How long is this going to take?

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    Apr 05, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    So I have been going to the gym and exercising steady for 4-5 months now and I'm not seeing the results I want. I feel like I'm doing everything right; I eat extremely healthy *(ive been vegetarian for 6 years, however I eat a lot of eggs, fish, nuts and i take whey protein), I work out at least 3-4 times a week with cardio in-between days and before my workouts, I stretch religiously, and I even have researched a lot (I'm looking to major in nutritional/health science.)

    Anyway, I'm just wondering how long is it going take for me to see major results. I see so many guys with sexy, amazing bodies - which i know they have worked hard to get - and I just feel discouraged. I bust my ass in the gym, but will I ever be a stud?
    granted, I don't do free-weights because:
    A. I dont know what Im doing or how to use them, and i dont have a partner to teach me
    B. all of the straight guys seem so intimidating in the weight room.
    However, i use the machines religiously.

    Here is a progress picture:
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    Any help or insight is much appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Austin
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    Apr 05, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    Not knowing your routine and diet...have you consider getting a personal trainer to show you how to use free weights and provide a workout program? May get some input to diet/nutrition from the PT.

    That will solve problem A. Once you know and learn free weight/new programs and keep at it, it will become less intimidating.
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    Apr 05, 2012 12:36 AM GMT
    did you take a before picture? you may not realize how much youve changed when you put those two side by side.
  • jsd8675

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    Apr 05, 2012 1:19 AM GMT
    I used to be afraid of the "front of the gym" in the beginning.

    Really, nobody is checking you out, or seeing how much you are lifting, or criticizing your form.

    If they are checking you out, you better get their phone number, because he's a mo.

    Free weights work similar muscles, but with free weights, you learn to concentrate and are able to compensate for your body type.

    The machines are good, but they are built for the average person.

    For example.. the leg press machine is built for people with an arch. I have no arch, so I know I must do squats but put a 2.5 pound weight under my arches to be able to properly squat.

    Biceps and triceps machines are good, but they assume a certain position, size, and dynamics of your body. When you use free weights, braced with the different benches/seats, you will concentrate more weight on your own muscles.

    Ante up and you have Kettlebells... they are the step up from freeweights... every little eccentric motion you can do with them makes a certain part of a certain muscle explode.

    Watch the big guys, and do what they do. If you look stupid, it will only be temporary.

    Good Luck
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    Apr 05, 2012 1:34 AM GMT
    It takes years to see major results, don't let those p90x ads fool you. Most of those "transformations" are them just losing fat, not building much muscle.
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    Apr 05, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
    Augustine92 saidHow long is this going to take?

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    About 5 or 10 minutes. Then we can have dinner and do it again and last longer. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 05, 2012 2:49 AM GMT
    If I had your body I'd sit in front of a mirror and fiddle with myself. Alot.
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    Apr 05, 2012 2:56 AM GMT
    HowHotKC said
    paulflexes said
    Augustine92 saidHow long is this going to take?

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    Apr 05, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
    You'll need to be more specific about your routine, diet, and supplement regime before anyone can give you real advice.

    But, just from what you're saying, I'd guess you're on a plateau. If you only do machines religiously you're not getting enough diversity. And I doubt that's the only place you're lacking diversity.
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    Apr 05, 2012 3:04 AM GMT
    Larkin saidYou'll need to be more specific about your routine, diet, and supplement regime before anyone can give you real advice.

    But, just from what you're saying, I'd guess you're on a plateau. If you only do machines religiously you're not getting enough diversity. And I doubt that's the only place you're lacking diversity.


    You are right, I think if the OP dated more black people he would see the results he wants too.
  • FlypinHigh

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    Apr 05, 2012 3:11 AM GMT
    4-5 months is a short amount of time
    I wouldn't do cardio before lifting weights unless its a warmup. Why lift tired?
    You probably need to eat more.
    I've seen some decent shaped guys who just use machines but maybe it's time to mix it up a little. Either research online how to use free weights, or get a trainer for aboot 4-5 sessions and have him make you a routine.
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    Apr 05, 2012 3:39 AM GMT
    HowHotKC said
    HowHotKC said
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    Augustine92 saidHow long is this going to take?

