MuscleMeds Carnivor Supplement - banned in Canada!

  • chill_surf

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    Apr 02, 2012 2:09 AM GMT
    I'm lactose intolerant and the plant proteins weren't working for me. I saw Carnivor beef protein power in a vitamin store in Boston and thought I was saved! But at the same store in Canada, the guy told me it was banned in Canada!! Is this stuff really bad? Has anybody had a bad experience? Should I keep taking it?
  • gwuinsf

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    Apr 02, 2012 8:35 PM GMT
    Are you certain you have issues with Whey protein? It's usually Cassein that lactose intolerant people have problems with. There's very little lactose in whey protein, relatively speaking. I'm somewhat lactose intolerant and I've never had problems with Whey.

    I've looked into Carnivor before because I eat Paleo. It gets fairly good reviews on bodybuilding.com. But I couldn't find any information on how and where they get their beef protein.

    Did you ask the guy in the store why it was banned? Maybe it's banned because you're importing a meat product?
  • Beeftastic

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    Apr 02, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    There is another brand of beef powder form Oylmpia. Don't know much about it, but I would take this!
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    Apr 02, 2012 9:30 PM GMT
    International law on the importing of meat is tricky. It may have more to do with that than product safety.
  • chill_surf

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    Apr 06, 2012 3:32 AM GMT
    gwuinsf saidAre you certain you have issues with Whey protein? It's usually Cassein that lactose intolerant people have problems with. There's very little lactose in whey protein, relatively speaking. I'm somewhat lactose intolerant and I've never had problems with Whey.

    I've looked into Carnivor before because I eat Paleo. It gets fairly good reviews on bodybuilding.com. But I couldn't find any information on how and where they get their beef protein.

    Did you ask the guy in the store why it was banned? Maybe it's banned because you're importing a meat product?



    There are different degrees of lactose intolerance. I'm a pretty severe case.

    That makes sense that the problem has to do with importing meat. The guy at the store said there could be a risk of BSE, but that seems unlikely.
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    Apr 06, 2012 3:34 AM GMT
    It tastes like shit.
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    Apr 06, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
    Have you tried whey protein isolate? I think it has the lowest amount of lactose you can find. Most whey protein supplements bother me, but isolate doesn't.
  • chill_surf

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    Apr 06, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
    ANIMATOR saidIt tastes like shit.


    Oh my god, yes! Terrible. I have to mix it in a shake to make it palatable.
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    Apr 06, 2012 3:41 AM GMT
    There are quite a few "Natural" type proteins that are lactose free you can find at local supplement shops that you can try/take. Used to work at a supp store myself and had a few customers who were also severely lactose intolerant. Even the Isolate proteins (which are usually quite high grade proteins), would not agree with them. But a few of the customers were able to use the Natural, lactose free type proteins with no problem.

    Also, Canada's FDA is insanely picky on what they allow in supplements. Which is good thing but also quite inconvenient at times. A lot of the things that they ban really aren't all that bad for you compared to a lot of other things you could be taking.

    But yea, check out natural proteins.
    Best of luck.
  • chill_surf

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    Apr 06, 2012 3:45 AM GMT
    DPrime saidThere are quite a few "Natural" type proteins that are lactose free you can find at local supplement shops that you can try/take. Used to work at a supp store myself and had a few customers who were also severely lactose intolerant. Even the Isolate proteins (which are usually quite high grade proteins), would not agree with them. But a few of the customers were able to use the Natural, lactose free type proteins with no problem.

    Also, Canada's FDA is insanely picky on what they allow in supplements. Which is good thing but also quite inconvenient at times. A lot of the things that they ban really aren't all that bad for you compared to a lot of other things you could be taking.

    But yea, check out natural proteins.
    Best of luck.


    Natural as in plant based? I've found that plant based proteins are harder to digest....I haven't gained much with them. Now that i'm on the beef stuff, I'm up 5lbs.
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    Apr 06, 2012 3:46 AM GMT
    chill_surf said
    ANIMATOR saidIt tastes like shit.


    Oh my god, yes! Terrible. I have to mix it in a shake to make it palatable.


