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Trayvon Martin Killing: Defense presents a far different version of events.

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    QUOTE Mar 26, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
    According to Zimmerman and supporting witness accounts, Trayvon punched and broke his nose and slammed his head against the pavement leaving him bloody and battered.

    Just a kid walking around with a bag of skittles who randomly gets shot? I guess we'll find out!

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239#.T3D9kdV2Os0



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    QUOTE Mar 26, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
    Yeah...totally believable for the smaller, unarmed man to chase down and beat on a larger man he knows is carrying a gun. icon_rolleyes.gif



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    QUOTE Mar 26, 2012 11:55 PM GMT
    The state prosecutor is bringing in audio and voice recognition experts.. We shall see who was screaming for help.. Then we shall all know what happened!icon_wink.gif

    Oh yeah, And we have the phone records too! The picture will come very clear.
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    QUOTE Mar 26, 2012 11:56 PM GMT
    http://www.newsmax.com/US/trayvon-martin-zimmerman-killing/2012/03/26/id/433912

    We just don't know yet, but it does sound like there might be another side to this one.
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    QUOTE Mar 26, 2012 11:59 PM GMT
    White4DarkerFL saidYeah...totally believable for the smaller, unarmed man to chase down and beat on a larger man he knows is carrying a gun.


    Why don't we wait and let the evidence speak for itself!
  • Timbales Posts: 13815
    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:04 AM GMT
    does it change the fact Zimmerman did not stay in his car and ignored the 911 operator who told him not to approach?
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:05 AM GMT
    Why is a community watch person armed anyway!! Just a matter of time b4 a wannabe cop goes haywire!
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
    Timbales saiddoes it change the fact Zimmerman did not stay in his car and ignored the 911 operator who told him not to approach?
    Not at all!
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidWhy is a community watch person armed anyway!! Just a matter of time b4 a wannabe cop goes haywire!
    Remember.. zimm was a 'self appointed' community watchman! He just wanted a title with 'man' at the end.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:17 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidWhy is a community watch person armed anyway!! Just a matter of time b4 a wannabe cop goes haywire!


    That's an issue. Rarely would I agree with a rent a cop being armed.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:21 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    White4DarkerFL saidYeah...totally believable for the smaller, unarmed man to chase down and beat on a larger man he knows is carrying a gun.


    Why don't we wait and let the evidence speak for itself!


    The evidence is already out. Zimmerman's lame response defies logic and common sense. If somebody's head is being "bashed against the cement" it will certainly cause some type of concussion or TBI. A trip to the ER is virtually guaranteed.

    These craven defendants always have to come up with something. Just ask Casey Anthony or OJ.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    White4DarkerFL said
    mocktwinkie said
    White4DarkerFL saidYeah...totally believable for the smaller, unarmed man to chase down and beat on a larger man he knows is carrying a gun.


    Why don't we wait and let the evidence speak for itself!


    The evidence is already out. Zimmerman's lame response defies logic and common sense. If somebody's head is being "bashed against the cement" it will certainly cause some type of concussion or TBI. A trip to the ER is virtually guaranteed.

    These craven defendants always have to come up with something. Just ask Casey Anthony or OJ.


    We simply don't know yet

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager

    "Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.

    Zimmerman began yelling for help.

    Several witnesses heard those cries, and there has been a dispute about whether they came from Zimmerman or Trayvon.

    Lawyers for Trayvon's family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.

    One witness, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him — and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.

    Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest at very close range, according to authorities.

    When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head.

    Paramedics gave him first aid but he said he did not need to go to the hospital. He got medical care the next day."
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:54 AM GMT
    Grown man stalks kid based on racist bullshit, kid gets freaked out thinking he might be attacked/raped, grown man confronts kid, kid fights back, kid gets the upper hand due to the adult being a complete failure.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 12:59 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidGrown man stalks kid based on racist bullshit, kid gets freaked out thinking he might be attacked/raped, grown man confronts kid, kid fights back, kid gets the upper hand due to the adult being a complete failure.

    "In his version of events, Zimmerman had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words and then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him."

