CA Universities: "Are you gay?"

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    Apr 01, 2012 5:02 PM GMT
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/03/are-you-gay-california-may-ask-college-students.html

    UC schools will soon ask about sexual orientation on applications, other schools to follow.

    Hmmm...it's a nice gesture, but my gut says "I don't really like this."

    I guess I value my privacy more than some token gesture to make me feel included + I don't like the idea of having this on file with big brother. In other words, I would probably not answer this question if I were applying today.

    What say you?
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    Apr 01, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
    I don't think their intentions are bad, I just think they are misguided. At least it is a voluntary question, but could not answering it be seen as the same thing as answering yes? One of the reasons they say is to get and idea of the number of glbt students going to college. I don't know how accurate the numbers would be. Many people that are gay are leery of divulging that information to a government or survey taker and that is probably why the percentage of gays in the population seems to vary so widely from one survey to the other.
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    Apr 01, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
    Since many people lie or just don't know how define themselves, it's a pointless question.
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    Apr 01, 2012 7:23 PM GMT
    I am totally against it. It's none of their business.

    You're going there to get educated not have the university poke into your personal life.

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    Apr 01, 2012 7:32 PM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidSince many people lie or just don't know how define themselves, it's a pointless question.



    Also, more people probably come out during their university years, or a similar age age for those that didn't go to college, than any other point in life so the answer when they begin might not be the same when they graduate.
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    Apr 01, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
    I once went to a doctor whose required paperwork included only two boxes to check: straight, or bisexual. That's smart and tricky. They assume gay people won't lie and check an incorrect box, but that straight and bi people will check... so if you ignore the question... you really answered it... cause they'll assume you're gay.
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    Apr 01, 2012 9:33 PM GMT
    Is it gonna help me get accepted? Diggity-down for it haha
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    Apr 01, 2012 9:48 PM GMT
    What's next?

    "If yes, are you a top or a bottom?"

    None of their business. You can't justify asking these questions. California is getting more and more fucked up.
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    Apr 01, 2012 9:48 PM GMT
    7Famark saidIs it gonna help me get accepted? Diggity-down for it haha


    lol
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    Apr 01, 2012 9:56 PM GMT
    I feel like this is a bad thing.
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    Apr 01, 2012 9:59 PM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidSince many people lie or just don't know how define themselves, it's a pointless question.
    agreed
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:08 PM GMT
    Are they planning on establishing a GLBT dorm? Do they wanna track retention numbers? (Something my university office once did, but tracking other criteria like gender, age, race, transfers vs. first-time students, etc, when I was the assistant registrar).

    If they wanna know who's gay, then check the voluntary membership of the student GLBT club/activity. This is not a good thing to ask incoming Freshman, right out of high school.
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:08 PM GMT
    A fair share of men discover their sexuality DURING college. So if they apply as straight and then discover they are gay, will they be expelled for fraud and lying on their application? icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:14 PM GMT
    How do you discover your sexuality during college? You should basically know it once you hit puberty no?
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:16 PM GMT
    S34n05 saidHow do you discover your sexuality during college? You should basically know it once you hit puberty no?

    No.
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:16 PM GMT
    tempus_tempus saidA fair share of men discover their sexuality DURING college. So if they apply as straight and then discover they are gay, will they be expelled for fraud and lying on their application? icon_eek.gif


    I don't think you can intend to lie about something you don't even know yet...
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:24 PM GMT
    students that answer yes..... may get the same "benefits" in the admissions process as other "traditionally under-represented" groups...like blacks and hispanics...

    it may be worth ur while. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:26 PM GMT
    Anything to give you an edge in the admissions process...kind of what it comes down to.
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:29 PM GMT
    I don't feel as if many 17 year-old seniors in high school will be willing to answer "yes" on the application...

    for fear that perhaps their high-school guidance counselor may see it... Maybe their parents will see it?

    Some 17 year olds dont even know if they are gay or not....or are not comfortable "labeling" themselves as such... yet..

    I think it's a bit strange, however answering yes on the application will not hurt ur chances at admissions.

    I know when I was 17, I would have definitely answered "no" because even though I knew I was gay, I wasn't sure.... I was fearful of being labeled...I wouldn't want anyone seeing my application, etc etc

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    Apr 01, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
    UC schools are gayer than christmas... So much so that if you don't conform to super militant homosexual stereotype you can feel unwelcome

    My last UC gay function in the LGBTQIAplex... I think I said

    'I am of the opinion insisting that women be spelled with a Y is overly politically correct'

    I was ostracized, bullied, frozen out.... Not that I cared but I was
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
    Is this an "April Fool's Joke"? No way should that question be asked. It's a huge invasion of privacy and something they simply do not need to know.
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:53 PM GMT
    I doubt the intention is to make this question part of the application process. As the link says,
    "It would be useful to know if we are underserving the population," said Jesse Bernal, the UC system's interim diversity coordinator. In addition, giving students the opportunity to answer such questions, he added, "sends a positive message of inclusiveness to LGBT students and creates an environment that is inclusive and welcoming of diverse populations."

    I think that can only be a good thing. I would be happy to tick the 'gay' box. If you don't want to answer, you don't have to.
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    Apr 01, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
    S34n05 saidHow do you discover your sexuality during college? You should basically know it once you hit puberty no?


    It can depend on how strong your attraction was, your social context, and how much you self-reflected. And, for some older people, the neutral terms may not have existed so that people could properly conceptualize their sexual orientation.
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    Apr 01, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
    Why is it everybody like to leave out the Bi-sexuals they make up a larger part of society than gay or straight.... Think about that...
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    Apr 02, 2012 2:58 AM GMT
    Import saidstudents that answer yes..... may get the same "benefits" in the admissions process as other "traditionally under-represented" groups...like blacks and hispanics...

    it may be worth ur while. icon_smile.gif


    What you're talking about is affirmative action, and that's against the law in California. Those numbers are for tracking only, and NOT used in any part of the admissions process.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/02/affirmative-action-ban-up_n_667763.html