Shocking - Mitt Romney's Secret Donation To Activist Anti-Gay Hate Groups

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    Mar 30, 2012 8:53 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/03/30/mitt-romney-gay-marriage_n_1391867.html

    The real anti-gay candidate among the GOP field isn't Rick Santorum - it's Mitt Romney.

    Santorum may have SAID some ugly-ass anti-gay stuff - but Romney has put his money where his hate is.
    Into funding anti-gay groups who've been fighting against equal rights for gay Americans.

    Not only has Romney made this secret donation to NOM - Romney has also donated MILLIONS of dollars to the Mormon church.
    And the Mormon church then spent some of that money on fighting to get the anti-gay Prop 8 law in CA passed.

    Mitt Romney is our real enemy - NOT Santorum.

    Romney has just been sneakier and less in-your-face about his anti-gay agenda.
    But he's actually DONE a LOT more to try to deny equal rights to gay Americans than Santorum has.
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    Mar 30, 2012 8:57 PM GMT
    What's especially annoying is that these donations are tax deductible supposedly as "charity" . If Rick Santorum had money, you can be sure he would be sponsoring hate groups too.
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    Mar 30, 2012 9:06 PM GMT
    intentsman saidWhat's especially annoying is that these donations are tax deductible supposedly as "charity" . If Rick Santorum had money, you can be sure he would be sponsoring hate groups too.




    You're right.
    The idea that these donations to hate groups help Romney to pay less taxes on his multi-millions is outrageous.
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    Mar 30, 2012 9:21 PM GMT
    RickRick91 said
    Santorum may have SAID some ugly-ass anti-gay stuff - but Romney has put his money where his hate is.
    Into funding anti-gay groups who've been fighting against equal rights for gay Americans.


    Why is this news? Mitt Romney has made no secret whatsoever of being against Gay Marriage. He even signed a pledge to defend the DOM act. By the same token, I don't think I have ever heard him say anything "hateful" against gay people, he's just not for "Gay Marriage"...you know, kind of like that President we have icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 30, 2012 9:29 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 said
    Santorum may have SAID some ugly-ass anti-gay stuff - but Romney has put his money where his hate is.
    Into funding anti-gay groups who've been fighting against equal rights for gay Americans.


    Why is this news? Mitt Romney has made no secret whatsoever of being against Gay Marriage. He even signed a pledge to defend the DOM act. By the same token, I don't think I have ever heard him say anything "hateful" against gay people, he's just not for "Gay Marriage"...you know, kind of like that President we have icon_rolleyes.gif


    I can guarantee you that everyone on this site has someone in their own family, friends, co-workers, their plumber, electrician, the guy that plows your driveway, mows your lawn, fixes your roof, you name it, who are against gay marriage. It doesn't mean they are haters. Oftentimes, it's just their traditional views.
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    Mar 30, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
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    I can guarantee you that everyone on this site has someone in their own family, friends, co-workers, their plumber, electrician, the guy that plows your driveway, mows your lawn, fixes your roof, you name it, who are against gay marriage. It doesn't mean they are haters. Oftentimes, it's just their traditional views.



    ^^^^ Exactly ^^^^ The idea that just because someone is for the preservation of "traditional" marriage makes them an anti-gay hateful person is idiocy.
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    Mar 30, 2012 9:34 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 said
    Santorum may have SAID some ugly-ass anti-gay stuff - but Romney has put his money where his hate is.
    Into funding anti-gay groups who've been fighting against equal rights for gay Americans.


    Why is this news? Mitt Romney has made no secret whatsoever of being against Gay Marriage. He even signed a pledge to defend the DOM act. By the same token, I don't think I have ever heard him say anything "hateful" against gay people, he's just not for "Gay Marriage"...you know, kind of like that President we have icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yes, our President who has stopped defending DOMA. Our President who has signed the repeal of DODT. Our President who has ordered the state department to actively promote gay rights around the world and has threatened to cut off funding from African nations that make being gay a crime. But I guess if he doesn't explicitly say he is for gay marriage he is as good as a man who donates to ANTI GAY groups.

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    Mar 30, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
    It might be quite troubling, if he had a snowball's chance in hell of becoming President.
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    Mar 30, 2012 9:38 PM GMT
    Are you actually surprised? They're both evil, I'm going for Obama 100%. He hasn't done much but look at what he was served on a platter when first in office. Not his fault, OBAMA! icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 30, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
    Suecer said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 said
    Santorum may have SAID some ugly-ass anti-gay stuff - but Romney has put his money where his hate is.
    Into funding anti-gay groups who've been fighting against equal rights for gay Americans.


