Martin was the aggressor police sources say

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    Mar 31, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-case-20120326,0,4845076.story

    I suppose more time and investigation will be needed to know for sure, however.
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    Mar 31, 2012 9:56 PM GMT
    That article is 5 days old and much more information has since come to light making this leak completely ludicrous.
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    Mar 31, 2012 10:16 PM GMT
    One unidentified witness that contradicts everything else being said/shown? Why am I not surprised that you fall for this kind of stuff?
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    Mar 31, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThat article is 5 days old and much more information has since come to light making this leak completely ludicrous.


    DoomsDayAlpaca saidOne unidentified witness that contradicts everything else being said/shown? Why am I not surprised that you fall for this kind of stuff?



    Nothing ludicrous about it. Who knows if it is true or false? The account does not contradict everything else shown and said. There were witnesses early on who saw the red-shirted Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating on him. Whether those accounts are true or false, again, who knows...but to act as if there is absolutely no explanation other than Zimmerman hunting down Trayvon Martin like a dog and shooting him in cold blood is what is ludicrous. There are other possible scenarios. Let ALL the facts come in, then draw conclusions based on ALL the evidence -- NOT a bunch of hearsay, innuendo, twisted facts, and emotion-filled knee-jerk finger-pointing.
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    Mar 31, 2012 11:08 PM GMT
    In the "stand your ground" states, when someone has been following you down the street and you feel threatened, you can stand your ground. Since Trayvon was armed with only skittles, a can of iced tea, a phone, what did you expect him to use to defend himself? ( assuming the witness saying the guy in the red shirt was on top is credible) When did Trayvon take off his hoodie to expose his red shirt?
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    Mar 31, 2012 11:09 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Christian73 saidThat article is 5 days old and much more information has since come to light making this leak completely ludicrous.


    DoomsDayAlpaca saidOne unidentified witness that contradicts everything else being said/shown? Why am I not surprised that you fall for this kind of stuff?



    Nothing ludicrous about it. Who knows if it is true or false? The account does not contradict everything else shown and said. There were witnesses early on who saw the red-shirted Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating on him. Whether those accounts are true or false, again, who knows...but to act as if there is absolutely no explanation other than Zimmerman hunting down Trayvon Martin like a dog and shooting him in cold blood is what is ludicrous. There are other possible scenarios. Let ALL the facts come in, then draw conclusions based on ALL the evidence -- NOT a bunch of hearsay, innuendo, twisted facts, and emotion-filled knee-jerk finger-pointing.


    And there are actual witness saying the exact opposite. There are plenty of facts out there and we even have video of Zimmerman in the station looking like he just went out for beer.
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    Mar 31, 2012 11:23 PM GMT
    One of the few details not in dispute is that Zimmerman *followed* Martin - against the advice of the 911 dispatcher.
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    Mar 31, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    And there are actual witness saying the exact opposite. There are plenty of facts out there and we even have video of Zimmerman in the station looking like he just went out for beer.


    Yes, there are "plenty of facts out there". The problem is that we don't know ALL the facts. I get it...you want terribly for Zimmerman to be guilty...locked up...and they throw away the key...and he very well may be guilty of cold-blooded murder. However, let's wait and see what the investigation uncovers and comes up with. THAT is the fair thing to do.
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    Mar 31, 2012 11:31 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    And there are actual witness saying the exact opposite. There are plenty of facts out there and we even have video of Zimmerman in the station looking like he just went out for beer.


    Yes, there are "plenty of facts out there". The problem is that we don't know ALL the facts. I get it...you want terribly for Zimmerman to be guilty...locked up...and they throw away the key...and he very well may be guilty of cold-blooded murder. However, let's wait and see what the investigation uncovers and comes up with. THAT is the fair thing to do.


    What is it we should be waiting for? White supremacists(like conservativejock) to find more "damning" information that Martin deserved it?
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    Mar 31, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    TWO forensic audiologists agree: It's not Zimmerman crying for help on the 911 tape And they have dozens of reference tapes since wannabe cop neighborhood tough guy calls 911 all the time.