Analysis: House GOP Budget Cuts $3.3 Trillion Out of Social Safety Net

  • metta

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    Mar 24, 2012 2:10 AM GMT

    Analysis: House GOP Budget Cuts $3.3 Trillion Out of Social Safety Net

    http://www.classwarfareexists.com/analysis-house-gop-budget-cuts-3-3-trillion-out-of-social-safety-net/
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    Mar 24, 2012 6:35 AM GMT
    In order to pay off the Reagan/Bush debt and in order to make the Bush tax cuts for the rich PERMANENT - the Repubs want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.

    The Repubs have been screwing the middle class for decades and now they want to finish the job.

    The Repub's budget would also kill millions of jobs:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076733/-Paul-Ryan-budget-would-kill-millions-of-jobs

    And most shocking of all the Repub's budget not only wouldn't reduce the National Debt - it would explode it!

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/03/ryan_deficit.html
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    southbeach1500 said
    metta8 said
    Analysis: House GOP Budget Cuts $3.3 Trillion Out of Social Safety Net

    http://www.classwarfareexists.com/analysis-house-gop-budget-cuts-3-3-trillion-out-of-social-safety-net/



    Question for Metta8:

    Is that $3.3 trillion in cuts from the projected rate of growth?


    How about you read the article and find out? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    The U.S. Supreme Court ruling in the Citizens - United case has changed the political equation in the U.S. to favor big corporations and the very wealthy. They intend to further reduce taxes on the very wealthy and big corporations by making larger political donations, "buying" (with unlimited campaign contributions) congress and the presidency. To make up for lower taxes on the rich, taxes will need to be raised on the middle class and the poor. It's Robin Hood in reverse: take from the poor, give to the rich. They also intend to reduce spending on programs for the poor and middle class to fund increased defense spending.

    see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_united
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    RickRick91 saidIn order to pay off the Reagan/Bush debt and in order to make the Bush tax cuts for the rich PERMANENT - the Repubs want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.

    The Repubs have been screwing the middle class for decades and now they want to finish the job.

    The Repub's budget would also kill millions of jobs:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076733/-Paul-Ryan-budget-would-kill-millions-of-jobs

    And most shocking of all the Repub's budget not only wouldn't reduce the National Debt - it would explode it!

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/03/ryan_deficit.html


    Could everything you report be any more bloated with shit?
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    RickRick91 saidIn order to pay off the Reagan/Bush debt and in order to make the Bush tax cuts for the rich PERMANENT - the Repubs want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.

    The Repubs have been screwing the middle class for decades and now they want to finish the job.

    The Repub's budget would also kill millions of jobs:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076733/-Paul-Ryan-budget-would-kill-millions-of-jobs

    And most shocking of all the Repub's budget not only wouldn't reduce the National Debt - it would explode it!

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/03/ryan_deficit.html


    Could everything you report be any more bloated with shit?
    And yours doesnt stink?

    Pot, meet kettle.
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    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 saidIn order to pay off the Reagan/Bush debt and in order to make the Bush tax cuts for the rich PERMANENT - the Repubs want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.

    The Repubs have been screwing the middle class for decades and now they want to finish the job.

    The Repub's budget would also kill millions of jobs:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076733/-Paul-Ryan-budget-would-kill-millions-of-jobs

    And most shocking of all the Repub's budget not only wouldn't reduce the National Debt - it would explode it!

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/03/ryan_deficit.html


    Could everything you report be any more bloated with shit?
    And yours doesnt stink?

    Pot, meet kettle.




    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.
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    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.

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    RickRick91 said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 saidIn order to pay off the Reagan/Bush debt and in order to make the Bush tax cuts for the rich PERMANENT - the Repubs want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.

    The Repubs have been screwing the middle class for decades and now they want to finish the job.

    The Repub's budget would also kill millions of jobs:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076733/-Paul-Ryan-budget-would-kill-millions-of-jobs

    And most shocking of all the Repub's budget not only wouldn't reduce the National Debt - it would explode it!

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/03/ryan_deficit.html


    Could everything you report be any more bloated with shit?
    And yours doesnt stink?

    Pot, meet kettle.




    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.


    I already discredited your entire entourage of "facts" in the other thread where you cited the very same laughable sources to "corroborate" your ideas about Paul Ryan's budget, all of which are filled with fact-free foolishness.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2253770

    The reason you usually just get a shrug of a comment from time to time is because nobody takes you seriously anymore.