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    Apr 05, 2012 3:47 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Augustine92 saidHow long is this going to take?

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    About 5 or 10 minutes. Then we can have dinner and do it again and last longer. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 05, 2012 3:49 AM GMT
    its going to take you five billion and six hundred million years to get the results you want
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    Apr 05, 2012 4:28 AM GMT
    You probably just need to take in more calories. How much weight have you gained so far? I know people who have been going to the gym for years, but have average bodies because they aren't eating enough. Don't worry about getting a six pack. Worry about gaining as much muscle as possible for now and then cut later.
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    Apr 05, 2012 5:32 AM GMT
    These responses have been helpful, and some a tad awkward for me. sorry just being honest.
    Anyway, I will make an effort to start utilizing the free-weights. I'll go at a time when the gym is less crowded to avoid intimidation and embarrassment.

    I guess me real question is, does anyone know of a routine which actually works?

    Also, I take in as many calories and vitamins as I can for a college student. I've researched recommended daily diets, however, it is simply too much for me to keep up with. I eat as healthy and as much as possible.
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    Apr 05, 2012 5:38 AM GMT
    "Also, I take in as many calories and vitamins as I can for a college student. I've researched recommended daily diets, however, it is simply too much for me to keep up with. I eat as healthy and as much as possible. "

    That's going to be a huge roadblock then. If you can afford the expensive vitamins... you can afford to cut them out and put the money into food.

    You should be eating about 3200 calories to gain.

    I went through the same thinking process as you... but diet without a caloric deficit is an irreplaceable part of gaining muscle.
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    Apr 05, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
    Augustine92 saidThese responses have been helpful, and some a tad awkward for me. sorry just being honest.
    Anyway, I will make an effort to start utilizing the free-weights. I'll go at a time when the gym is less crowded to avoid intimidation and embarrassment.

    I guess me real question is, does anyone know of a routine which actually works?

    Also, I take in as many calories and vitamins as I can for a college student. I've researched recommended daily diets, however, it is simply too much for me to keep up with. I eat as healthy and as much as possible.

    Buy some whey protein and carbo gain as meal replacements if you don't have the time to eat a lot of food. I'm convinced that any routine will work for a beginner as long as your getting a gram of protein per pound of body weight and you're getting a calorie surplus.
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    Apr 05, 2012 9:23 PM GMT
    I've been working out regularly and eating healthy for 8 years. I eat about 4000-4500 calories per day when I am on a bulk. My diet is around 40% protein, 40% carbs, and 20% fat. I carb cyle meaning that on days I do not workout I eat less carbs than on days I do. Diet is about 10% carbs when on a cut. I also set an alarm for 2AM to wake up and take an MRP. Every night. I also keep a diet log on SparkPeople.com.

    I estimate that I spend between $2400 - $3600 per year on supplements and about another $6000 - $6500 per year on food. I go to bed and get up at exactly the same time every day, get 6-8 hours of sleep every night and I avoid alcohol.

    I go to the gym 5-7 days per week and am constantly changing my routine. I some days do heavy weight with low reps up to 5 sets and some days do low weight with high reps and 3 sets. Always free weights.


    My supplements are:

    Creatine
    Beta Alanine
    White Flood
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamin
    Halotren (cycled)
    Primabol (cycled)
    Super HD (cycled)
    Amino Acids

    All of that to ONLY look the way that I do. It has to become a way of life. Not just a hobby or a New Year's resolution that you do and expect to become a stud in a few months.

    You know those Men's Health Fitness models, bodybuilders you see on stages and on websites like Bodybuilding.com? P90x models? They are all on steroids. Those ripped dudes on Seancody.com and Corbinfisher.com that we all beat off to? Steroids. Don't be fooled into thinking anything else.
  • FlypinHigh

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    Apr 05, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
    supps are a waste of money so I wouldn't worry aboot them. And honestly you don't have to eat that healthy. There's plenty of people who grow without eating healthy. And not everyone is on steroids. That's ridiculous. Just eat a caloric surplus with a good amount of protein.
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    Apr 06, 2012 12:11 AM GMT
    FlypinTraps saidsupps are a waste of money so I wouldn't worry aboot them. And honestly you don't have to eat that healthy. There's plenty of people who grow without eating healthy. And not everyone is on steroids. That's ridiculous. Just eat a caloric surplus with a good amount of protein.