    We'll have to see what the investigation turns up.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:07 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidGrown man stalks kid based on racist bullshit, kid gets freaked out thinking he might be attacked/raped, grown man confronts kid, kid fights back, kid gets the upper hand due to the adult being a complete failure.


    You're already biased because you're a racist -- you judge things based on race.

    Meanwhile the rest of us are curious to understand more about what happened.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:18 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    White4DarkerFL said
    mocktwinkie said
    White4DarkerFL saidYeah...totally believable for the smaller, unarmed man to chase down and beat on a larger man he knows is carrying a gun.


    Why don't we wait and let the evidence speak for itself!


    The evidence is already out. Zimmerman's lame response defies logic and common sense. If somebody's head is being "bashed against the cement" it will certainly cause some type of concussion or TBI. A trip to the ER is virtually guaranteed.

    These craven defendants always have to come up with something. Just ask Casey Anthony or OJ.


    We simply don't know yet"


    I doubt we'll ever know the whole story. But if you're walking through a neighborhood and somebody approaches you, gives you crap, and starts swinging....what other choice do you have but to swing back?

    Who starts a fight is seldom certain. But when they end with one party shooting the other...its often called man slaughter...especially if the shooter could have avoided using the gun. Most of us here are not lawyers or with deep knowledge of FL criminal statutes and gun laws...but there is something about this situation that strikes me as very wrong.

    If I want to kill somebody, does this mean I can just pick a fight with them and then shoot them in self defense? Talk about a slippery slope....


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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:20 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidGrown man stalks kid based on racist bullshit, kid gets freaked out thinking he might be attacked/raped, grown man confronts kid, kid fights back, kid gets the upper hand due to the adult being a complete failure.


    You're already biased because you're a racist -- you judge things based on race.

    Meanwhile the rest of us are curious to understand more about what happened.


    Racist? Really?

    4814228288_2824c49d8f.jpg

    I would love for you to prove my racism.

    Because THIS (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/03/new_orleans_cop_suspended_inde.html)is a racist.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:26 AM GMT
    White4DarkerFL said
    freedomisntfree said
    White4DarkerFL said
    mocktwinkie said
    White4DarkerFL saidYeah...totally believable for the smaller, unarmed man to chase down and beat on a larger man he knows is carrying a gun.


    Why don't we wait and let the evidence speak for itself!


    The evidence is already out. Zimmerman's lame response defies logic and common sense. If somebody's head is being "bashed against the cement" it will certainly cause some type of concussion or TBI. A trip to the ER is virtually guaranteed.

    These craven defendants always have to come up with something. Just ask Casey Anthony or OJ.


    We simply don't know yet"


    I doubt we'll ever know the whole story. But if you're walking through a neighborhood and somebody approaches you, gives you crap, and starts swinging....what other choice do you have but to swing back?

    Who starts a fight is seldom certain. But when they end with one party shooting the other...its often called man slaughter...especially if the shooter could have avoided using the gun. Most of us here are not lawyers or with deep knowledge of FL criminal statutes and gun laws...but there is something about this situation that strikes me as very wrong.

    If I want to kill somebody, does this mean I can just pick a fight with them and then shoot them in self defense? Talk about a slippery slope....


    You all heard about the case here when the son was playing at the park and dad came over to find out why the neighbor was pissed at kids in the kid park and paid for that with his life? WTF was an elderly man doing in the kids park with a gun?

    Same shit, same state, same law.
  • conservativej... Posts: 2215
    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:26 AM GMT
    We think we will hear more from Mr. Benjamin Crump over the next several days. He confirmed the first suspension for marijuama. He has been contacted and shown documentaion supporting the expulsion from Michael Krop. The second incident. I think he will prefer talking about this one before the press gets copies.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:35 AM GMT
    conservativejock saidWe think we will hear more from Mr. Benjamin Crump over the next several days. He confirmed the first suspension for marijuama. He has been contacted and shown documentaion supporting the expulsion from Michael Krop. The second incident. I think he will prefer talking about this one before the press gets copies.
    TSK TSK.. dont be posting FALSE information.. thats what your buddies over at Fox do.

    report it correctly!

