film people mostly live on the beach in Malibu - in multi-million$ houses. West Hollywood and Silverlake are very gay. The old Hollywood still exists, but is mostly known as a strip where one can pick up street hustlers if so inclined. LA still has a bit of smog. For many years I visited there on business before waking up on the odd clear morning to see that there was a snow-covered mountain right there that I had never seen before.

    San Diego is warm - very pleasant all year.

    So, take the time to explore various areas. Be warned, that despite the bad economy,everywhere that you would probably want to live is very expensive to rent.
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    Mar 18, 2012 7:50 PM GMT
    It depends on what you want to do and what kind of work you want to do. San Diego is beautiful and probably has less of an attitude. What do you like to do for fun?
  • Webster666

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    Mar 18, 2012 8:22 PM GMT
    --Inland is hotter than hell.
    --San Diego and LA in the 80's, 90's. LA has lots of night life.
    --San Francisco in the 60's, 70's and not a lot of night life. Very liberal. Very gay. Beaches are usually freezing.

    San Francisco is most expensive, then LA, then San Diego.



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    Mar 18, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    ULmatt saidIve been thinking about moving there after I graduate... (Kentucky just isn't doing it for me... lol) But Im planning to travel there this summer. Which part of cali do you think is best? LA, San diego? somewhere on the coast? more inland?
    Do not let the name "Inland Empire" fool you. There's nothing majestic about the 909. icon_lol.gif

    I agree with IguanaSF's recommendation. I think San Diego would be a good fit for you.