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    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"

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    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"


    and just what part of that is "not true" congressman twinkie?
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    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 saidIn order to pay off the Reagan/Bush debt and in order to make the Bush tax cuts for the rich PERMANENT - the Repubs want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.

    The Repubs have been screwing the middle class for decades and now they want to finish the job.

    The Repub's budget would also kill millions of jobs:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076733/-Paul-Ryan-budget-would-kill-millions-of-jobs

    And most shocking of all the Repub's budget not only wouldn't reduce the National Debt - it would explode it!

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/03/ryan_deficit.html


    Could everything you report be any more bloated with shit?
    And yours doesnt stink?

    Pot, meet kettle.




    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.


    I already discredited your entire entourage of "facts" in the other thread where you cited the very same sources to "corroborate" your ideas about Paul Ryan's budget, all of which are filled with fact-free foolishness.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2253770

    The reason you usually just get a shrug of a comment from time to time is because nobody takes you seriously anymore.







    LOL
    BULLSHIT.

    The link below is the lone "fact" you posted in the thread you refer to.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/gop-budget-plan-cuts-deeply-into-domestic-programs-reshapes-medicare-medicaid/2012/03/20/gIQAxFbQPS_story.html
    It IN NO WAY disproves the facts I posted about what this godawful anti-middle class Repub budget would do.
    In FACT - it CONFIRMS it!

    The link is to an article that states the fact that the Repubs want to balance the budget by privatizing Medicare and making deep cuts to the social safety net that middle and lower income Americans depend on - in order to make deep permanent tax cuts for the rich and corporate America.
    Those are the priorities of the greedy selfish rich Repub elites.
    Screw the middle class in order to keep taxes low on the rich.

    Your UTTER FAILURE to provide ANY evidence to disprove the repellent ANTI-MIDDLE CLASS priorities and policies that are contained in the Repub's budget make your comments completely non-credible.

    That's why your posts are immediately discounted by everyone - except your fellow sad few members of the lame brainwashed RJ conservaposse.
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    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"


    and just what part of that is "not true" congressman twinkie?


    His claim doofus! ^
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    Mar 24, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
    RickRick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 saidIn order to pay off the Reagan/Bush debt and in order to make the Bush tax cuts for the rich PERMANENT - the Repubs want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.

    The Repubs have been screwing the middle class for decades and now they want to finish the job.

    The Repub's budget would also kill millions of jobs:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076733/-Paul-Ryan-budget-would-kill-millions-of-jobs

    And most shocking of all the Repub's budget not only wouldn't reduce the National Debt - it would explode it!

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/03/ryan_deficit.html


    Could everything you report be any more bloated with shit?
    And yours doesnt stink?

    Pot, meet kettle.




    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.


    I already discredited your entire entourage of "facts" in the other thread where you cited the very same sources to "corroborate" your ideas about Paul Ryan's budget, all of which are filled with fact-free foolishness.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2253770

    The reason you usually just get a shrug of a comment from time to time is because nobody takes you seriously anymore.







    LOL
    BULLSHIT.

    The link below is the lone "fact" you posted in the thread you refer to.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/gop-budget-plan-cuts-deeply-into-domestic-programs-reshapes-medicare-medicaid/2012/03/20/gIQAxFbQPS_story.html
    It IN NO WAY disproves the facts I posted about what this godawful anti-middle class Repub budget would do.
    In FACT - it CONFIRMS it!

    The link is to an article that states the fact that the Repubs want to balance the budget by privatizing Medicare and making deep cuts to the social safety net that middle and lower income Americans depend on - in order to make deep permanent tax cuts for the rich and corporate America.
    Those are the priorities of the greedy selfish rich Repub elites.
    Screw the middle class in order to keep taxes low on the rich.

    Your UTTER FAILURE to provide ANY evidence to disprove the repellent ANTI-MIDDLE CLASS priorities and policies that are contained in the Repub's budget make your comments completely non-credible.

    That's why your posts are immediately discounted by everyone - except your fellow sad few members of the lame brainwashed RJ conservaposse.


    1. You provided a source that is as stupid as someone on the far religious right citing an article from WND to prove something.
    2. You completely misrepresented Paul Ryan's plan by parroting the false claim (about how his budget would enhance our budget shortfalls) from the link which you again tried to peddle in here to readers who might not have noticed that you already got caught with your foot up your ass the first time around.
    3. Keep living in that fantasy of yours because if you stopped, some of us wouldn't have a reason to visit realjock during the day to get our required daily dose of entertainment.
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    mocktwinkie said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"


    and just what part of that is "not true" congressman twinkie?


