Milk or Water in Protein Shakes?

  • hhc82

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    Apr 04, 2012 12:29 AM GMT
    I am taking about 20 grams of Whey protein before working out and then another round of about 40 grams after my work out.

    It is best to take protein with non-fat milk or water? Is there any benefit either way?

    I appreciate all advice/feedback.

    Thanks!

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    Apr 04, 2012 12:46 AM GMT
    If you're taking in 40g after your workout, the milk protein would be unnecessary because you are well over the 20-30g maximization that your body will absorb post workout anyway. The benefit of doing so would be if you are trying to add calories into your diet and this is one of the times you don't mind eating energy denser food. Eating more calories will cause weight gain over time.

    Same goes for pre-workout. The 20g of whey preworkout isn't exactly functionally necessary unless you haven't eaten for a while before hand. However, if you are trying to gain weight, yes, I would recommend eating more calories--such as using your suggestion of adding milk after your workout or eating protein before your workout.

    --beginning RD supervised practice program in fall, masters candidate exercise physiology, BS nutritional sciences, BS kinesiology
  • billbos

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    Apr 04, 2012 12:48 AM GMT
    Yeah - I would like some input on that too. I am also drinking Whey shakes with just water - but it's pretty gross. I started adding some almond milk - not much - probably one part milk to 5 parts water. It's MUCH better - but i'm not so sure it's the right move.
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    Apr 04, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    I like to drink with milk if its a shake in the morning or after a big cardio workout. If its after a muscular workout, definitely just water to absorb all the proteins
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    Apr 04, 2012 12:58 AM GMT
    billbos saidYeah - I would like some input on that too. I am also drinking Whey shakes with just water - but it's pretty gross. I started adding some almond milk - not much - probably one part milk to 5 parts water. It's MUCH better - but i'm not so sure it's the right move.


    Try mixing whey with a base of chocolate milk, muscle milk, rockin refuel, chocolate soymilk, etc. Or make a smoothie with fruit, ice, whey protein in a blender. If you use frozen fruit, skip the ice.

    I wouldn't recommend almond milk as a recovery drink because it doesn't have the same profile nutritionally as the products above--it also depends on the brand because the nutrition facts for almond milk aren't standardized. Usually almond milk has more fat and very little protein--nutrients that currently aren't recognized as "post workout" classified. It should be more aptly named "almond beverage." It certainly doesn't have the protein that soymilk or cow milk has.
  • billbos

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    Apr 04, 2012 1:00 AM GMT
    Thanks guys.....I'll throw in some muscle milk...that's a good idea.
    Appreciate it.
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    Apr 04, 2012 1:47 AM GMT
    Muscle milk is a waste. youre good with plain old whey protein powder. Add it to water if youre trying to tone or keep off the weight. Milk can be so fatty. I recommend almond milk, too. It isnt pumped with hormones.
  • chi_rock

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    Apr 04, 2012 1:57 AM GMT
    Might as well get the extra protein with non-fat milk.
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    Apr 04, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
    chi_rock saidMight as well get the extra protein with non-fat milk.


    Yea, I use NFDM (nonfat dry milk) a lot. Cheap. icon_razz.gif

    Doesn't work for everyone though, e.g. lactose intolerance, milk allergies, taste dislike, etc.

    If milk is pumped with hormones, then show me data that says we are affected by it.

    Almond milk is nothing but fatty flavored vitamin/mineral water. Not milk by definition due to very little protein. It's currently the fad.

    The studies done comparing milk, soymilk, and almond milk with prostate and breast cancer cells were done in vitro/culture, not in vivo. One is quick to assume the cause of the cancer growth was the hormones in the product, not the fact that cells will grow when exposed to growth-promoting nutrients like PROTEIN and carbohydrate. Milk/soymilk have protein, almond milk has 1 gram (and a banana has 1 gram of protein too, but we don't call it milk).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19321565
    Review article (summation of many studies) about evidence for milk consumption. Overall is recommended over being a vegan.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22043817
    In vitro study that shows cow milk and soymilk promote cancer, whereas almond milk do not. One study.

    My opinion is milk is fine. Soymilk is fine. Almond milk tastes good, but is not an equal substitute for milk due to less protein and more fat.
  • metta

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    Apr 04, 2012 3:14 AM GMT
    Mine are sooo yummy........they taste like thick milk shakes.



