Frottage and Herpes

  • sfboy987

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    Apr 04, 2012 9:04 AM GMT
    I feel like there is just no way to avoid contracting Herpes. Frottage is what I usually like to do when I hook up with guys because I know it's very very safe from getting HIV and some STD's. However, I feel like I could get Genital Herpes any minute now because even a safe sex act like frottage can't even prevent it.

    It's starting to make me a bit paranoid, and I also live in San Francisco where doctors speculate that almost 50% of gay men already have Herpes. Is it true one person can pass on Herpes even if the infected person does not show any symptoms? Any opinions?
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    Apr 04, 2012 12:03 PM GMT
    Buddy if you're so paranoid about STI's then the answer is simple: don't hook up.

    However, life is full of risks. You could fall in the shower in the morning and hit your head. You could get hit by a bus crossing the street. You could get hit by lightning. You probably WILL get cancer or have a heart attack if you're lucky enough to live long enough. And you WILL die. No way around that. Life is really just what happens to all of us before that last breath we take.

    So either stay inside and jerk off to porn on the web... or decide what risks you are comfortable taking. We all get into cars without worrying about an accident, but we know it could happen.

    And if you do get an STI at some point, most of them are treatable. Some are not curable (HIV, Herpes) but honestly lots of people out there live perfectly good and happy lives despite having Herpes or HIV, it's not the end of the world. And you gotta die at some point.... so you might want to think about living your life a bit and not worrying so much...

    Just a thought, only you can decide if it's worth it for you or not. It sounds to me like the answer is no, if you're going to worry about frottage and not sleep at night you should probably just date your hand... but it's a bit of a shame really.
  • musicdude

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    Apr 04, 2012 12:15 PM GMT
    ^^^^^^^ +1
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    Apr 04, 2012 12:26 PM GMT
    ^^^End of thread. Amen. ^^^
  • slimnmuscly

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    Apr 04, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
    Classic advice from Dan Savage back in the "Hey, Faggot" days:

    Dan SavageHerpes is, hysteria aside, a relatively minor problem in the lives of the vast majority of people who "suffer" from it.

    If you do get infected, you'll have a treatable, though not curable, sexually transmitted disease that tens of millions of other Americans "suffer" from. Most infected people have no symptoms, and most don't know they have it. For herpes "sufferers" who do experience symptoms, the inconvenience of the disease -- the occasional outbreak -- is often less stressful than the time spent coddling paranoid lovers who fear herpes out of all actual proportion to the impact it has on your life. ...

    While I'm not recommending you or anyone else intentionally contract herpes -- you should continue to take reasonable precautions -- I don't know what you're so afraid of.


    http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=260

    It still holds up. OP, he could have been talking to you.
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    Apr 04, 2012 10:27 PM GMT
    Jeeze... I didn't realize I was that good... LOL

    Thought I might even get flamed for that reply...
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    Apr 04, 2012 10:41 PM GMT
    Is it true one person can pass on Herpes even if the infected person does not show any symptoms? Any opinions?


    Yes, you can have asymptomatic viral shedding and thats thought to be the most common way people get HSV-2 (genital herpes). Personally, I'd be more afraid of HSV-1 because of the potential for it to have effects on the central nervous system.

    When you look at the actual data, its pretty hard to avoid this if you have multiple sex partners. People do things all the time they know could harm them. HSV is definitely uncomfortable and could lead to serious complications but I would take it over HIV any day.
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    Apr 04, 2012 10:44 PM GMT
    sfboy987 saidI feel like there is just no way to avoid contracting Herpes. Frottage is what I usually like to do when I hook up with guys because I know it's very very safe from getting HIV and some STD's. However, I feel like I could get Genital Herpes any minute now because even a safe sex act like frottage can't even prevent it.

    It's starting to make me a bit paranoid, and I also live in San Francisco where doctors speculate that almost 50% of gay men already have Herpes. Is it true one person can pass on Herpes even if the infected person does not show any symptoms? Any opinions?