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    Apr 06, 2012 12:45 AM GMT
    LAGuy1979 saidI've been working out regularly and eating healthy for 8 years. I eat about 4000-4500 calories per day when I am on a bulk. My diet is around 40% protein, 40% carbs, and 20% fat. I carb cyle meaning that on days I do not workout I eat less carbs than on days I do. Diet is about 10% carbs when on a cut. I also set an alarm for 2AM to wake up and take an MRP. Every night. I also keep a diet log on SparkPeople.com.

    I estimate that I spend between $2400 - $3600 per year on supplements and about another $6000 - $6500 per year on food. I go to bed and get up at exactly the same time every day, get 6-8 hours of sleep every night and I avoid alcohol.

    I go to the gym 5-7 days per week and am constantly changing my routine. I some days do heavy weight with low reps up to 5 sets and some days do low weight with high reps and 3 sets. Always free weights.


    My supplements are:

    Creatine
    Beta Alanine
    White Flood
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamin
    Halotren (cycled)
    Primabol (cycled)
    Super HD (cycled)
    Amino Acids

    All of that to ONLY look the way that I do. It has to become a way of life. Not just a hobby or a New Year's resolution that you do and expect to become a stud in a few months.

    You know those Men's Health Fitness models, bodybuilders you see on stages and on websites like Bodybuilding.com? P90x models? They are all on steroids. Those ripped dudes on Seancody.com and Corbinfisher.com that we all beat off to? Steroids. Don't be fooled into thinking anything else.


    All of this is absolutely true and an excellent primer for someone who wants to know what it's like to achieve a certain look.

    The steroids bit is also true...

    I know 2 guys at Sean Cody, 2 guys on the covers of Men's Fitness, and half a dozen others in various other public places getting paid to look good (in addition to just the scores of hot randoms at the local gym). All on steroids except 1, and I don't really believe him.

    You don't have to go on juice to get the look... not what I'm advocating really... But also don't beat yourself up if it takes a LONG time to get what you want. Very few people you've seen with the body you want got there without at least a little chemical help.
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    Apr 06, 2012 1:10 AM GMT
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    FlypinTraps saidsupps are a waste of money so I wouldn't worry aboot them. And honestly you don't have to eat that healthy. There's plenty of people who grow without eating healthy. And not everyone is on steroids. That's ridiculous. Just eat a caloric surplus with a good amount of protein.


    Thanks.
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    You only like this guy's post because it's what you want to hear. Ok...believe that if you want. Yes, there are people out there that can look at a dumbbell and suddenly have 20 inch arms, but most of us have to work our asses off and expend a great deal of resources to do it. Keep going like you are and we can compare in a few more months.
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    Apr 06, 2012 1:17 AM GMT
    You are probably comparing yourself to guys that have been at it HARD for YEARS - not just 4 or 5 months.

    Be grateful and happy for what you have NOW and don't think about how long anything is taking. Just stay dedicated and try to enjoy the day to day journey.

    The biggest downfall I see for most guys is not bad genetics or lack of a gym membership or even a shitty diet -- it is the impatience of wanting Herculean results in a matter of weeks and slacking off if they don't get a mag cover shoot by the time the seasons change.

    It requires diligence, dedication, extreme effort in SOME cases and patience in ALL cases.

    I happen to think the OP looks great btw!!!!!!

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    Apr 06, 2012 1:47 AM GMT
    FlypinTraps saidsupps are a waste of money so I wouldn't worry aboot them. And honestly you don't have to eat that healthy. There's plenty of people who grow without eating healthy. And not everyone is on steroids. That's ridiculous. Just eat a caloric surplus with a good amount of protein.

    But he's a vegetarian. How do you expect a vegetarian to get enough protein in his diet without supplements (whey protein)? I know that vegetarians could get their protein from eggs and beans, but how much of that could you eat?