Madonna Threatened With Fine If She Violates St. Petersburg, Russia, Anti-Gay Law - You can thank Evangelist Scott Lively for the hate in Russia and Uganda

  • metta

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    Mar 24, 2012 3:18 AM GMT
    Madonna Threatened With Fine If She Violates St. Petersburg Anti-Gay Law

    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=11320&MediaType=1&Category=22
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    Mar 24, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
    Hell I'd give'm $200 and tell'm to keep the change.

    I'm sure she'll do the same. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 24, 2012 4:28 AM GMT
    A truly reductive overture by the queen of self-promotion.

    Boycott the city, Ms. Ciccone - really put your money where your principles claim to lie.

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    Mar 24, 2012 4:34 AM GMT
    fagneticspermeability saidI wonder if this is just a marketing tactic to shuttle a middle aged performer in the limelight for her 'noteworthy good causes'. For having been a performer for thirty years, she's only recently used her celebrity status to support activism. Basically over the past two and a half years.

    What about other performers that don't use their actual 'for' profit performances but actually invest their own personal time to support philanthropic and activist causes? Causes to support African aid (which include gender equality, AIDS awareness), UN humanitarian efforts, Amnesty International or Greenpeace just to name a few?

    So after Madonna collects her millions of rubles for her overpriced concert tickets (which she'll more than likely lip sync to) she'll throw a few of them toward the fine she'll incur and walk away richer and a heroine. How clever! Meanwhile, there are actually performers that give of their time to help support humanitarian equality because they truly care.


    That's not true. She has always spoken about gay rights, bullying, war, women's rights, etc. You probably have never heard of what she has done. At one point, she was black listed (2003) for her stance against the war in Iraq and her American Life album.
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    Mar 24, 2012 4:35 AM GMT
    osakarob saidA truly reductive overture by the queen of self-promotion.

    Boycott the city, Ms. Ciccone - really put your money where your principles claim to lie.



    Boycotting will only hurt the youth that is being targeted by the government. By going, she shows that they SHOULD stand up for themselves.
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    Mar 24, 2012 4:50 AM GMT
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    fagneticspermeability saidI wonder if this is just a marketing tactic to shuttle a middle aged performer in the limelight for her 'noteworthy good causes'. For having been a performer for thirty years, she's only recently used her celebrity status to support activism. Basically over the past two and a half years.

    What about other performers that don't use their actual 'for' profit performances but actually invest their own personal time to support philanthropic and activist causes? Causes to support African aid (which include gender equality, AIDS awareness), UN humanitarian efforts, Amnesty International or Greenpeace just to name a few?

    So after Madonna collects her millions of rubles for her overpriced concert tickets (which she'll more than likely lip sync to) she'll throw a few of them toward the fine she'll incur and walk away richer and a heroine. How clever! Meanwhile, there are actually performers that give of their time to help support humanitarian equality because they truly care.


    That's not true. She has always spoken about gay rights, bullying, war, women's rights, etc. You probably have never heard of what she has done. At one point, she was black listed (2003) for her stance against the war in Iraq and her American Life album.


    That's what I love. Just because it doesn't make the headlines on CNN or E! News doesn't mean it's not happening. Madonna is one of the most philanthropic (is that a word?) celebrities extant and continues to support many causes.

    She's been linked to:
    Afghanistan Relief Organization
    American Foundation for AIDS Research
    BID 2 BEAT AIDS
    Charity Projects Entertainment Fund
    Children in Need
    H.E.L.P. Malawi
    Live Earth
    Make-A-Wish Foundation
    Millennium Promise Alliance
    Millennium Villages
    Raisa Gorbachev Foundation
    Raising Malawi
    Treatment Action Campaign
    UN Millennium Project
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    Mar 24, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    LYKE OMG MADONNA!
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    Mar 24, 2012 4:59 AM GMT
    Madonna's sister served me a cone at an ice cream shop in 1984. She was a Social Science major at MSU. icon_wink.gif

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    Mar 24, 2012 5:04 AM GMT
    Loveitohateit, I think that there might be a better parallel in the past for what Madonna could and should do.

    In 1985, Steven Van Zandt, a musician with Bruce Springsteen's band, wanted to do something meaningful to protest the unjust racial segregation enforced by the cruel white-minority controlled government of South Africa against the black majority.

    It was an issue that had been gaining international attention at the time because the South African government's policies were so out of line with the moral expectations of other global governments. There were some finer nuances to his concerns, but Van Zandt reasoned that since the Reagan administration wasn't doing enough politically, he would try to achieve something impactful as an artist.

    Van Zandt was particularly interested in a gambling resort town called Sun City, that had played host to international music acts. He wrote a protest song and recruited dozens of other artists to sing on the record. The song's most memorable line and overall message was "I ain't gonna play Sun City". Those artists - which included marque names like Hall & Oates, Springsteen, Herby Hancock, Bob Dylan, U2, Lou Reed and Ringo Starr among others - pledged to not play the resort venue until meaningful change had been brought to the region.