    I keep sliced frozen bananas in plastic bags in my freezer.


    I grab a handful of frozen banana slices and put them in the blender, add a little soy milk (I don't like the taste of cows milk), and put a scoop of protein powder in, then just blend it. Easy and yummy! If it gets too thick, just add a little bit more soy milk. If you need it thicker, add more frozen bananas.
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    Apr 04, 2012 3:19 AM GMT
    I'm lactose intolerant so was using lactaid milk to mix with my shakes but still felt kinda gross/bloated so tried almond milk and coconut milk. They were fine but didn't taste any better than water so figured I'd skip the extra cost. I don't care much about fat since I eat paleo and burn fat pretty easily.

    What I'm curious about is I found flax milk at the store recently and it's pretty darn tasty. It's high in omega-3s, which is also good. Does anyone know more about it or have opinions?

    Thanks.
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    Apr 04, 2012 3:20 AM GMT
    I didnt read any of the replys but heres my opinion,
    after workout, water so it gets absorbed faster, depending on your weight 40g protein is fine, before workout you can mix with milk, don't let it be over 50-60g protein though just gonna be a waste
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    Apr 04, 2012 3:20 AM GMT
    imasrxd saidI'm lactose intolerant so was using lactaid milk to mix with my shakes but still felt kinda gross/bloated so tried almond milk and coconut milk. They were fine but didn't taste any better than water so figured I'd skip the extra cost. I don't care much about fat since I eat paleo and burn fat pretty easily.

    What I'm curious about is I found flax milk at the store recently and it's pretty darn tasty. It's high in omega-3s, which is also good. Does anyone know more about it or have opinions?

    Thanks.



    this! I'm lactose intolerant and I'll just settle with water, is just fine.
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    Apr 04, 2012 3:34 AM GMT
    Water
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    Apr 04, 2012 4:17 AM GMT
    For convenience, I use water. I'm also lactose intolerant.
    Fill bottle with just protein powder and take it with me to the gym. After workout, add water and drink right away. The protein I use dissolves easily in water.
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    Apr 04, 2012 4:19 AM GMT
    Water if it's cold enough. I think I actually like ice cold water w/ protein powder better than milk. But lukewarm/room temperature water makes it gross. I usually go with water because it's convenient.
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    Apr 04, 2012 5:38 AM GMT
    Milk! WHOLE milk! If nothing else, then just for the taste. If you REALLY want to make it taste good, add ice cream!

    Water? So eew.
  • hhc82

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    Apr 04, 2012 5:39 AM GMT
    Wow, guys. Thanks for all the comments. I wasn't expecting such a large number of responses.

    I am trying to gain (muscle) mass, but i don't want to gain fat. So i've been drinking shakes with nonfat milk. a few extra calories and it's nonfat. find option, right?

    Main take aways:

    - Water for faster absorption
    - don't go over 40g of protein (your body will just flush it out)
    - using nonfat milk is a fine option

    Thanks, again!
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    Apr 04, 2012 7:17 AM GMT
    tastes way better with milk though. but I just tend to mix with water, since it blends faster, and im lazy to grab milk from the fridge
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    Apr 04, 2012 8:11 AM GMT
    Milk is awesome. Plus it is a great way to gain weight while also keeping your bones healthy. Protein shake with water.. good luck getting that down.
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    Apr 04, 2012 9:50 AM GMT
    OJ! Yes it sounds gross, but even with chocolate protein mix and a banana it makes a great first breakfast.
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    Apr 04, 2012 10:28 AM GMT
    Try using pasteurized liquid egg whites instead of water/milk in your shakes. Makes them thick and creamy! icon_twisted.gif
  • hhc82

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    Apr 04, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
    I've been using GNC Pro Performance® AMP Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60. I love it! It's goes down great and isn't too expensive. Gotta love GNC.

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  • hhc82

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    Apr 04, 2012 10:53 PM GMT
    solaguy saidTry using pasteurized liquid egg whites instead of water/milk in your shakes. Makes them thick and creamy! icon_twisted.gif


    I sometimes put a few table spoons of eggs white in with water/milk. great idea!
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    Apr 04, 2012 11:15 PM GMT
    I don't understand how you can drink it with water....it's disgusting! Milk all the way.