Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform American Islam

  • metta

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    Apr 02, 2012 7:24 AM GMT
    Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform American Islam

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/progressive-muslims-launch-gay-friendly-women-led-mosques_n_1368460.html
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    Apr 02, 2012 7:28 AM GMT
    oh this ought to generate some lulzy fatwas.

    BTW check your link, metta - it is pointing to the gay college questionnaire @ LA Times.
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    Apr 02, 2012 7:34 AM GMT
    ^
    thanks...fixed it. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 02, 2012 9:30 AM GMT
    in b4 some fanatic goes Ke$ha on them. Still, excellent to see some progress coming from that religion.
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    Apr 02, 2012 9:35 AM GMT
    About as likely to succeed as tofu steaks in Alabama.
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    Apr 02, 2012 1:07 PM GMT
    For a posting with a condensed version of the article, see:
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2272783
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    Apr 02, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
    This is amazing.

    Thanks for posting.
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    Apr 02, 2012 2:21 PM GMT
    Seriously thought this was an April fools joke until I read the article - .. wow..
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    Apr 02, 2012 3:49 PM GMT
    nah, its no April fools joke. This is good to know there are more people like these ones I know (Who are Muslim) They think like this.
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:00 PM GMT
    AlphaTrigger saidoh this ought to generate some lulzy fatwas.

    BTW check your link, metta - it is pointing to the gay college questionnaire @ LA Times.


    Fatwas is right. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear about sorts of retaliation against them in the future.
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:05 PM GMT
    It's always the non-Xtian religions that accept women and gays first... sigh*icon_rolleyes.gif When will Xtianify learn?
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:11 PM GMT
    yeho_0shua saidIt's always the non-Xtian religions that accept women and gays first... sigh*icon_rolleyes.gif When will Xtianify learn?
    Where have you been. Various Christian groups and denominations have been promoting equality for women and gays for more than a decade, at great cost and public ridicule.
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
    still think it could be April fools.
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:30 PM GMT
    Nivek said
    yeho_0shua saidIt's always the non-Xtian religions that accept women and gays first... sigh*icon_rolleyes.gif When will Xtianify learn?
    Where have you been. Various Christian groups and denominations have been promoting equality for women and gays for more than a decade, at great cost and public ridicule.
    None gay friendly gay christian hot spots. I don't have any gay churches NEAR me. I know they exist, but so does a $million dollar$ and I don't expect to ever see that either. From experience, not being negative.
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
    Blackbeltguy saidstill think it could be April fools.
    You think this time next year they'll just bomb their mosques with all the gays and women in it?
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:43 PM GMT
    yeho_0shua saidIt's always the non-Xtian religions that accept women and gays first... sigh*icon_rolleyes.gif When will Xtianify learn?


    In a male-dominated culture (almost can use the term patriarchal), especially coming out of the Age of Aries, it was the men (with Mars notions of masculinity) who needed to get their attention off of gory war (back in the Age of Aries, you didn't have the clean kill of the bullet). We did not need women and gay men as priests and we didn't need women and gay men standing on the same status pedestal as testosteroned, competitive men who would otherwise be war-mongers for 1) land, 2) riches, 3) population, 4) politics, 5) population control, 6) ego, 5) irrational testosteroned inclinations/dominance/bullying/revenge, etc.

    Maybe after 2,000 years, civilization has reduced the Aries/Mars out of men on some scale. The expensive US-USSR arms race isn't that long ago. Iran, where there are no homosexuals (as per the claim of Ahmedinajad, at Columbia Univ. in what 2008 or 2007) needs to get on board. The New Orleans Saints have violence issues. Religion tempers violence to a certain extent. No matter how religious Texas is, they have a hunger and a passion for tackle football.

    Getting men out of jobs requiring hard violent skills as opposed to soft people skills is a good thing. Giving those jobs to women and gays leaves men at the opportunity for corporate, social, domestic, and geopolitical wilding/abuse.
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:44 PM GMT
    Nivek said
    yeho_0shua saidIt's always the non-Xtian religions that accept women and gays first... sigh*icon_rolleyes.gif When will Xtianify learn?
    Where have you been. Various Christian groups and denominations have been promoting equality for women and gays for more than a decade, at great cost and public ridicule.


    +1
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    Apr 02, 2012 4:49 PM GMT
    Okay, thanks for that.
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    Apr 02, 2012 7:20 PM GMT
    yeho_Qshua said
    Nivek said
    yeho_0shua saidIt's always the non-Xtian religions that accept women and gays first... sigh*icon_rolleyes.gif When will Xtianify learn?
    Where have you been. Various Christian groups and denominations have been promoting equality for women and gays for more than a decade, at great cost and public ridicule.
    None gay friendly gay christian hot spots. I don't have any gay churches NEAR me. I know they exist, but so does a $million dollar$ and I don't expect to ever see that either. From experience, not being negative.

    Here are a list of over 200 gay friendly churches in your state.
    http://www.gaychurch.org/Find_a_Church/united_states/us_michigan.htm

    A growing number of Christian churches have female and gay ministers as well.
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    Apr 02, 2012 7:29 PM GMT
    yeho_Qshua saidIt's always the non-Xtian religions that accept women and gays first... sigh*icon_rolleyes.gif When will Xtianify learn?


    100% guaranteed retaliation.

    Islam in itself will never accept the gay community. While the belief system is that women pray from home, one could just simply bring up the whole idea behind Mecca and how women pray equally with men around the ka'aba.

    The backlash will mostly be because of the gay community being accepted

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    Apr 02, 2012 7:30 PM GMT
    This is only a shock to people who don't pay attention.

    There are a lot of Muslims out there, who speak out against the hate, and death culture that is original Islam. They do so at their own risk, and in free countries I might add. People often call them "moderates", but that is an incorrect term- because what the terrorist do and believe in, is original Islam; nothing "extreme" about it. The "moderates", are actually reformers, who want to move the faith away from the death, hate, pederasty, and subjugation of women.

    Unfortunately though, many people don't listen to them when they speak out; or warn... Its primarily white liberals who don't pay attention to them. The Middle East would be a much safer, peaceful, and non savage place; if Islam was in the hands of the reformers. Sadly though I don't think they'll win the battle, because they get no help in the battle of ideas.
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    Apr 02, 2012 8:00 PM GMT
    It would really need to start with widespread repudiation of original (mainstream) Islam.

    If the"piety" and the "conquering of self" aspect of jihad were reconstructed to repudiate bloodshed and rejection of critical thought, the world would be a better place.
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    Apr 03, 2012 2:11 AM GMT
    GonzoTheGreat saidAbout as likely to succeed as tofu steaks in Alabama.


    LOL.. well put. And, I agree.
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    Apr 03, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
    sexuality and religion are two separate issues, one is science the other religion.
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    Apr 03, 2012 2:41 AM GMT
    Samm77 said
    yeho_Qshua saidIt's always the non-Xtian religions that accept women and gays first... sigh*icon_rolleyes.gif When will Xtianify learn?


    100% guaranteed retaliation.

    Islam in itself will never accept the gay community. While the belief system is that women pray from home, one could just simply bring up the whole idea behind Mecca and how women pray equally with men around the ka'aba.

    The backlash will mostly be because of the gay community being accepted



    Shiite and Sunni?