    An EMPTY bag that had contained marijuana TRACES!

    big difference.. In this country you are presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.

    Tsk tsk.. you just got your bullshit hand slapped!
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:36 AM GMT
    White4DarkerFL said
    freedomisntfree said
    White4DarkerFL said
    mocktwinkie said
    White4DarkerFL saidYeah...totally believable for the smaller, unarmed man to chase down and beat on a larger man he knows is carrying a gun.


    Why don't we wait and let the evidence speak for itself!


    The evidence is already out. Zimmerman's lame response defies logic and common sense. If somebody's head is being "bashed against the cement" it will certainly cause some type of concussion or TBI. A trip to the ER is virtually guaranteed.

    These craven defendants always have to come up with something. Just ask Casey Anthony or OJ.


    We simply don't know yet"


    I doubt we'll ever know the whole story. But if you're walking through a neighborhood and somebody approaches you, gives you crap, and starts swinging....what other choice do you have but to swing back?

    Who starts a fight is seldom certain. But when they end with one party shooting the other...its often called man slaughter...especially if the shooter could have avoided using the gun. Most of us here are not lawyers or with deep knowledge of FL criminal statutes and gun laws...but there is something about this situation that strikes me as very wrong.

    If I want to kill somebody, does this mean I can just pick a fight with them and then shoot them in self defense? Talk about a slippery slope....




    Again, we simply don't know yet. I'm not jumping to any conclusions yet.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:38 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidGrown man stalks kid based on racist bullshit, kid gets freaked out thinking he might be attacked/raped, grown man confronts kid, kid fights back, kid gets the upper hand due to the adult being a complete failure.


    You're already biased because you're a racist -- you judge things based on race.

    Meanwhile the rest of us are curious to understand more about what happened.


    Racist? Really?

    4814228288_2824c49d8f.jpg

    I would love for you to prove my racism.

    Because THIS (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/03/new_orleans_cop_suspended_inde.html)is a racist.


    Why? You do a perfectly good job of it yourself.
  • conservativej... Posts: 2215
    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    conservativejock saidWe think we will hear more from Mr. Benjamin Crump over the next several days. He confirmed the first suspension for marijuama. He has been contacted and shown documentaion supporting the expulsion from Michael Krop. The second incident. I think he will prefer talking about this one before the press gets copies.
    TSK TSK.. dont be posting FALSE information.. thats what your buddies over at Fox do.

    report it correctly!

    An EMPTY bag that had contained marijuana TRACES!

    big difference.. In this country you are presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.

    Tsk tsk.. you just got your bullshit hand slapped!


    Nah, not by a smart ass like you. Fuck off.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 1:49 AM GMT
    conservativejock said
    TropicalMark said
    conservativejock saidWe think we will hear more from Mr. Benjamin Crump over the next several days. He confirmed the first suspension for marijuama. He has been contacted and shown documentaion supporting the expulsion from Michael Krop. The second incident. I think he will prefer talking about this one before the press gets copies.
    TSK TSK.. dont be posting FALSE information.. thats what your buddies over at Fox do.

    report it correctly!

    An EMPTY bag that had contained marijuana TRACES!

    big difference.. In this country you are presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.

    Tsk tsk.. you just got your bullshit hand slapped!


    Nah, not by a smart ass like you. Fuck off.
    Dont whine like a child when you get reprimanded for getting caught! Its pathetic.
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    QUOTE Mar 27, 2012 2:13 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidGrown man stalks kid based on racist bullshit, kid gets freaked out thinking he might be attacked/raped, grown man confronts kid, kid fights back, kid gets the upper hand due to the adult being a complete failure.


    You're already biased because you're a racist -- you judge things based on race.

    Meanwhile the rest of us are curious to understand more about what happened.


    Racist? Really?

    4814228288_2824c49d8f.jpg

    I would love for you to prove my racism.

    Because THIS (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/03/new_orleans_cop_suspended_inde.html)is a racist.


    It's obvious that you are racially inclined in this matter. You area already taking a side when there is information we simply don't know.