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Cobrin fisher model Sean A.K.A. Mathew dies at 22!

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  QUOTE Mar 30, 2012 5:20 PM GMT

  credo saidWhat makes me sad isn't the death of this porn star, but the fact that some of you wouldn't give a rat's ass about the death if the porn star happened to be an ugly gay man.
  
  

  
  
  ^^ This x1000
  

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  QUOTE Mar 30, 2012 5:34 PM GMT

  Okay guys we shall end this thread with a song By Paulflexes Paul McCartney.
  

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  QUOTE Mar 30, 2012 8:19 PM GMT

  Is anyone actually taking morality lessons from Kristoff? I mean, the guy is bleeding from the cunt in his face because his first personal experience with death is a guy he blew loads watching on the internet. You can't make this shit up (well, I'll bet ObviousTroll could, but he's probably chum-deep on dolphin dick right now.)

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  QUOTE Mar 30, 2012 9:24 PM GMT

  Kristoff said(something)

  
  
  my eyes just rolled

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  QUOTE Mar 30, 2012 10:00 PM GMT

  4chan saidAfter scrolling past this thread yet again I googled his name because I was curious about how he died, and I ended up on a site for necrophiliacs ewww be warned when you google him eww
  
  >He is the most beautiful dead young man the funeral home in Florida has ever received. Whoever washed him naked must have been absolutely rock hard.
  
  >His corpse is currently enjoyed and photographed by the gay necrophiles at the Fountainhead Funeral Home, Palm Bay, Florida.
  
  WTF?

  
  
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  QUOTE Mar 30, 2012 10:12 PM GMT

  Firebrand said

  4chan quoting some other /b/tard said
  >He is the most beautiful dead young man the funeral home in Florida has ever received. Whoever washed him naked must have been absolutely rock hard.
  
  >His corpse is currently enjoyed and photographed by the gay necrophiles at the Fountainhead Funeral Home, Palm Bay, Florida.
  
  WTF?

  
  
  Sup /b/?

  
  
  
  Full of win in its own disturbing way...

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• metta8 Posts: 16057
  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 12:19 AM GMT

  This is not proof of anything but it does give a possible cause:
  
  
  "POSS.CONTROL.SUBS/OTHER"
  Supervision Begin Date: 12/14/2010
  Scheduled Termination Date: 12/13/2011
  
  
  
  http://www.mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Brevard-County-FL/Matthew-Edison-Bremer/details/

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• AdamOnDemand Posts: 1
  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:19 PM GMT

  
  
  WHAT KILLED SEAN @ CORBIN FISHER?
  
  Hmmmmmm, let's review a few pertinent facts:
  
  Sean, aka Matthew, is mostly famous as being a hot, 'All American', Corbin FIsher gay porn star, who is announced by CF to have died suddenly, unexpectedly at age 22.
  A quick Google reveals a bunch of obituaries, which also reveal:
  his full name: Matthew Edison Bremer
  He was a 2 time National Champion in ATV Motocross. (Google Matthew Edison Bremer and quickly get to his obits, such as at dignitymemorial.com)
  He had two apparently living dads, and therefore was most likely a child of divorce
  The last two years of his life appear to have been very much entangled with drug use and the law -- probation supervision according to MugShots.com: "OFFENSE DATE 05/29/2010 OFFENSE: POSS.CONTROL.SUBS/OTHER SENTENCE DATE: 12/14/2010 Scheduled Termination Date: 12/13/2011"
  
  Well, let's think about commonly observed trends about people who act in porn:
  Traditionally and by most people It's not considered nice or polite generally, and is actually considered a bit transgressive (naughty, wild, illicit) by many.
  
  Porn seems always to have gone hand in hand with drugs. According to most of the research I've read, documentaries, interviews, and having met a few porn actors, drugs are pretty rife in the scene. Steroids are not uncommonly used by guys to beef up -- and boy, Sean aka Matt was beefy (and seemed to beef up significantly, as so many CF actors do). But, some of the problems with steroids typically include: roid rage, genital shrinkage. Yeah, that's a problem for porn stars. Even more commonly used drugs among male porn actors: Viagra and the like. Then, of course, all the recreational drugs. Porn actors often have lots of emotional problems many leading to them getting into porn, and a number which often result from it: struggles with self image, self worth, relationship and family problems, sexual identity issues, problems with intimacy. Drugs are often used to self medicate to avoid difficult emotions, as well as for recreation, and often just to deal with the added emotional stress of the work.
  