    Why is this news? Mitt Romney has made no secret whatsoever of being against Gay Marriage. He even signed a pledge to defend the DOM act. By the same token, I don't think I have ever heard him say anything "hateful" against gay people, he's just not for "Gay Marriage"...you know, kind of like that President we have icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yes, our President who has stopped defending DOMA. Our President who has signed the repeal of DODT. Our President who has ordered the state department to actively promote gay rights around the world and has threatened to cut off funding from African nations that make being gay a crime. But I guess if he doesn't explicitly say he is for gay marriage he is as good as a man who donates to ANTI GAY groups.

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    DEAD RIGHT!

    And what's truly offensive about this donation to NOM is the extreme lengths that Romney went to to try to HIDE it.

    WHY did he do that?

    So he could try to play both sides of the issue.
    So he could try to bullshit gay voters into believing that he's not really that anti-gay in his views.
    It's just YET ANOTHER example of Mitt Romney being the lying two-faced double-dealing pandering FLIP-FLOPPER that he is.

    Mitt Romney will say anything to try to get his lame ass elected.

    Mitt Romney will DO anything to try to get his lame ass elected.

    Including trying to hide his contributions to anti-gay hate groups from gay voters in a sneaky dishonest attempt to try to get us to vote for him.

    Don't be fooled by him or any of his knee-jerk gay Repub defenders here on RJ.
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    Mar 30, 2012 9:56 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidIt might be quite troubling, if he had a snowball's chance in hell of becoming President.


    Intrade has him at 37.1% http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=84326
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    Mar 30, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
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    Ex_Mil8 saidIt might be quite troubling, if he had a snowball's chance in hell of becoming President.


    Intrade has him at 37.1% http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=84326


    And Obama at 60.3%.

    Okay, a snowball's chance in Cancun.
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    Mar 30, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    intentsman said
    Ex_Mil8 saidIt might be quite troubling, if he had a snowball's chance in hell of becoming President.


    Intrade has him at 37.1% http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=84326


    And Obama at 60.3%.

    Okay, a snowball's chance in Cancun.



    Might actually be a snowball's chance in Aspen Colorado during an early frost icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 30, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
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    intentsman said
    Ex_Mil8 saidIt might be quite troubling, if he had a snowball's chance in hell of becoming President.


    Intrade has him at 37.1% http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=84326


    And Obama at 60.3%.

    Okay, a snowball's chance in Cancun.





    A 60.3% chance for Obama versus a 37.1% chance for Romney?
    LOL
    Sounds good to me!
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    Mar 30, 2012 11:02 PM GMT
    Suecer said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 said
    Santorum may have SAID some ugly-ass anti-gay stuff - but Romney has put his money where his hate is.
    Into funding anti-gay groups who've been fighting against equal rights for gay Americans.


    Why is this news? Mitt Romney has made no secret whatsoever of being against Gay Marriage. He even signed a pledge to defend the DOM act. By the same token, I don't think I have ever heard him say anything "hateful" against gay people, he's just not for "Gay Marriage"...you know, kind of like that President we have icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yes, our President who has stopped defending DOMA. Our President who has signed the repeal of DODT. Our President who has ordered the state department to actively promote gay rights around the world and has threatened to cut off funding from African nations that make being gay a crime. But I guess if he doesn't explicitly say he is for gay marriage he is as good as a man who donates to ANTI GAY groups.

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    Thank you.

    CuriousJock has difficult in understanding that Obama's position is not the same as Romney's, as he doesn't believe that DOMA is constitutional. Whereas Romney believes it is, and said he will defend it.
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    Mar 30, 2012 11:07 PM GMT
    creature said
    CuriousJock has difficult in understanding that Obama's position is not the same as Romney's, as he doesn't believe that DOMA is constitutional. Whereas Romney believes it is, and said he will defend it.



    The only thing that really matters is that someone is either FOR or they are AGAINST "Gay Marriage". Both Romney and Obama have stated they are against at. I will give you that Romney has pledged to keep "gay marriage" illegal. But, until Obama has the balls to come out and support Gay Marriage, something he has NOT done, then I put them in basically the same column.
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    Mar 30, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
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    creature said
    CuriousJock has difficult in understanding that Obama's position is not the same as Romney's, as he doesn't believe that DOMA is constitutional. Whereas Romney believes it is, and said he will defend it.



    The only thing that really matters is that someone is either FOR or they are AGAINST "Gay Marriage". Both Romney and Obama have stated they are against at. I will give you that Romney has pledged to keep "gay marriage" illegal. But, until Obama has the balls to come out and support Gay Marriage, something he has NOT done, then I put them in basically the same column.


    Just as I put you in the same column as I put other self-hating gay hypocrites.
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    Mar 30, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
    credo said

    Just as I put you in the same column as I put other self-hating gay hypocrites.



