Noah's Arc

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    Jul 13, 2008 5:43 PM GMT
    So I was watching my Noah's Arc DVDs and greatly enjoying them. Then I started to wonder why was the show ever canceled. First off, it's the ONLY show that was on Logo that had gay black male characters on a regular basis. Second of all, it consistently had high ratings. But it was canceled. It showed a side of gay life that the LOGO Network no longer has: the experience of gay men of color. Because believe me, things are different from the Queer as Folk lifestyles. What do you guys feel about the implications of such a show being canceled and nothing in comparison replacing it?
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    Jul 13, 2008 5:45 PM GMT
    Oh and for those who are going to go on Logo's website and see that they are going to make it into a movie, that's not because it was something that was wanted to do by the Network, it was more of the show was canceled so suddenly that when it ended, many things were left open. The movie is simply to close off the show and answer the unanswered questions.
  • Charliez

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    Jul 14, 2008 12:02 AM GMT
    You're kidding with this - right? You actually liked this show enough to go out and buy the dvd's??? I guess there is an audience out there for 'gay' black men who do nothing but swish around all day long acting like a pack of divas, wearing drag to work and generally acting like those nosey old women at church on Sundays - the ones that wear those ridiculous hats. Well, I have an opinion on that piece of crap show and it is this: I am glad it was cancelled because this is exactly the type of negative stereotype that turns people off. I don’t associate with any GUYS who act that way and I dont WANT to either. I know all too well that there are tons of people who think that 'acting up' is what it means to be gay but there are even MORE of us who don’t. That group remind me of 16-18 year olds who are trying to define themselves but only have drag show divas as role models. possible that such a large group of guys are ALL so queeny - not a single butch in the bunch? And don't even get me started on the one mismatched couple. I watched that show a total of 3 times each time hoping it would get better but was always disappointed. Sorry dude, you get no sympathy from me on the loss of that show. And don’t hold your breath for the movie. I think they only did that to quiet the people like you who wanted to see the show. And as a black gay man I don't need that kind of negativity to further complicate things. Lets leave well enough alone. They had their run, let it be! This show did not shed a positive light on gay black men. When they do a show about regular guys who just happen to be gay and black, I’ll be be open to watching it.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 14, 2008 12:30 AM GMT
    I'm sorry but I'm going to have to agree with Charlie on this one
    I happened to catch a few episodes last year
    and I wanted to like it
    There certainly were enough hot men on the show
    but they catered to every gay stereotype there is in this world
    The writing is predictable and childish
    Just because something is "Gay" doesn't automatically make it good

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    Jul 14, 2008 12:37 AM GMT
    Logo has gotten boring and trite.
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    Jul 14, 2008 12:44 AM GMT
    Didn't but the DVDs, borrowed someone's. Lol. But anyhoo, yes, there were some definite stereotypes present, but it did do a good job at divulging into issues that are in the black community. Internalized homophobia, DL black men, AIDS/HIV in the black community. Yes, there were stereotypes present in the show, but it did definitely bring to light some issues in the black community. Like the show or not, it did poke at social issues. Yeah, I'm not into fem guys or easy guys, but the issues that they did discuss, I definitely did appreciate. Especially being that I saw nothing that in any comparable show.
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    Jul 14, 2008 12:44 AM GMT
    Luckydog76 saidLogo has gotten boring and trite.


    Too many damn lesbian shows are on there now. Lol.
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    Jul 14, 2008 12:50 AM GMT
    Noah's Arc portrays a small slice of gay life, and black gay life at that. I think viewers have to take it for what it is. I've seen both seasons on DVD and enjoyed them. They're oft-melodramatic romantic comedy. So so writing with some good acting and some bad acting. Beautiful men for the most part.

    But I think it's a mistake for any black gay viewer or any gay viewer period to go into a show like that expecting to see themselves represented. It's no different than Queer as Folk, which also portrayed a rather limited slice of gay life: white upper middle class urban club gays and well-to-do lesbians. I recognized nothing of my life in that show either, but that didn't stop me from finding it occasionally entertaining.
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    Jul 14, 2008 12:52 AM GMT
    Lesbians
    Or
    Gays
    Occasionally

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    Jul 14, 2008 12:54 AM GMT
    RunintheCity saidNoah's Arc portrays a small slice of gay life, and black gay life at that. I think viewers have to take it for what it is. I've seen both seasons on DVD and enjoyed them. They're oft-melodramatic romantic comedy. So so writing with some good acting and some bad acting. Beautiful men for the most part.

    But I think it's a mistake for any black gay viewer or any gay viewer period to go into a show like that expecting to see themselves represented. It's no different than Queer as Folk, which also portrayed a rather limited slice of gay life: white upper middle class urban club gays and well-to-do lesbians. I recognized nothing of my life in that show either, but that didn't stop me from finding it occasionally entertaining.


    Exactly. I definitely didn't see myself in ANY of the characters, but I wasn't watching the show to see myself in it. And believe me, the majority of black gay men don't act like the regular characters on Noah's Arc, but anybody could take something out of the messages that were discussed in the show.
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    Jul 14, 2008 1:01 AM GMT
    In2LectualBlkMan said majority of black gay men don't act like the regular characters on Noah's Arc, but anybody could take something out of the messages that were discussed in the show.


    Most people don't act like the people on most tv shows, including reality shows.
  • cityguy39

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    Jul 15, 2008 2:13 AM GMT
    THANK YOU GUYS!!!! I thought it was just me who thought LOGO was turning into a Lesbian channle. What the hell happend????icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 15, 2008 2:29 AM GMT
    cityguy39 saidTHANK YOU GUYS!!!! I thought it was just me who thought LOGO was turning into a Lesbian channle. What the hell happend????icon_confused.gif


    Lesbian shows are more marketable.

    Think - Straight guys will watch it (girl/girl kissing and intercourse)

    Straight women (to show they are sensitive and the overwhelming sense of strong women/girl power those shows provide)

    Gay men (because lets be honest, we like watching strong women get what they want - we see a little piece of us in them)

    Lesbians (duh - its about them!)

    I know more than one straight male that will sit and watch the L-Word right after Entourage but would not watch QAF to save his life.

    I think if someone made a gay version of Entourage that would be something worth watching - navigating the seedy underbelly of the "gay hollywood mafia", trying to get the straight roles while loving men, your group of wacky friends...hell, I would watch...!someone call SHOWTIME haha...
  • Manhood69

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    Jan 29, 2009 8:17 PM GMT
    I found NA to be quite entertaining and refreshing. Yes, there were stereotypes. But, then again, there were a variety of different characters: DL guys, masculine, fems, athletic, buff, intelligent, moralistic types, etc.

    I thought the issues were pertinent. Again, white and black tastes diverge.

    I certainly don't think it should have been cancelled. I considered it groundbreaking to have a gay black show. There is certainly a lot of down low activity going on.

    No, I don't relate to the fem characters, but they were entertaining neverthless. And I'd jump the bones of the latino hottie anyday.