    His claim doofus! ^
    That's YOUR claim dufus! Can't you even read your own responses?icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"


    and just what part of that is "not true" congressman twinkie?


    His claim doofus! ^
    That's YOUR claim dufus! Can't you even read your own responses?icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    My god what kind of brain atrophy do you have going on?

    rickrick made a claim (ostensibly based on the article he cited) that repealing the tax cuts alone will single-handedly bring our debt to manageable levels. The article said no such thing, it said that it would be PART of a concerted proposal to lessen the increase in debt. Obviously repealing the tax cuts wouldn't hurt in helping to decrease the rate of debt, but it in no way is the only answer and spending is the much greater problem. In fact, cutting spending will be the only way to actually get closer to decreasing debt rather than just slowing the increase.

    Of course, I'm obviously wasting my time replying to someone who doesn't know how to read.
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    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"





    LOL!
    MORE bullshit from you!

    You're obviously a dishonest person who's willing to lie to try to bullshit people into believing what you want them to believe - because you've totally misrepresented what the study found.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    The final sentence of the article - summing up the impact of the facts discovered in the study is:
    "Letting the Bush tax cuts lapse would stabilize the debt quickly and give policy makers the time to get the rest of the job done right."


    THAT is the correct approach to reducing our debt problem.
    End the Bush tax cuts that added 2.5 trillion to the National Debt and FAILED to deliver the strong economy and strong job growth promised by the Repubs.
    That would quickly slow the growth of our debt - AS IS CLEARLY STATED IN THE STUDY.
    Then policy makers can work together to come up with a balanced and fair package of spending cuts that spreads the pain equally across ALL segments of our country - instead of the Repub approach which punishes middle class Americans while protecting the rich from making any equal sacrifice.
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    Well I find that totally unsurprising.
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    Mar 24, 2012 8:31 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"


    and just what part of that is "not true" congressman twinkie?


    His claim doofus! ^
    That's YOUR claim dufus! Can't you even read your own responses?icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    My god what kind of brain atrophy do you have going on?

    rickrick made a claim (ostensibly based on the article he cited) that repealing the tax cuts alone will single-handedly bring our debt to manageable levels. The article said no such thing, it said that it would be PART of a concerted proposal to lessen the increase in debt. Obviously repealing the tax cuts wouldn't hurt in helping to decrease the rate of debt, but it in no way is the only answer and spending is the much greater problem. In fact, cutting spending will be the only way to actually get closer to decreasing debt rather than just slowing the increase.

    Of course, I'm obviously wasting my time replying to someone who doesn't know how to read.




    You're a liar.
    The article states that simply ending the Bush tax cuts would bring down the debt to sustainable levels.
    That's exactly what I stated just in different words.

    And I heartily endorse the study's recommendation that further action be taken to reduce spending.
    AS YOU DAMN WELL KNOW from the arguments we've had about reducing the National Debt in these threads many times in the past.

    You're just a liar, Twinkie.
    You always have been.
    And we all know it.
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    RickRick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"


    and just what part of that is "not true" congressman twinkie?


    His claim doofus! ^
    That's YOUR claim dufus! Can't you even read your own responses?icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    My god what kind of brain atrophy do you have going on?

    rickrick made a claim (ostensibly based on the article he cited) that repealing the tax cuts alone will single-handedly bring our debt to manageable levels. The article said no such thing, it said that it would be PART of a concerted proposal to lessen the increase in debt. Obviously repealing the tax cuts wouldn't hurt in helping to decrease the rate of debt, but it in no way is the only answer and spending is the much greater problem. In fact, cutting spending will be the only way to actually get closer to decreasing debt rather than just slowing the increase.

    Of course, I'm obviously wasting my time replying to someone who doesn't know how to read.




    You're a liar.
    The article states that simply ending the Bush tax cuts would bring down the debt to sustainable levels.
    That's exactly what I stated just in different words.

    And I heartily endorse the study's recommendation that further action be taken to reduce spending.
    AS YOU DAMN WELL KNOW from the arguments we've had about reducing the National Debt in these threads many times in the past.

    You're just a liar, Twinkie.
    You always have been.
    And we all know it.


    You claimed that letting bush tax cuts expire would "ALL BY ITSELF" bring the debt back to manageable levels. But that's not what the article said, hence, YOU sir are the liar. Trying to foist that title on me isn't going to change anything.

