acid zappers

  • UStriathlete

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    Aug 01, 2007 10:42 PM GMT
    really great supplement. www.acidzappers.com

    you can buy it on www.johnhowardsports.com as well

    used it at age group nationals and regional championships, awesome results. felt fresh from start to finish, could push harder beacause i didn't fill the lactic acid build up, and recovery was zero.

    team discovery is using it too.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Aug 02, 2007 5:28 AM GMT
    You can get the same benefit from a good calcium magnesium brand and malic acid in pill form. Taken together after a workout greatly reduces muscle soreness- almost to the point of not having any!! (drink alot of water) Mike
  • UStriathlete

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    Aug 02, 2007 2:26 PM GMT
    Not really....but Okay.
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    Aug 02, 2007 11:21 PM GMT
    If you have a bottle of this stuff, what does the label list as the actual ingredients?

    The web site is nothing but a bunch of double-talk and hype, and the label reproduced there does not specificaly list the ingredients. It looks like it's just ordinary calcium carbonate, like you would get in any over-the-counter antacid, with some fillers. But at twenty times the price!
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    Aug 02, 2007 11:57 PM GMT
    Never mind, I found it:

    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6066342-description.html

    (Can you tell I'm procrastinating on some other task?)

    It's just calcium carbonate with a little bit of potassium hydroxide (a.k.a. lye) and some fillers. The fillers are probably to keep the KOH from burning your tissues before it hits your stomach. Basically, it's just an antacid.

    Save your money, get some rolaids or a generic equivalent. If you really think the KOH gives a worthwhile extra kick (very unlikely), you can buy lots for a few dollars. Or lick a corroded battery.
  • UStriathlete

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    Aug 03, 2007 12:06 AM GMT
    YOU have no idea! Stop multi-tasking!

    TAMER Labs, their ingredient is Alka-Plex is FDA recognized as a new dietary ingredient.

    Don't knock it, until you try it!
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    Aug 03, 2007 1:39 AM GMT
    What do you mean? I'm not saying that it doesn't work... just that it's a rip-off.
    "Alka-Plex" is a nonsense word they use to name their formulation. This is a popular ploy among supplement makers because it adds an extra layer of obscurity for anyone trying to look up their ingredients. But they have to disclose what's really in it. Anyone can look it up. This stuff is just a simple antacid.
    In simple terms, each tablet contain about 563 milligrams chalk, 51 milligrams lye and 386 milligrams of cellulose.
    The only real difference from regular rolaids is that a bottle of 250 tablets contains about 13 grams of food grade lye. That costs about $1 on-line. This outfit is charging about $65 for it.
  • UStriathlete

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    Aug 03, 2007 3:58 AM GMT
    YOU just don't get it. If it was as simple to use rolaids, every athlete would be using it. BUT that's not the case, now is it?! There was even a pilot study conducted at the Seattle Performance Medicine done in Jan 06. it's even approved by the US Anti-Doping Agency. if it was just like rolaids, i don't think the USADA would waste their time and money doing tests and study on rolaids.
    pH levels are crucial for endurance athletes as well as everyone else. considering most people with a diease, are very acidic.
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    Aug 03, 2007 4:39 AM GMT
    If it's not what mindgarden says it is what is it then? It is some chemical with a definable structure, or is a combination of known chemicals, and no, the name means nothing.
    The human pH is very tightly controlled -- slightly alkaline -- and humans don't get very acidic -- we die long before we get acidic. Also lactate may not even be connected with muscle soreness, and the acidosis you get from exercise is more likely from release of H+ released from the production of ATP anearobically, and long term muscle soreness is more likely from trauma and inflammation to the muscle.
    That said, I'm not saying that stuff doesn't work at all, but I would be curious to read the pilot study if you have a link or the information where one can find it.