Is the media demonstrating an agenda in the Trayvon Martin case?

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    Mar 27, 2012 3:50 AM GMT
    If Trayvon Martin had been shot by a black man, would this be national news? Would Sharpton be stirring things up? Hardly.

    The "mainstream" media thrives on the notion of a white person killing a black person. Zimmerman is Hispanic, but that doesn't play well for the media's agenda, so they have parroted a little used term "White Hispanic" in an obvious way to further their agenda.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html
    Martin's family and supporters have said that they believe race played a role in the shooting. Zimmerman is a white Hispanic. His family says he has been mistakenly portrayed as racist.

    Rest collected from:
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/mohammed-merah-and-george-zimmerman-a-tale-of-two-gunmen/

    NPR:
    And many have noted that, adding to the tensions around the case is the fact that Trayvon Martin is black and his killer, George Zimmerman, is a white Hispanic man.

    Reuters:
    City commissioners in Sanford, Florida, approved a motion of “no confidence” in the city’s police chief on Wednesday over the department’s handling of the killing of an unarmed black teenager by a white Hispanic neighborhood watch captain.

    New York Times:
    “You continue to see this around the country, the systematic targeting of black people. That’s what happened here and that’s what happened in Florida,” he said, referring to the case in Sanford, Fla., in which an unarmed black teenager was shot and killed almost four weeks ago by a white Hispanic crime watch volunteer.

    ITV News:
    George Zimmerman, a white hispanic, spotted the teenager while he was walking back to his father’s girlfriend’s house after having bought sweets and iced tea.

    Huffington Post:
    When a white Hispanic neighborhood-watch volunteer admitted to police that he had shot and killed an unarmed black teenager — and police accepted his assertion that he did so in self-defense — it was “taking off the scab of the wound” in Sanford, Fla.

    Reuters again:
    The 17-year-old was shot dead by a neighborhood watch volunteer, George Zimmerman, 28, on Feb. 26.  Zimmerman, a white Hispanic, has said he shot the unarmed teen in self-defense.

    Reuters yet again:
    George Zimmerman, a white Hispanic, shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin last month and claimed self-defense.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:00 AM GMT
    To be fair and balanced, here is another view from a Miami Herald writer who asserts white is not a color but privilege
    http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/26/3515056/white-isnt-color-its-privilege.html
    By Leonard Pitts Jr., The Miami Herald

    Excerpts:

    I’m here to explain why George Zimmerman is white. This seems necessary given the confusion and anger with which some readers responded to my use of that word last week in this space to describe the man who shot an unarmed black teenager named Trayvon Martin to death last month in Sanford, Fla. One person wrote: “Mr. Zimmerman was Hispanic not White plez do your homework before writing your column!!!!”

    But it is they who are wrong. There are two reasons. The short one is this:

    “Hispanic” is not a race, but an ethnicity. As the U.S. Census Bureau puts it in its 2010 Overview of Race and Hispanic Origin, “People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be any race.”
    ...
    White, then, is not simply color, but privilege — not necessarily in the sense of wealth, but rather in the sense of having one’s personhood and individuality respected, a privilege so basic I doubt it registers with many whites as privilege at all. We’re talking about the privilege of being seen, of having your worth presumed, of receiving the benefit of the doubt.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:01 AM GMT
    Nice to see you buying into the racist memes around the tragic death of this young man.

    Let's get a few things straight:

    1) The Media didn't make this racial. The murderer who called Travyon Martin a "fucking coon" before he shot him in the back made it racial.

    2) If a 17-year-old kid of any color had been shot and killed by a paranoid vigilante while walking home with a bag of Skittles and an ice tea, and the murderer had been allowed to watch away with no questions asked, I'm pretty sure that would be national news.

    3) The Republican Party's policies are interwoven throughout this case, and the reckless laws that were written by ALEC, bolstered by the NRA and signed by Jeb Bush will be laid directly at their feet.

    4) The Sanford police department either botched the case or are engaged in an active cover up or both, which has continued to give this story legs.