    What's even more hilarious is that you quote the article to substantiate your exaggerated and immodest claims that the bush tax cuts all by itself will bring the debt back to manageable levels, and then when we look at it:

    "Letting the Bush tax cuts lapse would stabilize the debt quickly and give policy makers the time to get the rest of the job done right."

    We see that it doesn't say that! It uses words like "stabilize the debt" and then it goes on to say that there's more that would need to be done to solve the problem.
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    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    TropicalMark said
    mocktwinkie said
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    RickRick91 said
    LOL

    The fact that Twinkie posted no facts of any kind and merely posted a comment to whine about facts he doesn't like seeing posted - makes it clear that his comment is what's bloated with bullshit.

    And speaking of bullshit - here's more on the Repub's budget.

    http://www.yahoo.com/w/news_america/house-panel-approves-contentious-gop-budget-plan-061538793.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    This budget is not a credible real attempt at governing responsibly on behalf of ALL Americans while getting our debt under control.
    It's purely election year posturing.

    The Repubs have shown time and time again since they took control of the House last year that they only care about corporate America and the richest 1% - and they simply cannot govern responsibly.



    Here's an "inconvenient truth" for you RickRick:

    The "Buffett Rule" will only produce an additional $47 Billion over the next 11 years. That's about $4.7 Billion per year.

    The USA currently runs a deficit of $4 Billion per day.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/report-31b-buffett-rule-tax-rich-15962368

    The Ryan budget doesn't go nearly far enough in cutting the bloated Federal government and it's out of control spending what we have experienced over the first 4 years of Obama's "leadership."





    Here are SEVERAL inconvenient truths for you:

    1.) Simply allowing the failed Bush tax cuts to expire would ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring our debt growth down to manageable levels.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3382

    2.) REPUB presidents have added TRILLIONS more to the National Debt than Democratic presidents have.

    3.) The supposedly "fiscally conservative" Ronald Reagan that you Repubs (ridiculously) worship as a model of fiscal restraint and small government - has by far the worst record in US history on exploding the National Debt.
    Ronnie more than TRIPLED the National Debt - and hugely increased the size of the federal government to boot!
    The big government budget-busting president of modern political history is REPIBLICAN RONALD REAGAN.



    1. This "source" is extremely suspect as a non-partisan study.

    2. Even according to the source it is simply NOT TRUE, as you so confidently state, that allowing the bush tax cuts to expire will, "ALL BY ITSELF quickly bring ourt debt growth down to manageable levels". What the hell do you call a "manageable level"? Slowing the rate at which our debt grows by a few dollars?

    From the article: "If we continue current policies — including a further extension of the Bush tax cuts, which policymakers recently extended through 2012 — deficits will remain high throughout the decade and the debt will rise to 95 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 2021"

    "By itself, of course, that action wouldn’t solve our fiscal challenges. Congress ought to tackle fundamental tax reform"


    and just what part of that is "not true" congressman twinkie?


    His claim doofus! ^
    That's YOUR claim dufus! Can't you even read your own responses?icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    My god what kind of brain atrophy do you have going on?

    rickrick made a claim (ostensibly based on the article he cited) that repealing the tax cuts alone will single-handedly bring our debt to manageable levels. The article said no such thing, it said that it would be PART of a concerted proposal to lessen the increase in debt. Obviously repealing the tax cuts wouldn't hurt in helping to decrease the rate of debt, but it in no way is the only answer and spending is the much greater problem. In fact, cutting spending will be the only way to actually get closer to decreasing debt rather than just slowing the increase.

    Of course, I'm obviously wasting my time replying to someone who doesn't know how to read.




    You're a liar.
    The article states that simply ending the Bush tax cuts would bring down the debt to sustainable levels.
    That's exactly what I stated just in different words.

    And I heartily endorse the study's recommendation that further action be taken to reduce spending.
    AS YOU DAMN WELL KNOW from the arguments we've had about reducing the National Debt in these threads many times in the past.

    You're just a liar, Twinkie.
    You always have been.
    And we all know it.


    You claimed that letting bush tax cuts expire would "ALL BY ITSELF" bring the debt back to manageable levels. But that's not what the article said, hence, YOU sir are the liar. Trying to foist that title on me isn't going to change anything.





    I used the term manageable levels.
    The article uses the term sustainable levels.

    They OBVIOUSLY infer the same thing.
    DUH!

    Your pathetic attempt to try to distract from THE POINT the study makes about the need to let the Bush tax cuts lapse - in order to get our debt under control - is a BIG FAIL.

