TSA does not like mustaches

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    Mar 28, 2012 2:39 AM GMT
    I've never had any problems with TSA at airports until I started growing out my stache.

    I was flying back to Denver after spring break, and I noticed as I was standing in line to go through security that two officers were eyeing me. They just kept staring at me and looking at each other and talking.

    Finally went through the metal detector and they told me to stand to the side. The officers that were eyeing me in line came up and said I was selected for "random" inspection. They pulled me to the side and told me they were going to pat me down.

    A guy comes over with some gloves and starts patting me down and then said he had to run his hands along the inside of my jeans belt cuff. They pat me down more and get a lil friendly, whatever.

    Well they then proceed to swab my phone and my laptop and run it through some tests and the screen turns red and big alert reads "Explosives Detected".
    I about pissed myself at that point and was just waiting for the guards to tackle me. The one who swabbed my stuff calls over more agents and then I get patted down once more and have my stuff run through the x-ray. Oh, and the lady went through my wallet just to "make sure that everything was mine".

    Like I said in the beginning, I've never had any problems and never had the random "selection" until I grew my mustache.

    ya, just needed to vent.

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    Mar 28, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
    TSA are worthless. I got pulled aside because I had a travel size of Listerine that appeared to be over the allowed limit. So they pull the bottle out of my shave kit and it clearly says "TSA Approved" all over the label. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Also, I find that female TSA agents will make men go through the cancer machine. At let lady passengers go through the regular metal detector. Fuckers.
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    Mar 28, 2012 3:31 AM GMT
    The last TSA agent squeezed and rubbed me harder than the last time I had sex.
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    Mar 28, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
    Rudy_Cant_Fail saidI've never had any problems with TSA at airports until I started growing out my stache.

    I was indeed wearing a mustache when I had my scariest encounter with the TSA, but I don't think it was a factor. Like everyone else in line I removed my shoes. And because the infamous "shoe bomber" incident had just happened, they were swabbing the shoes for explosives.

    I put my stuff through the X-ray, and passed through the metal detector OK, but on the other side 2 TSA agents grabbed me, while an Army soldier in camo ran up and pointed his M-16 at me as he locked & loaded it. icon_eek.gif

    I was literally dragged away into an inspection cubicle, where I was told I tested positive for explosives on my shoes, and they ordered me to strip naked. I began to undress, the rifle still pointed at me just inches away.

    Fortunately another TSA agent entered carrying the grey plastic tub containing my things from the X-ray machine, and holding up a small bottle said: "It's OK, he's got medical nitro."

    Seems handling even an unopened bottle of nitro glycerin pills for my heart was enough to contaminate my fingers, which in turn I passed to my shoes when I touched them.

    They let me button my shirt and released me, and I was able to make my flight. And what was ironic was that my ticket was bought by the VA, and coded as a US government purchase, as I was flying to a speciality clinic at a VA hospital.

    And on the way back home 2 weeks later I was singled out to be frisked and partially undressed again, this time I learned because I had a 1-way ticket bought just 24 hours before the flight, which fits the TSA risk profile. The reason for the late ticket was because the VA didn't know how long my hospital stay would be, so it wasn't purchased for me until I was being processed for release.

    Needless to say I fly as little as possible now. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 28, 2012 3:49 AM GMT
    I have never been checked like that and I travel often. I have beard and mustache, I always wear my Kippah when I travel and I smile lol. Just this one time I had Teffilin in my messenger bag and they asked what it was.
    I think they just pull aside some people because they might look a bit scared or worried. icon_wink.gif


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    Mar 28, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
    FOX DOCUDRAMA!



    See what a gay pat down can do!!!!

    Something must be done!

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    Mar 28, 2012 3:53 AM GMT
    The TSA is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe we're wasting money on something so inefficient as this.

    Glad I can't grow out a stache... kinda.
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    Mar 28, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    Josh1992 saidThe TSA is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe we're wasting money on something so inefficient as this.

    Glad I can't grow out a stache... kinda.


    You cant? Imma have to see some ID
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    Mar 28, 2012 4:05 AM GMT
    Fuck flying. Why the hell would I subject myself to this shit when road trips are so awesome?
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    Mar 28, 2012 4:06 AM GMT
    Claystation said
    Josh1992 saidThe TSA is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe we're wasting money on something so inefficient as this.

    Glad I can't grow out a stache... kinda.


    You cant? Imma have to see some ID


    CLAY WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT EVER AGAIN!
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    Mar 28, 2012 4:07 AM GMT
    Josh1992 said

    CLAY WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT EVER AGAIN!


    icon_neutral.gif..............maybe just this once

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    Mar 28, 2012 4:08 AM GMT
    Claystation said
    Josh1992 said

    CLAY WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT EVER AGAIN!


    icon_neutral.gif..............maybe just this once



    Fine... once icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 28, 2012 6:27 AM GMT
    Thats interesting I always notice wherever I have been flying to or from that when i wear a cap I get searched.
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    Mar 28, 2012 6:43 AM GMT
    Your moustache had nothing to do with it. The "random" searches aren't always random. They are expected to search a number of people more completely, and if any one of them got it in his brain that you looked "suspicious" for any reason, they will pick you, especially if they haven't done enough "random" searches that day/that hour. I have seen them give the special treatment to old men in wheel chairs, who can't even untie their shoes. It doesn't bother me if searched, since it is important that they not have a predictable "routine," so that the the bad guys that are always "testing" the search system, can never be sure what they will do. That said, they fail too many tests with test subjects carrying weapons. I am sure they get a big laugh over anyone coming through with a PA or other body jewelry.
  • TheBizMan

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    Mar 28, 2012 6:54 AM GMT
    Dude... Just Imagine being inspected "randomly" almost every time you fly with or w/o facial hair. It's something that I have to deal with more than I'd like to.