    5) The more that you and other right-wingers try to blame the victim, excuse George Zimmerman of stalking and murdering Trayvon Martin, or - oddly - claim the media is paying too much attention to the death of an innocent teenager, the more you isolate yourselves from the majority of Americans who find this crime an outrage.

    But please, keep talking and keep posting.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:04 AM GMT
    They guy was a vigilante and should have stood down when he was told to.

    People have clamped on to this and TURNED it in to a racial issue. (Jackson, Sharpton, Black Panthers etc....)

    Im sure if the SAME exact circumstances had happened to a white kid there wouldnt have been anything but a blurb on the local news about a shooting.

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    Mar 27, 2012 4:06 AM GMT
    JP85257 saidThey guy was a vigilante and should have stood down when he was told to.

    People have clamped on to this and TURNED it in to a racial issue.

    Im sure if the SAME exact circumstances had happened to a white kid there wouldnt have been anything but a blurb on the local news about a shooting.



    Bullshit. If a white kid carrying a pack of Skittles and an iced tea was gunned down by vigilante inside a gated community and then let go by the police with no investigation, it would be national news. In fact, that it took three weeks for this story to reach nationwide attention is probably because Travyon is black, not that other way around.

    I'm a white guy and I'm so sick of other white guys acting like we don't have a huge amount of privilege in this society.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:07 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    JP85257 saidThey guy was a vigilante and should have stood down when he was told to.

    People have clamped on to this and TURNED it in to a racial issue.

    Im sure if the SAME exact circumstances had happened to a white kid there wouldnt have been anything but a blurb on the local news about a shooting.



    Bullshit. If a white kid carrying a pack of Skittles and an iced tea was gunned down by vigilante inside a gated community and then let go by the police with no investigation, it would be national news. In fact, that it took three weeks for this story to reach nationwide attention is probably because Travyon is black, not that other way around.

    I'm a white guy and I'm so sick of other white guys acting like we don't have a huge amount of privilege in this society.

    I call BS on yours, Darling. Im not going to continue to argue. My statement was made and I stand by it.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:07 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidNice to see you buying into the racist memes around the tragic death of this young man.

    Let's get a few things straight:

    1) The Media didn't make this racial. The murderer who called Travyon Martin a "fucking coon" before he shot him in the back made it racial.
    That is not clear, but it is not relevant to the media slant.

    2) If a 17-year-old kid of any color had been shot and killed by a paranoid vigilante while walking home with a bag of Skittles and an ice tea, and the murderer had been allowed to watch away with no questions asked, I'm pretty sure that would be national news.
    There are more than a few black on black killings, including a baby that was killed when gang members fired into her house. Not national news. FAIL

    3) The Republican Party's policies are interwoven throughout this case, and the reckless laws that were written by ALEC, bolstered by the NRA and signed by Jeb Bush will be laid directly at their feet.
    Strawman, blather.

    4) The Sanford police department either botched the case or are engaged in an active cover up or both, which has continued to give this story legs.
    State of Florida took over the case.

    5) The more that you and other right-wingers try to blame the victim, excuse George Zimmerman of stalking and murdering Trayvon Martin, or - oddly - claim the media is paying too much attention to the death of an innocent teenager, the more you isolate yourselves from the majority of Americans who find this crime an outrage.
    I would like to personally tell you how dishonest and full of shit you are. I and most others find the death a tragedy. Claiming anyone questioning a media agenda is not sensitive to the killing is so typical of your crap.

    But please, keep talking and keep posting.
  • JP85257

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    Mar 27, 2012 4:11 AM GMT
    We also dont hear about the 40+ shooting resulting in 10 murders in the South Side of Chicago, but no one says anything about that.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:15 AM GMT
    JP85257 said
    Christian73 said
    JP85257 saidThey guy was a vigilante and should have stood down when he was told to.

    People have clamped on to this and TURNED it in to a racial issue.