    The point is not about my word CHOICE.

    It's about making the right CHOICE when it comes to how do we get our debt problem under control.

    The Repub approach is to put in place permanent deep tax cuts for the rich that would protect the rich from having to share their burden of the sacrifices necessary to get our debt under control - while forcing middle class Americans to bear the burden.

    The Democratic approach is to let the Bush tax cuts lapse and then make spending cuts that affect all Americans EQUALLY.

    Your bullshit attempts to distract will never change the fact that the Repub approach is UNFAIR and DEAD WRONG.

    And your bullshit will never change the minds of the American people.
    They support the Democratic approach - NOT the Repub scheme!
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    rick,

    I already pointed out, besides your exaggerated misrepresentations, that the study itself does not look balanced at all, especially with the opinionated policy material rife within the content.

    Your word choice is important when conveying a message. You continually make outlandish and exaggerated claims.

    Who even needs this article to realize the logical correlation between an increase in revenue and a corresponding slowing of the debt growth. It's like d'oh! Of course, that's assuming that if taxes go up that revenue will go up, and that is not always the case. In fact, many times when taxes go up revenue goes down.

    The real issue, which you don't want to think about, is that it would only play a part in SLOWING the increase in debt. So after we let the tax cuts expire then what? Certainly cutting spending and programs isn't the answer, right?

    You keep harping about how we need to let the tax cuts expire as though somehow that is really the magical wand-waving answer for tackling our long-term problems.

    You know what the fucking answer is? CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT. When bleeding starts happening, then you know we're actually on our way to truly FIXING our long-term fiscal problems. Aawww, but wouldn't it be nice if we lived in la la land where cuts never affect people?
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    Mar 24, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    This radical right wing nonsense is D.O.A.
    It will never pass in the Senate.
    It would never be signed into law by the President.

    The damn Republicans won't give up trying to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
    Assholes.
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    Webster666 saidThis radical right wing nonsense is D.O.A.
    It will never pass in the Senate.
    It would never be signed into law by the President.

    The damn Republicans won't give up trying to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
    Assholes.




    The only way to make the Repubs wake up and realize that they're on the wrong track with their policies that help the richest 1% and screw the middle class - is by going to the polls this November and voting a straight Democratic ticket.

    Losing seats in the Congress and failing to succeed in their goal to destroy President Obama's reelection bid will teach the Repubs that they need to revise their platform and priorities and start working for middle class Americans instead of shilling for corporate America and the rich.
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    mocktwinkie saidrick,

    I already pointed out, besides your exaggerated misrepresentations, that the study itself does not look balanced at all, especially with the opinionated policy material rife within the content.

    Your word choice is important when conveying a message. You continually make outlandish and exaggerated claims.

    Who even needs this article to realize the logical correlation between an increase in revenue and a corresponding slowing of the debt growth. It's like d'oh! Of course, that's assuming that if taxes go up that revenue will go up, and that is not always the case. In fact, many times when taxes go up revenue goes down.

    The real issue, which you don't want to think about, is that it would only play a part in SLOWING the increase in debt. So after we let the tax cuts expire then what? Certainly cutting spending and programs isn't the answer, right?

    You keep harping about how we need to let the tax cuts expire as though somehow that is really the magical wand-waving answer for tackling our long-term problems.

    You know what the fucking answer is? CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT. When bleeding starts happening, then you know we're actually on our way to truly FIXING our long-term fiscal problems. Aawww, but wouldn't it be nice if we lived in la la land where cuts never affect people?







    Your claim that I don't support spending cuts is dishonest and false.
    I've ALWAYS expressed support in these blog threads for a balanced approach to reducing our debt - by increasing revenues (by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire) AND by cutting spending.

    Just like the study I posted advocates.
    Just like President Obama advocates.
    Just like the Congressional Democrats advocate.

    The problem is that the REPUBS in the Congress - especially the Tea Party radicals - won't agree to tax increases of any kind.
    It's the obstructionist Repub's refusal to attack our debt problem by BOTH cutting spending AND increasing revenues that's the problem.

    That's why we need to replace as many obstructionist Congressional Repubs as possible to make it possible for the Congress to make real progress on reducing our debt.

    The radical Tea Party Repub's "my way or the highway" attitude is the stumbling block that needs to be removed.
    And the way to remove it is by booting all of the extremist Tea Party Repubs out of Congress this November.

    BTW - your LUST to "CUT CUT CUT ETC." until you see blood (!) is very revealing.