    Yes sir. I have the chocolate flavor and it's more like coffe than actual chocolate.
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    Apr 06, 2012 4:08 AM GMT
    Just got through my first full tub of the chocolate flavor Carnivor. It was good and didn't upset my stomach the way whey started to. I am lactose intolerant, but have typically been able to tolerate whey shakes in the past, but for some reason, lately, they've been difficult.

    The Carnivor product is good, but it has Sucralose in it, which i believe, in frequent consumption, my body might be sensitive to it. I also drink Amino Energy as a pre=workout and it has Sucralose in it, too. So, I am probably dropping the Carnivor in favor of whole foods.

    They have a Blue Raspberry flavor which is completely gross if you think about Blue Raspberry flavored beef product. It's blue when it's mixed. It's like they ground up a bunch of Smurfs to make this flavor instead of cows.
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    Apr 06, 2012 4:23 AM GMT
    chill_surf said
    DPrime saidThere are quite a few "Natural" type proteins that are lactose free you can find at local supplement shops that you can try/take. Used to work at a supp store myself and had a few customers who were also severely lactose intolerant. Even the Isolate proteins (which are usually quite high grade proteins), would not agree with them. But a few of the customers were able to use the Natural, lactose free type proteins with no problem.

    Also, Canada's FDA is insanely picky on what they allow in supplements. Which is good thing but also quite inconvenient at times. A lot of the things that they ban really aren't all that bad for you compared to a lot of other things you could be taking.

    But yea, check out natural proteins.
    Best of luck.


    Natural as in plant based? I've found that plant based proteins are harder to digest....I haven't gained much with them. Now that i'm on the beef stuff, I'm up 5lbs.


    Ya, that's pretty much what I meant. Damn, well again, it is so hit and miss with people who are lactose intolerant.

    You can maybe try something like papaya enzymes to help breakdown the protein a bit more? But that's reeeeally stretching...
    Only option is to do what most Canadians do and take a weekend trip to the states and stock up on supps lol icon_smile.gif



  • chill_surf

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    Apr 06, 2012 4:25 AM GMT
    EastCoastNAZ said
    They have a Blue Raspberry flavor which is completely gross if you think about Blue Raspberry flavored beef product. It's blue when it's mixed. It's like they ground up a bunch of Smurfs to make this flavor instead of cows.



    I saw that and I the only thing I could think of was what crazy colour that must look like. Ground up smurfs sounds just about right LOL
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    Apr 06, 2012 8:49 PM GMT
    Also 6g of carbs for like 20g of protein is way too high. You guys should try ISO-100 by dymatize. Best protein ever.
  • neosyllogy

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    Apr 06, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
    Are you lactose intolerant or do you have a milk allergy.
    It's easy to find whey and casein without lactose (that's the norm in fact).
    Those proteins should only be a problem if you're allergic to milk protein.
  • chill_surf

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    Apr 06, 2012 9:05 PM GMT
    ANIMATOR saidAlso 6g of carbs for like 20g of protein is way too high. You guys should try ISO-100 by dymatize. Best protein ever.


    Thanks for the tip. I'll have to try that..it looks pretty damn good with no carbs. And no lactose
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    Apr 06, 2012 9:24 PM GMT
    chill_surf said
    ANIMATOR saidAlso 6g of carbs for like 20g of protein is way too high. You guys should try ISO-100 by dymatize. Best protein ever.


    Thanks for the tip. I'll have to try that..it looks pretty damn good with no carbs. And no lactose


    It's a little more expensive but it's worth it. Try the banana, berry, pina colada. It's very thin too so perfect for making protein shakes in the blender if you like adding pb or whatever. I mix it with greek yogurt and almond butter every morning. Love it.
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    Apr 06, 2012 10:14 PM GMT
    I believe Popeye's and others sells it... check out their website.

    http://www.supplementscanada.com/musclemeds.html
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    Apr 08, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    Is there a way to check the source of this beef protein?

    [url]http://www.21food.com/products/hydrolyzed-bovine-protein-(food-grade)-699987.html[/url]
  • ozmuscle

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    Apr 08, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    This product never made it into Australia as it didn't get quarantine clearance... (strict rules here due to the livestock industry). I'm not aware of any clinical evidence justifying it over other protein sources however.
  • gwuinsf

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    Apr 11, 2012 3:43 PM GMT
    Have you tried egg protein?