    Im sure if the SAME exact circumstances had happened to a white kid there wouldnt have been anything but a blurb on the local news about a shooting.



    Bullshit. If a white kid carrying a pack of Skittles and an iced tea was gunned down by vigilante inside a gated community and then let go by the police with no investigation, it would be national news. In fact, that it took three weeks for this story to reach nationwide attention is probably because Travyon is black, not that other way around.

    I'm a white guy and I'm so sick of other white guys acting like we don't have a huge amount of privilege in this society.

    I call BS on yours, Darling. Im not going to continue to argue. My statement was made and I stand by it.


    If you are going to call BS give an actual argument, don't pussy out.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:20 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    JP85257 said
    Christian73 said
    JP85257 saidThey guy was a vigilante and should have stood down when he was told to.

    People have clamped on to this and TURNED it in to a racial issue.

    Im sure if the SAME exact circumstances had happened to a white kid there wouldnt have been anything but a blurb on the local news about a shooting.



    Bullshit. If a white kid carrying a pack of Skittles and an iced tea was gunned down by vigilante inside a gated community and then let go by the police with no investigation, it would be national news. In fact, that it took three weeks for this story to reach nationwide attention is probably because Travyon is black, not that other way around.

    I'm a white guy and I'm so sick of other white guys acting like we don't have a huge amount of privilege in this society.

    I call BS on yours, Darling. Im not going to continue to argue. My statement was made and I stand by it.


    If you are going to call BS give an actual argument, don't pussy out.

    I already stated it in my prior post.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:21 AM GMT
    JP85257 saidWe also dont hear about the 40+ shooting resulting in 10 murders in the South Side of Chicago, but no one says anything about that.


    Because those usually don't involve a case where the police question and then let the murder go all while trying to cover it up. They let the body sit in the morgue for days, ran no test on the shooter (but ran them on the victim), never attempted to find out who the kid was, and simply let the guy go.

    But hey keep making up bullshit.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:22 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 saidNice to see you buying into the racist memes around the tragic death of this young man.

    Let's get a few things straight:

    1) The Media didn't make this racial. The murderer who called Travyon Martin a "fucking coon" before he shot him in the back made it racial.
    That is not clear, but it is not relevant to the media slant.

    2) If a 17-year-old kid of any color had been shot and killed by a paranoid vigilante while walking home with a bag of Skittles and an ice tea, and the murderer had been allowed to watch away with no questions asked, I'm pretty sure that would be national news.
    There are more than a few black on black killings, including a baby that was killed when gang members fired into her house. Not national news. FAIL

    3) The Republican Party's policies are interwoven throughout this case, and the reckless laws that were written by ALEC, bolstered by the NRA and signed by Jeb Bush will be laid directly at their feet.
    Strawman, blather.

    4) The Sanford police department either botched the case or are engaged in an active cover up or both, which has continued to give this story legs.
    State of Florida took over the case.

    5) The more that you and other right-wingers try to blame the victim, excuse George Zimmerman of stalking and murdering Trayvon Martin, or - oddly - claim the media is paying too much attention to the death of an innocent teenager, the more you isolate yourselves from the majority of Americans who find this crime an outrage.
    I would like to personally tell you how dishonest and full of shit you are. I and most others find the death a tragedy. Claiming anyone questioning a media agenda is not sensitive to the killing is so typical of your crap.

    But please, keep talking and keep posting.


    1) It is perfectly clear. Unless you need to have your hearing checked.

    2) You're ignoring the context and focusing solely on the race of the victim, suggesting that you think his being black means we should ignore those circumstances because black guys get shot all the time. Way to show your white privilege and/or racism. You call it.

    3) Actually spot on and, in contrast to your rantings about Obama, actually true. You might try that some time.

    4) Took over the case after the public outcry, not before. Without the outcry and media attention Sanford would have brushed this under the rug. But, again, way to ignore context. We'll keep that in mind the next time you tell us all how incredibly bright you are.

