UK Prime Minister: I Support Gay Marriage Because I'm a Conservative

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    Apr 03, 2012 3:59 PM GMT
    http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/04/02/456394/david-cameron-i-support-gay-marriage-because-i-am-a-conservative/

    On this side of the pond, it's far too often the opposite...
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    Apr 03, 2012 4:16 PM GMT
    While it's great that the prime minister is supporting gay marriage his party is single-handedly ruining this country. The Conservatives are still mostly out of touch and are the party for big business/rich fat cats.

    Still I guess I should be thankful for small mercies........icon_neutral.gif
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    Apr 03, 2012 6:10 PM GMT
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    Apr 03, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    Agree. I think a true conservative supports keeping the Government out of the bedroom.
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    Apr 03, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    shows very clearly the difference between actual conservatives and the religious right which has hijacked american conservatism.

    (and yes, they are fucking up a lot of stuff)

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    Apr 03, 2012 7:13 PM GMT
    whateveryo saidWhile it's great that the prime minister is supporting gay marriage his party is single-handedly ruining this country. The Conservatives are still mostly out of touch and are the party for big business/rich fat cats.

    Still I guess I should be thankful for small mercies........icon_neutral.gif


    I hardly think lowering the top tax bracket by 5 percentage points from one of the highest in the developed world means he is protecting the rich...
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    Apr 03, 2012 7:21 PM GMT
    awm55 said
    whateveryo saidWhile it's great that the prime minister is supporting gay marriage his party is single-handedly ruining this country. The Conservatives are still mostly out of touch and are the party for big business/rich fat cats.

    Still I guess I should be thankful for small mercies........icon_neutral.gif


    I hardly think lowering the top tax bracket by 5 percentage points from one of the highest in the developed world means he is protecting the rich...


    They lowered corporation tax, have pussy footed around banking reforms and have done nothing to really crack down on top tier tax dodgers. All the while banging on about 'austerity' and cutting back the welfare state that the country's most vulnerable rely on. They are protecting the rich as far as I'm concerned and are not a party that represents the majority of Brits.
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    Apr 03, 2012 8:54 PM GMT
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    awm55 said
    whateveryo saidWhile it's great that the prime minister is supporting gay marriage his party is single-handedly ruining this country. The Conservatives are still mostly out of touch and are the party for big business/rich fat cats.

    Still I guess I should be thankful for small mercies........icon_neutral.gif


    I hardly think lowering the top tax bracket by 5 percentage points from one of the highest in the developed world means he is protecting the rich...


    They lowered corporation tax, have pussy footed around banking reforms and have done nothing to really crack down on top tier tax dodgers. All the while banging on about 'austerity' and cutting back the welfare state that the country's most vulnerable rely on. They are protecting the rich as far as I'm concerned and are not a party that represents the majority of Brits.


    I totally agree.
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    Apr 04, 2012 1:21 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidAgree. I think a true conservative supports keeping the Government out of the bedroom.


    Agree 100%.
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    Apr 04, 2012 1:32 PM GMT
    GonzoTheGreat saidshows very clearly the difference between actual conservatives and the religious right which has hijacked american conservatism.

    (and yes, they are fucking up a lot of stuff)



    We have another winner!

    I'm amazed every day at the depth the "people" in power sink in the US. I am disgusted by (at least IMO) their arrogant attitudes and the fact they feel entitled to act outside of and violate Constitution and Bill of Rights.
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    Apr 04, 2012 1:39 PM GMT
    joe_diesel1 said
    I'm amazed every day at the depth the "people" in power sink in the US. I am disgusted by (at least IMO) their arrogant attitudes and the fact they feel entitled to act outside of and violate Constitution and Bill of Rights.


    Dude...the constitution is not a suicide pact...pull it together...
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    Apr 04, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
    xebec75 said
    joe_diesel1 said
    I'm amazed every day at the depth the "people" in power sink in the US. I am disgusted by (at least IMO) their arrogant attitudes and the fact they feel entitled to act outside of and violate Constitution and Bill of Rights.


    Dude...the constitution is not a suicide pact...pull it together...


    To make sure I understand what you mean, please expand on your point.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 04, 2012 9:47 PM GMT
    It would be great if American conservatives thought the exact same way about gay marriage but American conservatism is being held hostage by all the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs like James Dobson, Sarah Palin, and that rollicking retard from Pennsylvania, Rick Santorum.
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    Apr 04, 2012 10:00 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIt would be great if American conservatives thought the exact same way about gay marriage but American conservatism is being held hostage by all the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs like James Dobson, Sarah Palin, and that rollicking retard from Pennsylvania, Rick Santorum.