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    Mar 28, 2012 9:27 AM GMT
    Doesn't that make people vulnerable to racial profiling?

    I know secruity system in US is completely at a different level so a lot of us tend to avoid flying via US.

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    Mar 28, 2012 9:40 AM GMT
    I'm not sure I would call it racial profiling.

    Beards and mustaches send a subliminal signal to others that you are hiding something. Even if that's not the intent.

    When we prep students for job interviews - we tell guys that they should go clean shaven - or at least neatly trimmed. People with a beard or mustache are less likely to get the job interviewers will get non-verbal cues that you are hiding something.

    I know it sounds completely silly, but true.

    But if you think about it - when you were a kid and played around with a "disguise" - it was usually glasses and a fake mustache.

    Not that it makes what the TSA did to the OP right. I am not afraid of flying on a plane - but getting through the checkpoints makes me a nervous wreck because of stories like this.
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    Mar 28, 2012 9:56 AM GMT
    mmm yes you just experienced the Trayvon Martin hoodie theory
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    Mar 28, 2012 10:01 AM GMT
    Rudy_Cant_Fail said ...then said he had to run his hands along the inside of my jeans belt cuff. They pat me down more and get a lil friendly, whatever. ...



    Maybe they searched you, because you're cute and were eyeing them.
    I doubt they go strictly through some algorithm in their head to pick someone.
    Besides, it's a perfect job for a perv or a closeted case, because one gets a great excuse to see and touch everything.
    (I've never flown before, though. So I'm just ranting in a "random" direction without experience on the matter.)
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    Mar 28, 2012 10:33 AM GMT
    onaquest saidI'm not sure I would call it racial profiling.

    Beards and mustaches send a subliminal signal to others that you are hiding something. Even if that's not the intent.

    When we prep students for job interviews - we tell guys that they should go clean shaven - or at least neatly trimmed. People with a beard or mustache are less likely to get the job interviewers will get non-verbal cues that you are hiding something.

    I know it sounds completely silly, but true.

    But if you think about it - when you were a kid and played around with a "disguise" - it was usually glasses and a fake mustache.

    Not that it makes what the TSA did to the OP right. I am not afraid of flying on a plane - but getting through the checkpoints makes me a nervous wreck because of stories like this.


    I am not saying this incident is racial profiling. I am saying that this system of randomly picking out people could pave way for racial profiling.

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    Mar 28, 2012 11:52 AM GMT
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    Mar 28, 2012 1:33 PM GMT
    I get pulled aside pretty often. I always tend to get their attention. When I travel for vacations or work I'm always alone. Travelling for a vacation alone really gets their interest. They seems to have difficulty accepting the fact that I'm single and still want to go out and do things. I usually get a pat down and my stuff always gets swabbed.

    Going over a land crossing is hit or miss. I've had my car very thoroughly inspected before(going to the us and coming back to Canada). I've also just been waved through without them asking for a passport on my way back to Canada. The time I was waved through the border I had an Osama style beard so I don't think the facial hair is what gets me targetted.
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    Mar 28, 2012 1:59 PM GMT
    I travel all the time for work (over 100k miles a year)...

    This scene could not be more accurate.



    To be brutally honest, as a regular flier I welcome the security checks. I smirk and roll my eyes when I see people in line get all bent out of shape when they get selected for additional screening. Is the TSA Perfect? No, God no... however, would you rather NOTHING?

    All this media hype over 'personal privacy' for the back scatter or people being humiliated is really just sensationalism if you ask me.

    Sometimes the additional screening is because there was a glitch or an obstruction in the xray, so they either put the bag through again, or if its not backed up... they'll swab it down. (Happens to me regularly if I travel with a large 17" laptop instead of a netbook)

    *steps of soapbox*
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    Mar 28, 2012 2:03 PM GMT
    I used to fly more than I do now, but I usually drive.

    A couple years ago, I was flying to visit family. After arriving, I open my suitcase and start digging around looking for something and find a small pill in the corner. I know that it must have "fallen" in when they were searching it, after I checked it at the airport. Now, I always stand there until I see them search it before going to the gate.

    The next time, I was pulled aside for the pat down and they took my carry-on to search. The female opened it and started searching it before I got there. I blew my gasket. I'm sure I turned beet red and I demanded to see her supervisor. She wanted to know what the problem was, and I told her she would find out after I talk to her supervisor. She could see I was mad. She got her supervisor... a woman... and I told her that they started my bag search without me being present. I told her that was a violation of my rights and it better never happen again. I was given an apology and she asked me to please look through my bag to make certain nothing had disappeared. I'm surprised I wasn't "taken" to a private room. I have no idea if they have the right to search it without me being present, but I told her that anyway and she believed me, hence the very apologetic attitude.

    At the time my partner told me that I should have claimed a $500 camera lens had disappeared.

    I laugh about it now.
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    Mar 28, 2012 2:04 PM GMT
    I think they pulled you out because you're so cute! I never get selected icon_sad.gif