NO MORE "don't ask don't tell" ,says a team of retired senior flag and general officers from the U.S. military.

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    Jul 10, 2008 2:44 AM GMT


    Los Angeles, CA - A new study released this week by a team of retired senior flag and general officers from the U.S. military has concluded that the ban on openly gay service members is counterproductive and should end, according to the Associated Press.

    "I believe this should have been done much earlier," said Brigadier General Hugh Aitken, USMC (Ret.), one of the authors of the report.

    The nonpartisan study group has a combined century and a half of military service from all four branches of the military, and it marks the first time a Marine Corps general has ever called publicly for an end to the gay ban.

    The report which includes ten findings and four recommendations concluded not only that the current policy prevents some gay troops from performing their duties, but that gays already serve openly, that tolerance of homosexuality in the military has grown dramatically, and that lifting the ban is “unlikely to pose any significant risk to morale, good order, discipline, or cohesion.”

    General John Shalikashvili, the former Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who previously favored the gay ban but reversed course last year in an op-ed in the New York Times, endorsed the officers’ new study, calling it “one of the most comprehensive evaluations of the issue of gays in the military since the Rand study fifteen years ago” and saying it “ought to be given serious consideration by both Congress and the Joint Chiefs.”

    Meanwhile Aaron Belkin, director of the Palm Center, said that "retired officers have surpassed lawmakers in calling for repeal of the current policy," which allows gays and lesbians to serve only if they conceal their sexual orientation.

    The Palm Center, a research institute at the University of California, Santa Barbara, commissioned the new report. The officers reached their findings independently and required a written pledge that the Center would publish their recommendations regardless of the political implications, and would not seek to influence conclusions.

    In June, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for bringing together “a cross section of people who understand the military and are committed to nondiscrimination in our country” to review “don't ask, don't tell.” Rep. Susan Davis, Democrat of California, has said she will hold hearings on the issue before the end of year.
    Gays in the Military!!
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    Jul 10, 2008 3:01 AM GMT
    Does there need to be 6 of these posts on here?
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    Jul 10, 2008 3:03 AM GMT
    tee hee hee
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    Jul 10, 2008 11:13 AM GMT
    ShawnTX saidDoes there need to be 6 of these posts on here?


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    Jul 10, 2008 1:59 PM GMT
    I want to write these guys and tell them if they really mean it to give all my friends their jobs back. The latest to get the boot just last month is looking for a civilian job. Good thing he had a boyfriend or he would have been a veteran out on the street! It is disgraceful!
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    Jul 10, 2008 2:31 PM GMT
    I'm just wondering when there are going to be riots like back in the 50's through 70's where people actually demonstrated in silent protests for their civil rights in public, only to have the gaurd come and beat the shit out of everyone cause they honestly don't want to give them rights? Doesn't anyone in my generations have the balls to organize and protest for their rights anymore?
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    Jul 10, 2008 3:10 PM GMT
    There have been three previous studies that came to the same conclusion. They were either buried and not allowed to be released or ignored when they were released. Let's hope things are different this time.

    I read another Associated Press report about this that quoted one of the authors and I think he put it very succinctly:

    Navy Vice Adm. Jack Shanahan said he had no opinion on the issue when he joined the panel, having never confronted it in his 35-year military career. A self-described Republican who opposes the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war, Shanahan said he was struck by the loss of personal integrity required by individuals to carry out "don't ask, don't tell."

    "Everyone was living a big lie — the homosexuals were trying to hide their sexual orientation and the commanders were looking the other way because they didn't want to disrupt operations by trying to enforce the law," he said.