  Porn and prostitution are also pretty much eternally conjoined. Not too surprising: who'd be most willing to have sex on camera for money, but someone willing to have sex for money? And, even if they don't start that way, once they're porn stars, everyone assumes they have sex for money, and they start getting offers. Most of the male sex professionals I’ve met recognize that the way up in their business is porn. Often the people who are the highest paid for sex, are the biggest porn stars. Porn serves most sex-workers as advertising for their sex-business. In a business as tough and unpredictable, where work careers and 'stardom' are short lived, if they didn’t start as hustlers and get discovered that way, prostitution becomes a common fall-back for many gay porn stars. I wonder if it's most?
  
  Ohhh, and then there was the barebacking. This has grown from a trend in the business, to the new de-facto standard. And now we're back in some ways to the 80s, where porn stars are EXPECTED and really forced by the industry to have unsafe sex. The producers claim to be giving them medical check-ups and tests, but, come ON: people who are already risk takers, thrill seekers, pushing boundaries, breaking conventions, frequenly involved with drugs and who often have sex for hire, where there's still more pressure to use drugs and have unsafe sex -- it's no wonder there's a CONDOM AND SAFE SEX WAR going on in the industry again. LA County passed a law in 2011 requiring porn actors to wear condoms on set, which has caused a FUROR in the porn business, which has fallen into bad old ways and grown addicted to barebacking in the past 10 years ago. Google: "porn condom laws" and you'll find them fast.
  
  During the first decade or so of the AIDS crisis in the 80s and early 90s, there was essentially a huge generational die-off in the gay world, and especially in porn. Yup, hugely high percentages of porn actors died of AIDS during that decade, that correlated highly with unprotected receptive anal intercourse (and even higher with drug use, which clouds one's judgement and makes them more likely to engage in unsafe sex). So, it took about a decade for people to figure out what was up, and then for safer-sex guidelines to get established, and then for the gay world to require that the porn industry stop both glorifying by showing unprotected sex, but to stop killing their talent off by doing so. Those norms and industry rules got put in place by the late 80s/early 90s. It took 10s of thousands of deaths and years of struggle, but those rules went into place.
  
  And, in the last 20 years, people have become complacent, and slowly and surely unprotected sex has become increasingly tolerated, accepted, fetishized, celebrated, commodified. You wanna be in gay porn, chances are high, especially at some producers, that you're going to have to be willing to do some barebacking. And, no matter whether people get tested as often and thoroughly as producers say they do (and they DO NOT), these are young guys who are already in a wild life style, having sex for money with various people. Many HIV tests take time for the HIV to become detectible, sometimes months after exposure, and only repeated tests over months reveal that. Does that mean porn actors are not having any sex for months at a time? Are being completely safe and having sex with only ONE other completely chaste person during that time? OF COURSE NOT. So, I suspect quietly, what's been going on is increasing rates of STDS, increasing rates of HIV infection and AIDS, increasing danger for porn actors, higher need for producers to hide these truths from the young eager beavers at the front end of the tallent hopper. And, I'll betcha, higher drug use among many of the actors in order to deal with all this risk and stress (when people are lying to you about the risks to your life of the work, that's stressful).
  
  I can't help but notice in the CF Obit for Sean the idea that his family was somehow proud of his work for CF -- ?!*^# I rather doubt that. If you look at any of the documentaries which have come out about gay porn actors real lives in the last decade or so, people are typically desperate to hide this aspect of their lives from their families, or struggle to get them to somehow understand, which often doesn't happen. As a parent, even a gay parent of a gay kid, I certainly wouldn't want my kid to work in porn, because at a rate higher than most other careers, the people I've met who worked in it had big, big problems in life which seemed work related. Not everyone, but in my limited experience the majority.
  
  So, what’re WE gonna do about it?

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  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:27 PM GMT

  echoboy saidHey credo you have just about summed up the gay community ...It's all about what he looks like nothing else. Just like you said if the guy was ugly or even average or old the op would not have cared less about this guy. Whats really crazy is he does not even know the guy lol and every one agrees with him with "yes he was so hot". This "model" has done nothing to change the world but get their dicks hard. I guess thats all you need to do in the gay community to be a hero.

  
  
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• msuNdc Posts: 4066
  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:37 PM GMT

  Blackguy4you said

  echoboy saidHey credo you have just about summed up the gay community ...It's all about what he looks like nothing else. Just like you said if the guy was ugly or even average or old the op would not have cared less about this guy. Whats really crazy is he does not even know the guy lol and every one agrees with him with "yes he was so hot". This "model" has done nothing to change the world but get their dicks hard. I guess thats all you need to do in the gay community to be a hero.

  
  
  +1

  
  
  Please don't confuse the gay community with every community. Mainstream culture is the exact same way. Changing the world is not worth shit. As long as you made your imprint in your family and friends that is all that matters.