    Like I really give a rat's ass what column you put me in icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 30, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
    As a Bona Fide Homosexual, out and proud my whole life, other than 5 years at the beginning; how many of you can make that claim? One may not agree with this, but hay it is Mitts cash, and he can do with it however he wishes. I would not like him or you tell me how and where I can spend my cash.

    Maybe some people here need to asses their own hate issues before throwing stones in a glass house. Oh but you can justify your anger in your own mind so it's OK right. Thus it's also OK for Mitt to see things his way, and to act on that too.
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    Mar 30, 2012 11:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 said
    Santorum may have SAID some ugly-ass anti-gay stuff - but Romney has put his money where his hate is.
    Into funding anti-gay groups who've been fighting against equal rights for gay Americans.


    Why is this news? Mitt Romney has made no secret whatsoever of being against Gay Marriage. He even signed a pledge to defend the DOM act. By the same token, I don't think I have ever heard him say anything "hateful" against gay people, he's just not for "Gay Marriage"...you know, kind of like that President we have icon_rolleyes.gif


    The horror of Romney! Well he won't be our president anyway!
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    Mar 30, 2012 11:51 PM GMT
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    I can guarantee you that everyone on this site has someone in their own family, friends, co-workers, their plumber, electrician, the guy that plows your driveway, mows your lawn, fixes your roof, you name it, who are against gay marriage. It doesn't mean they are haters. Oftentimes, it's just their traditional views.



    ^^^^ Exactly ^^^^ The idea that just because someone is for the preservation of "traditional" marriage makes them an anti-gay hateful person is idiocy.

    Just substitute the words "for slavery" in place of "gay marriage."

    Slavery was traditional views at one time. Complete with biblical justification based on Noah's curse. .... But that doesnt make it right.

    An unjust tradition is still unjust.
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    Mar 31, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    creature said
    CuriousJock has difficult in understanding that Obama's position is not the same as Romney's, as he doesn't believe that DOMA is constitutional. Whereas Romney believes it is, and said he will defend it.



    The only thing that really matters is that someone is either FOR or they are AGAINST "Gay Marriage". Both Romney and Obama have stated they are against at. I will give you that Romney has pledged to keep "gay marriage" illegal. But, until Obama has the balls to come out and support Gay Marriage, something he has NOT done, then I put them in basically the same column.


    I'm not sure why you think that matters more than whether a President supports DOMA or not.

    I'm sure you've heard of the quote that has been mistakenly attributed to Voltaire, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Similarly, it matters more that a President whether a President supports or denounces the constitutionality of DOMA. Not that he shares the same attitude toward same-sex marriage.

    I have read where the ACLU has even offered legal assistance to white supremacists because law enforcement infringed upon their rights of free speech.

    What really matters is getting someone to support a right. Even if they do not agree with your particular stance.
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    Mar 31, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    Draper said
    I can guarantee you that everyone on this site has someone in their own family, friends, co-workers, their plumber, electrician, the guy that plows your driveway, mows your lawn, fixes your roof, you name it, who are against gay marriage. It doesn't mean they are haters. Oftentimes, it's just their traditional views.



    ^^^^ Exactly ^^^^ The idea that just because someone is for the preservation of "traditional" marriage makes them an anti-gay hateful person is idiocy.

    Just substitute the words "for slavery" in place of "gay marriage."

    Slavery was traditional views at one time. Complete with biblical justification based on Noah's curse. .... But that doesnt make it right.

    An unjust tradition is still unjust.


    +1; thank goodness Obama is going to win 400+ electoral votes and win in a landslide.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL0Qt7IF8Q4&list=FLfEaD7w3sSR_qcY-b_vcbFg&index=2&feature=plpp_video
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    Mar 31, 2012 1:07 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    The only thing that really matters is that someone is either FOR or they are AGAINST "Gay Marriage". Both Romney and Obama have stated they are against at. I will give you that Romney has pledged to keep "gay marriage" illegal. But, until Obama has the balls to come out and support Gay Marriage, something he has NOT done, then I put them in basically the same column.


    In what words did Obama say he was AGAINST marriage equality? The exact words please. Then list which of his actions reflect that position.
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    Mar 31, 2012 1:40 AM GMT
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    I can guarantee you that everyone on this site has someone in their own family, friends, co-workers, their plumber, electrician, the guy that plows your driveway, mows your lawn, fixes your roof, you name it, who are against gay marriage. It doesn't mean they are haters. Oftentimes, it's just their traditional views.



    ^^^^ Exactly ^^^^ The idea that just because someone is for the preservation of "traditional" marriage makes them an anti-gay hateful person is idiocy.


    Yes, it does make them bigoted. They are merely hidding behind their religion.

    When government got involved, marriage ceased to be strictly religious in nature.