    If Madonna were sincere, she could do likewise. She need not write a protest song, but a forceful and articulate message refusing to do business in St. Petersburg until the oppressive regime there repeals their draconian anti-gay policy would demonstrate a far more thoughtful and truly supportive measure IMHO.
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    Mar 24, 2012 5:07 AM GMT
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    osakarob saidA truly reductive overture by the queen of self-promotion.

    Boycott the city, Ms. Ciccone - really put your money where your principles claim to lie.



    Boycotting will only hurt the youth that is being targeted by the government. By going, she shows that they SHOULD stand up for themselves.
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    Mar 24, 2012 5:08 AM GMT

    Madonna has supported AMFAR (Foundation for AIDS Research) and gay causes since the eighties......
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    Mar 24, 2012 5:23 AM GMT
    Madonna has always stood up for all of us and her gay brother. I think she should go to St. Petersburg and say gay gay gay gay gay about a million times and tell the sons of bitches to shove it.
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    Mar 24, 2012 5:46 AM GMT
    You might say this is Russia in the topic. I thought at first it was in Florida, which wouldn't be implausible.
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    Mar 24, 2012 6:03 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidYou might say this is Russia in the topic. I thought at first it was in Florida, which wouldn't be implausible.
    Pfft...St Pete Florida is gayer than Wilton Manors. The only laws they have against homosexuality there is don't have sex in the middle of St Pete Diner at 3am after the bars close.
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    Mar 24, 2012 6:27 AM GMT
    But she is atleast trying to do what most celebs stay away with
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    Mar 24, 2012 6:27 AM GMT
    I like her somehow
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    Mar 24, 2012 6:36 AM GMT
    Perplex saidBut she is atleast trying to do what most celebs stay away with
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    Mar 24, 2012 7:01 AM GMT
    Perplex said I like her somehow
    I liked her ever since she was still "like a virgin." That was almost career suicide back then. She's never been afraid to push the limits, even if it costs a few bucks. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 24, 2012 10:53 AM GMT
    Ruh roh. Knowing Madonna, she'll probably have about a dozen same-sex couples kiss onstage, just for good measure. Fuck a $170 fine.

    Madge supported gay men and promoted gay living back when it was still stigmatized and waaay before gay become fashionable. For that, this broad will always have my respect, no matter how crappy her music is.

    Thanks, Madge.

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    Mar 24, 2012 11:51 AM GMT
    This amazing woman will stand up for us gays like she always has, violate the anti gay law and pay the $170 fine with a smile on her face!

    You go girl!!
    Madge we love you!
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:56 AM GMT
    The beat goes on...
    Why is this relevant news not making it in a irrelevant!
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:57 AM GMT
    fagneticspermeability saidI wonder if this is just a marketing tactic to shuttle a middle aged performer in the limelight for her 'noteworthy good causes'. For having been a performer for thirty years, she's only recently used her celebrity status to support activism. Basically over the past two and a half years.


    Lol I'd like to see your evidence for this. Raising Malawi began in 2006 (SIX years ago), but her concert proceeds to AMFAR in 1990, 1993, etc, as well as safe sex promotions, Live Aid, Live Earth, Tsunami, etc are more examples of where Madonna has donated time and/or money to good causes throughout her extensive career.

    This St Petersburg issue is Madonna fighting for YOU - it's defies logic that gay men on a gay fitness forum would immediately attack her for this action when it in fact gives homosexuals a bigger voice. I really don't get how celebrities get attacked by some ("Lady Gaga has a penis!", etc) who are actually on your side - is it just because they are successful and you're not? I'm genuinely curious.

    Thumbs up to Madonna on this one. icon_cool.gif
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:59 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidYou might say this is Russia in the topic. I thought at first it was in Florida, which wouldn't be implausible.


    "Russia" is in the title. LOL @ Florida.
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    Mar 24, 2012 12:31 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidYou might say this is Russia in the topic. I thought at first it was in Florida, which wouldn't be implausible.

    "Russia" is in the title. LOL @ Florida.

    It is now, wasn't originally, because that is how the linked article title reads.
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    Mar 24, 2012 12:31 PM GMT
    Ha is if Madonna gives two fucks about that fine, it's basically pennies to her. Very proud to see she is out there to support her gays. Anyone who thinks this is a marketing tactic/self promotion needs to take a look at the bigger picture. This is a gay website right ? icon_rolleyes.gif I love this woman even more now.

    seanp7 I really don't get how celebrities get attacked by some ("Lady Gaga has a penis!", etc) who are actually on your side - is it just because they are successful and you're not? I'm genuinely curious.


    I'm completely mystified too. It's a shame a lot of famous gay men don't have the balls to do this sort of thing. So thank god for people like Madge.