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  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:37 PM GMT

  Wisco_Coffee saidI get the feeling that people are looking down on late Matthew for being a "porn star." Is this because of the nature of the work or societies expectations? Pornography is just as important of a culture barometer as most other box office films. Some are even seen by just as many people. Tastes of a nation can be studied by the porn they watch.
  
  An actor has died. Cause of dead, doesn't matter. Matthew was a man who lived a life of his choosing, albeit, a short one. Thank you Matthew, his family (whether supporting or now), and his fans for letting him live the life he lived. May your legacy live on for time immemorial.
  
  As a fan,
  
  Thank you.

  
  
  strange paradigm you have there. methinks it is time for a paradigm shift.

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  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:41 PM GMT

  msuNtx said

  Blackguy4you said

  echoboy saidHey credo you have just about summed up the gay community ...It's all about what he looks like nothing else. Just like you said if the guy was ugly or even average or old the op would not have cared less about this guy. Whats really crazy is he does not even know the guy lol and every one agrees with him with "yes he was so hot". This "model" has done nothing to change the world but get their dicks hard. I guess thats all you need to do in the gay community to be a hero.

  
  
  +1

  
  
  Please don't confuse the gay community with every community. Mainstream culture is the exact same way. Changing the world is not worth shit. As long as you made your imprint in your family and friends that is all that matters.

  
  
  so because mainstream community lives at such shallow depths, it's ok therefore for the gay community to waddle in the slime as well, is that it?
  
  changing the world is worth shit! big shit as a matter of fact. you should endeavour to leave the world just a little better... imagine what could be accomplished if we all attempted to do so...
  
  

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  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:46 PM GMT

  Kristoff saidI'm absolutely appalled by some of these comments, you're basing you're hate purely with you're negativity. Some points I wanna highlight, I know porn is looked down upon. But millions of gay men all around the world watch it, and Corbin Fisher is pretty much at the top of the game. They'd be making good money, so they're models make good money. I know some of you say it's sick that his family would support this, but how do you know he didn't do this to support his dying mother or something along those lines? You're making an assumption based on your ignorance. Yeah, it's not the best. But maybe what he did he had good reason too, maybe not. We'll never know. But don't assume the worst. And yes, people in the military die everyday to defend this country, and so did Whitney Houston. Why was Whitney's so big? Because she was big enough to touch alot of people no matter what her bad convictions were. Same with Sean, I didn't know him from a bar of soap, and yeah I thought he was hot. But from watching his videos he seemed like a really nice guy, I don't think any amount of money can hide the fact you're an obnoxious prick.
  
  So to the negatives out there, if you have nothing nice to say. Fuck off, let others wish him a good farewell. And it shocks me some of you have to be so selfish to try and make his death mean nothing, yeah he did porn. Yeah, it doesn't look good. But it's public. I bet you've done some nasty shit before that if was made public you'd be frowned upon too. I'm really disappointed with all of this.
  
  R.I.P. Sean, sad to see you go so young.

  
  
  trying to wrap my mind how you can mention soldiers dying for their country, incredibly talented woman dying and a porn performer dying in the same sentence.
  
  porn touching people? are you using touching in the sense of uplifting of the spirit or slimply touching as in jacking off ... so you are touching your pee pee...

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  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:47 PM GMT

  Blackguy4you said

  msuNtx said

  Blackguy4you said

  echoboy saidHey credo you have just about summed up the gay community ...It's all about what he looks like nothing else. Just like you said if the guy was ugly or even average or old the op would not have cared less about this guy. Whats really crazy is he does not even know the guy lol and every one agrees with him with "yes he was so hot". This "model" has done nothing to change the world but get their dicks hard. I guess thats all you need to do in the gay community to be a hero.

  
  
  +1

  
  
  Please don't confuse the gay community with every community. Mainstream culture is the exact same way. Changing the world is not worth shit. As long as you made your imprint in your family and friends that is all that matters.

  
  
  so because mainstream community lives at such shallow depths, it's ok therefore for the gay community to waddle in the slime as well, is that it?
  
  changing the world is worth shit! big shit as a matter of fact. you should endeavour to leave the world just a little better... imagine what could be accomplished if we all attempted to do so...
  
  

  
  You didn't get my point. If people strived to be better family members and friends that would not change the world but would make lives better.

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  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:52 PM GMT

  eagermuscle said

  credo saidWhat makes me sad isn't the death of this porn star, but the fact that some of you wouldn't give a rat's ass about the death if the porn star happened to be an ugly gay man.

  
  Don't forget how upset lots of us gays get when our hot young "straight" cam stars drop dead of heart attacks.
  
  There are endless "tribute" vids to one 23 year old "fitness" and "cam" model/club kid who died of an undiagnosed heart condition aggravated, allegedly, by the supplements he was on in a sauna in Thailand.
  