    5) You're not questioning "media bias" or we would be referring back to all your threads about how biased the media is when it covers blonde women missing in the tropics, or on cruise ships, but - as we both know - you're only interested in "bias" when it makes the right-wing look bad. And, owing to your Obama Derangement Syndrome, you're perfectly willing to amplify racist tropes in order to put aside the above mentioned context.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:26 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 saidNice to see you buying into the racist memes around the tragic death of this young man.

    Let's get a few things straight:

    1) The Media didn't make this racial. The murderer who called Travyon Martin a "fucking coon" before he shot him in the back made it racial.
    That is not clear, but it is not relevant to the media slant.

    2) If a 17-year-old kid of any color had been shot and killed by a paranoid vigilante while walking home with a bag of Skittles and an ice tea, and the murderer had been allowed to watch away with no questions asked, I'm pretty sure that would be national news.
    There are more than a few black on black killings, including a baby that was killed when gang members fired into her house. Not national news. FAIL

    3) The Republican Party's policies are interwoven throughout this case, and the reckless laws that were written by ALEC, bolstered by the NRA and signed by Jeb Bush will be laid directly at their feet.
    Strawman, blather.

    4) The Sanford police department either botched the case or are engaged in an active cover up or both, which has continued to give this story legs.
    State of Florida took over the case.

    5) The more that you and other right-wingers try to blame the victim, excuse George Zimmerman of stalking and murdering Trayvon Martin, or - oddly - claim the media is paying too much attention to the death of an innocent teenager, the more you isolate yourselves from the majority of Americans who find this crime an outrage.
    I would like to personally tell you how dishonest and full of shit you are. I and most others find the death a tragedy. Claiming anyone questioning a media agenda is not sensitive to the killing is so typical of your crap.

    But please, keep talking and keep posting.


    1) It is perfectly clear. Unless you need to have your hearing checked.

    2) You're ignoring the context and focusing solely on the race of the victim, suggesting that you think his being black means we should ignore those circumstances because black guys get shot all the time. Way to show your white privilege and/or racism. You call it.

    3) Actually spot on and, in contrast to your rantings about Obama, actually true. You might try that some time.

    4) Took over the case after the public outcry, not before. Without the outcry and media attention Sanford would have brushed this under the rug. But, again, way to ignore context. We'll keep that in mind the next time you tell us all how incredibly bright you are.

    5) You're not questioning "media bias" or we would be referring back to all your threads about how biased the media is when it covers blonde women missing in the tropics, or on cruise ships, but - as we both know - you're only interested in "bias" when it makes the right-wing look bad. And, owing to your Obama Derangement Syndrome, you're perfectly willing to amplify racist tropes in order to put aside the above mentioned context.



    Fun Fact, Trayvon was dead for almost a month before this even became a story, and he was in the morgue for 3 days before his parents even knew he was dead.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:26 AM GMT
    Christian73 said5) You're not questioning "media bias" or we would be referring back to all your threads about how biased the media is when it covers blonde women missing in the tropics, or on cruise ships, but - as we both know - you're only interested in "bias" when it makes the right-wing look bad. And, owing to your Obama Derangement Syndrome, you're perfectly willing to amplify racist tropes in order to put aside the above mentioned context.

    Will use your tactic to say much of what you write is to nonsensical to bother responding. But your number 5 is also nonsensical. Simple fact is the media does not have an agenda when reporting about a blond woman missing.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:40 AM GMT
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    Christian73 said5) You're not questioning "media bias" or we would be referring back to all your threads about how biased the media is when it covers blonde women missing in the tropics, or on cruise ships, but - as we both know - you're only interested in "bias" when it makes the right-wing look bad. And, owing to your Obama Derangement Syndrome, you're perfectly willing to amplify racist tropes in order to put aside the above mentioned context.

    Will use your tactic to say much of what you write is to nonsensical to bother responding. But your number 5 is also nonsensical. Simple fact is the media does not have an agenda when reporting about a blond woman missing.