    Meh. Just take a pill if you get anything. No big deal.
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    Apr 04, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    Maybe you and your hook ups could just jerk off together. And if you're feeling a bit daring and friskie, jerk each other off using anti-bacterial soap and condoms. lol


    Does anyone market a full body condom?
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    Apr 05, 2012 8:23 AM GMT
    The only way to avoid the "chance" of herpes is to never have any human contact ever again, or die.
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    Apr 05, 2012 8:25 AM GMT
    You can live your life in fear and never do anything sexually and you will absolutely be safe..
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    Apr 05, 2012 8:51 AM GMT
    speedobuddy saidJeeze... I didn't realize I was that good... LOL

    Thought I might even get flamed for that reply...


    No flaming, buddy. Great response. Absolutely on point.
  • hebrewman

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    Apr 05, 2012 8:58 AM GMT
    sfboy987 saidI feel like there is just no way to avoid contracting Herpes. Frottage is what I usually like to do when I hook up with guys because I know it's very very safe from getting HIV and some STD's. However, I feel like I could get Genital Herpes any minute now because even a safe sex act like frottage can't even prevent it.

    It's starting to make me a bit paranoid, and I also live in San Francisco where doctors speculate that almost 50% of gay men already have Herpes. Is it true one person can pass on Herpes even if the infected person does not show any symptoms? Any opinions?


    while i understand your concern, you cannot isolate yourself from the world. if it happens it happens. risk is part of life. if not, then wrap yourself in plastic wrap or live in a bubble. hell, i bet you catch more airborne bugs riding in the underground or a city bus.
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    Apr 05, 2012 9:00 AM GMT
    hebrewman said
    while i understand your concern, you cannot isolate yourself from the world. if it happens it happens. risk is part of life. if not, then wrap yourself in plastic wrap or live in a bubble. hell, i bet you catch more airborne bugs riding in the underground or a city bus.


    Saranwrap is cheaper than the full-out bubble icon_lol.gif
  • calibro

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    Apr 05, 2012 9:30 AM GMT
    i think it's something like 80 percent of the population has one type of herpes. a large percentage contracts simplex i as children.
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    Apr 05, 2012 10:09 AM GMT
    sfboy987 saidI feel like there is just no way to avoid contracting Herpes. Frottage is what I usually like to do when I hook up with guys because I know it's very very safe from getting HIV and some STD's. However, I feel like I could get Genital Herpes any minute now because even a safe sex act like frottage can't even prevent it.

    It's starting to make me a bit paranoid, and I also live in San Francisco where doctors speculate that almost 50% of gay men already have Herpes. Is it true one person can pass on Herpes even if the infected person does not show any symptoms? Any opinions?


    You and I are thinking alike at the moment. The thought occurred to me within the last seven days that when one has a check-up, of the many pages of results, zero in on the page/pages for sexually transmitted infections/diseases which would have a good list.

    I like to know the blood type of potential domestic partners because I follow the blood type diet. What one eats has a bearing on not being a burden on your man.

    When I was living in NYC, one day I came home with results of a 6-hour medical visit. I wish I had a loving man who cared about how detailed-oriented I was about preventative health and the lifestyle changes that would be a result of the then current status of my biology.

    Today, in Texas, if I were to go to Lifetime Fitness and get some sort of oxygen fitness test which determines if I'm eating enough, I'd want my lover to know about those results. I'd also think it wholesome for me to look at his results. It would be a family/clan expense.

    Did you see the French film, Son Frere, where one brother had to go see the other brother in the hospital. Don't miss it.
  • commoncoll

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    Apr 05, 2012 8:41 PM GMT
    ^^^Your posts are very similar to HomingDevice's. icon_neutral.gif
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    Apr 05, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
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    Apr 15, 2012 8:33 AM GMT
    WhoreMasterBlaster said^ Yo go, SpeedoBuddy! That was a kick ass contribution.


    I nominate SpeedoBuddy as the new spokesperson for HERPES!

    All those in favor, can I get a HELLZ YEAH!


    HELLZ YEAH! god I feel so american, can I say FUCK YEAH! ?
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    Apr 15, 2012 9:02 AM GMT
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