    Rumor has it Sarah Palin supports gay marriage.

    Unfortunately, most other nanny state American "conservatives" -- religious or not -- are homophobes. This bigotry is behind the party's hostility towards freedom, including the freedom to marry.
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    Apr 04, 2012 10:00 PM GMT
    While its great that the Conservative party are making a lot of headway in LGBT rights with the work on gay marriage, lets not forget that the current Cabinet members have a pretty appalling track record on voting on LGBT rights. They're also screwing up the country in other ways. Granny tax anyone?
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    Apr 07, 2012 1:34 PM GMT
    It`s good news about gay men being allowed to marry, probably from 2015, but I think if New Labour had won the 2010 General Election something similar would have been proposed.

    Interesting that David Cameron spoke in glowing terms of Christianity/Church of England this Easter, and how it has shaped Great Britain over the centuries.

    As regards the Conservative party`s representation in the country, they only won about twenty odd percent of the electorate in 2010, and failed to secure a majority in the House of Commons.....

    The coalition as a whole only commands about thirty five percent of the country. Large areas of Britain are Conservative-free.
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    Apr 07, 2012 11:02 PM GMT
    Down here in Oz not even the left support Gay Marriage; Civil Unions is the way to go.
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    Apr 07, 2012 11:03 PM GMT
    myLoveAngel saidicon_confused.gif .
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    Down here in Oz they soon will again, and have to fix up another mess the left, and the greens have created.
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    Apr 08, 2012 1:19 PM GMT
    "They...have pussy footed around banking reforms and have done nothing to really crack down on top tier tax dodgers."

    Neither did Labour; Mandleson 'supremely relaxed' about rich people (they did nothing about cracking down either - in fact permitted the offshore exemption for stamp duty). Labour did nothing on banking reform after the crash, although they said they would, nothing.

    However, Labour were better on social matters such as civil partnerships, etc. and they scrapped s28 (legislation against 'promoting homosexuality') put forward by the Conservatives. So, David Cameron saying 'I support gay marriage because I'm a Conservative' sounds a little odd this side of the pond, too.
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    Apr 08, 2012 4:19 PM GMT
    The way it is supposed to be. Conservatives in the USA will be coming more and more in line with this thinking as the libertarian wing takes the ascendency and the social big-government religious "conservatives" start waning.
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    Apr 08, 2012 5:19 PM GMT
    Labour, whatever its faults, lifted the ban on gay people serving in the armed forces, which is why I shall always be loyal to the Labour Party. I doubt it would ever have happened under the Conservatives, many of whom were extremely hostile to the idea.

    I think it is a good thing that the Conservatives are becoming more relaxed (even supportive) of gay issues and they now have some high profile gay MPs and even ministers. There are probably no extra votes for Cameron in his support for gay marriage, so one can only conclude it is a matter of principle for him.
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    Apr 08, 2012 5:27 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThe way it is supposed to be. Conservatives in the USA will be coming more and more in line with this thinking as the libertarian wing takes the ascendency and the social big-government religious "conservatives" start waning.


    Obviously you haven't been to the South.
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    Apr 08, 2012 5:29 PM GMT
    Bullwinklemoos said
    mocktwinkie saidThe way it is supposed to be. Conservatives in the USA will be coming more and more in line with this thinking as the libertarian wing takes the ascendency and the social big-government religious "conservatives" start waning.


    Obviously you haven't been to the South.


    Yes I have. Plenty.
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    Apr 08, 2012 5:31 PM GMT
    Bullwinklemoos said
    mocktwinkie saidThe way it is supposed to be. Conservatives in the USA will be coming more and more in line with this thinking as the libertarian wing takes the ascendency and the social big-government religious "conservatives" start waning.


    Obviously you haven't been to the South.


    question is...have you?
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    Apr 08, 2012 5:36 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    Bullwinklemoos said
    mocktwinkie saidThe way it is supposed to be. Conservatives in the USA will be coming more and more in line with this thinking as the libertarian wing takes the ascendency and the social big-government religious "conservatives" start waning.


    Obviously you haven't been to the South.


    Yes I have. Plenty.
    The blood red enclave in which you visit is "not the south".. sorry