    Dude not only is it well documented and known, it has a name "Missing White Woman Syndrome".
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:42 AM GMT
    I think this article has come at a great time

    http://jezebel.com/5896408

    America has an issue with race, and it's finally getting the light it deserves.
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    Mar 27, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    My main concern with this case is that any one of us could be a Travyon Martin.

    What we had here was an untrained, self-appointed, neighborhood busybody, walking around with a loaded hand gun. That right there is enough to set me on edge.

    I say hang him. Hang him high. But more than that, time for heads to roll at the Sanford PD.

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    Mar 27, 2012 4:58 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    JP85257 saidWe also dont hear about the 40+ shooting resulting in 10 murders in the South Side of Chicago, but no one says anything about that.


    Because those usually don't involve a case where the police question and then let the murder go all while trying to cover it up. They let the body sit in the morgue for days, ran no test on the shooter (but ran them on the victim), never attempted to find out who the kid was, and simply let the guy go.

    But hey keep making up bullshit.

    You're being a jerk because Im white.
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    Mar 27, 2012 5:02 AM GMT
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/

    Former NAACP leader accuses Sharpton and Jackson of ‘exploiting’ Trayvon Martin

    Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”

    “His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.

    The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”

    Jackson, for example, recently said Martin’s death shows how “blacks are under attack” and “targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business.”

    more on site...
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    Mar 27, 2012 5:10 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidhttp://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/

    Former NAACP leader accuses Sharpton and Jackson of ‘exploiting’ Trayvon Martin

    Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”

    “His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.

    The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”

    Jackson, for example, recently said Martin’s death shows how “blacks are under attack” and “targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business.”

    more on site...


    And yet there is evidence to give their words merit.
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    Mar 27, 2012 5:12 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidhttp://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/

    Former NAACP leader accuses Sharpton and Jackson of ‘exploiting’ Trayvon Martin

    Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”

    “His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.

    The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”

    Jackson, for example, recently said Martin’s death shows how “blacks are under attack” and “targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business.”

    more on site...


    And yet there is evidence to give their words merit.

    The truth hurts especially when it doesnt fit the template.
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    Mar 27, 2012 5:22 AM GMT
    JP85257 saidThey guy was a vigilante and should have stood down when he was told to.

    People have clamped on to this and TURNED it in to a racial issue. (Jackson, Sharpton, Black Panthers etc....)

    Im sure if the SAME exact circumstances had happened to a white kid there wouldnt have been anything but a blurb on the local news about a shooting.





    If this had happened to a white kid - the cops would've thrown Zimmerman's fat ass into jail.

    But because it happened to a black kid they didn't arrest Zimmerman.
    They set him free with no charges filed.

    Meanwhile Trayvon's body spent three days in the morgue as the cops made no effort to try to discover his identity or to locate a next of kin.
    If it had been a white kid who'd been shot that would never have happened.
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    Mar 27, 2012 5:25 AM GMT
    JP85257 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    socalfitness saidhttp://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/

    Former NAACP leader accuses Sharpton and Jackson of ‘exploiting’ Trayvon Martin

    Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”

    “His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.

    The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”

    Jackson, for example, recently said Martin’s death shows how “blacks are under attack” and “targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business.”

    more on site...


    And yet there is evidence to give their words merit.

    The truth hurts especially when it doesnt fit the template.


    The "leader" socalfitness quotes was...once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP.

    Impressive!! LOL

    Is this Uncle Tom dragged out by the rightwing spin machine, every time some racist guy ends up in the news? Jackson or Sharpton are true defenders for the black community.
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    Mar 27, 2012 5:31 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidIs the media demonstrating an agenda ...
    Would it exist if it didn't?
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    Mar 27, 2012 5:31 AM GMT
    Yes, the right-wing media is demonstrating a biased agenda in their coverage of the Trayvon Martin murder.

    Take a look at this:
    http://www.newshounds.us/fox_news_uses_trayvon_martin_death_to_go_after_gun_control_advocates_03192012

    TRULY the pro-Repub propagandizers on Fix have no shame.