  Here's one of the vids:
  
  
  
  Here's a link to literally dozens more: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zyzz+tribute&oq=zyzz+tribute&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=youtube-psuggest.3..0l10.52145l53767l0l54625l12l12l0l3l3l0l180l952l0j8l8l0.
  

  Very sad, had his whole life ahead of him & died at such a young age may he rest in peace, what a beautiful man

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• Draper Posts: 1153
  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 3:59 PM GMT

  AdamOnDemand said
  
  I can't help but notice in the CF Obit for Sean the idea that his family was somehow proud of his work for CF -- ?!*^# I rather doubt that.

  
  
  I noticed that and had the same thoughts. The majority of parents would never encourage or support their child engaging in prostitution. Most likely he told them he was modeling underwear or something tamer. What's unfortunate is if they didn't know about his porn flicks they will now. A google search of his name is going to bring them to sites they never imagined. Young people are dying every day in accidents, from suicides and overdoses. What sets this guy apart is he achieved a little bit of fame in the dark corners of the world. He was a great looking guy, but I think he could have done better for himself, modeling or possibly acting. He will be forgotten by his fans very quickly, and replaced by another young fresh face. The porn company will profit from his death. They may even have some unreleased scenes that will be in demand. His family will suffer.

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• Samm77 Posts: 636
  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 4:12 PM GMT

  Funny judgements being tossed around on this thread.

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• Torontoblue Posts: 230
  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 4:22 PM GMT

  Not my type so he's not that hot for me.
  
  But R.I.P dude. Hope there is happiness in Heaven.

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  QUOTE Mar 31, 2012 4:31 PM GMT

  I feel sad for this kid. Always sad when someone so full of life dies suddenly. Makes me appreciate everday i spend on this earth much, much more! Nobody is guaranteed a tomorrow.

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  QUOTE Apr 01, 2012 12:11 AM GMT

  catfish5 said...Nobody is guaranteed a tomorrow.

  
  
  QFT.

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• holysmokes Posts: 1
  QUOTE Feb 22, 2013 1:12 PM GMT

  credo saidWhat makes me sad isn't the death of this porn star, but the fact that some of you wouldn't give a rat's ass about the death if the porn star happened to be an ugly gay man.
  
  And, OP, you claim you didn't have to deal with death before today. Well, buddy, learn to deal with it because it's all around you. If the death of a guy you've been jerking off to sets you back ... God help you.

  
  
  i'll go out on a limb here and guess you're not a grief counsellor?

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  QUOTE Feb 22, 2013 1:17 PM GMT

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  credo saidWhat makes me sad isn't the death of this porn star, but the fact that some of you wouldn't give a rat's ass about the death if the porn star happened to be an ugly gay man.
  
  And, OP, you claim you didn't have to deal with death before today. Well, buddy, learn to deal with it because it's all around you. If the death of a guy you've been jerking off to sets you back ... God help you.

  
  
  i'll go out on a limb here and guess you're not a grief counsellor?

  
  
  An RJ member is upset that a porn "star" he has jerked off to died of a drug overdose, and you expect compassion?

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  QUOTE Feb 22, 2013 1:46 PM GMT

  credo saidWhat makes me sad isn't the death of this porn star, but the fact that some of you wouldn't give a rat's ass about the death if the porn star happened to be an ugly gay man.
  
  And, OP, you claim you didn't have to deal with death before today. Well, buddy, learn to deal with it because it's all around you. If the death of a guy you've been jerking off to sets you back ... God help you.

  
  
  Wow. I completely agree with everything you said. It seems that even people who frequently disagree can find common ground. Very nicely said.

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  QUOTE Feb 22, 2013 1:50 PM GMT

  credo said

  holysmokes said

  credo saidWhat makes me sad isn't the death of this porn star, but the fact that some of you wouldn't give a rat's ass about the death if the porn star happened to be an ugly gay man.
  
  And, OP, you claim you didn't have to deal with death before today. Well, buddy, learn to deal with it because it's all around you. If the death of a guy you've been jerking off to sets you back ... God help you.

  
  
  i'll go out on a limb here and guess you're not a grief counsellor?

  
  
  An RJ member is upset that a porn "star" he has jerked off to died of a drug overdose, and you expect compassion?

  
  
  
  
  ((drum roll))
  
  AND THE AWARD FOR FASTEST COMEBACK EVER ON A NEEDLESSLY NECRO'D THREAD (IN THE RJ VET SCHOOLING "FIRST"-POSTER CATEGORY) GOES TO...

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  QUOTE Feb 22, 2013 1:59 PM GMT

  ^
  
  This thread was revived because of the following thread, http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3036710, so it's absolutely relevant.
  
  I may be a jackass but at least when I do a handstand my stomach doesn't hit me in the face, fatass.
  
  

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