New Poll: Santorum still leads Romney in PA, Romney can't close the deal

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    Apr 05, 2012 5:12 PM GMT
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/pennsylvania/2012_pennsylvania_republican_primaryFormer U.S. Senator Rick Santorum holds a four-point lead in his home state in Rasmussen Reports’ first look at the upcoming Pennsylvania Republican Primary.

    A new statewide telephone survey finds that 42% of Likely GOP Primary Voters support Santorum, while former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney picks up 38% of the vote. Texas Congressman Ron Paul earns seven percent (7%), and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is at six percent (6%). Two percent (2%) like some other candidate in the race, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    This Pennsylvania survey of 750 Likely Republican Primary Voters was conducted on April 4, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports.
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    Apr 05, 2012 5:14 PM GMT
    Conservative talk-show host blames Romney for weakening GOP

    http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-romney-has-weakened-the-republican-party-with-his-carpet-bombing/Assuming that Romney is going to become the nominee (because of his delegate lead), Levin wants to know how we bring the Republican party back together given that Romney is only getting 41% of the Republican vote. This low percentage is something that surprised Levin, something he didn’t know until he read Robert Stacy McCain’s piece at the American Spectator, Predictably Predictable. He also read from Roll Call’s Mitt Romney’s Weakness Is Also Strength — or Is It? in his first segment, both of those pieces you can read yourself.

    But his point is that Romney’s massively negative carpet bombing campaign has weakened the Republican party by alienating many conservatives who are angry with his tactics. McCain quotes from the Washington Post:

    "Romney’s super PAC has spent nearly $30 million on advertising, 91 percent of it on negative ads aimed at either Gingrich or Santorum. By some estimates, the Romney campaign is spending at a rate of more than $15 per vote, compared to less than $6 per vote for Santorum."

    Levin says that negative campaigning is apart of every primary, but he’s never seen it on this level. Romney has been using it to destroy his opponents instead of building himself up. This is worrisome because if Romney can’t pull the Republican Party back together, we may lose this election which would be devastating. That’s why Levin is asking how we fix this.
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    Apr 06, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
    I've looked at the numbers of Romney's spending compared to Santorum's, and if anything, Santorum is coming out as the better businessman. Santorum spends far less for his gains than Romney does. Romney's campaign efforts comes across as a corporation trying desperately hard to sell an inferior product (Malibu Stacy... with a hat).

    It's not surprising to learn that 91% of his efforts is spent on knocking down the other guys instead of selling himself. For someone who has a weak public image, I would think he would spend more than 9% to promote himself. in advertisements Whether it's promoting himself as a conservative or promoting his ideas as President.
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    Apr 06, 2012 1:02 AM GMT
    Santorum is not aheard of Romney in PA, in fact yesterdays PPP poll showed he is behind by 5 points
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    Apr 06, 2012 8:42 AM GMT
    realifedad said Santorum is not aheard of Romney in PA, in fact yesterdays PPP poll showed he is behind by 5 points


    Today's Rassmussen poll disagrees.
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    Apr 06, 2012 11:21 AM GMT
    Who cares. Santorum is not winning this nomination. He never had a chance. He needs to learn the Presidential rule book. If you want to win you have to be a moderate (conservative/liberal), instead of bringing up every social issue in the book which stirs the pot but does not equate to votes.
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    Apr 06, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
    msuNtx saidWho cares. Santorum is not winning this nomination. He never had a chance. He needs to learn the Presidential rule book. If you want to win you have to be a moderate (conservative/liberal), instead of bringing up every social issue in the book which stirs the pot but does not equate to votes.

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    Santorum isn't concerned about being moderate because he's bent toward Christian fundi Ideology that has his views as being always right and the only path for our country to receive 'god's blessing'. LOL

    Basically he's a fanatic and as such he and his like minded followers thinks its the world that's wrong not him/them, so moderation is considered giving in to 'evil' in these fanatics minds. These people are dangerous to our democracy because of their bent toward mixing religion with our government.
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    Apr 06, 2012 3:39 PM GMT
    All these polls are nothing but a joke. Every poll tells a different story, some have Romney ahead, others have Santorum ahead. Suffice to say that it will probably be really close in PA, which isn;t at all good for Santorum. He needs to just go away, it's not going to be happening for him. I just hope to GOD that Romney doesn't pick him as a V.P.
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    Apr 06, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAll these polls are nothing but a joke. Every poll tells a different story, some have Romney ahead, others have Santorum ahead. Suffice to say that it will probably be really close in PA, which isn;t at all good for Santorum. He needs to just go away, it's not going to be happening for him. I just hope to GOD that Romney doesn't pick him as a V.P.
    Im enjoying the crap out of this.. the GOP is presuring Frothymixture to bow out because he's destroying the chance of a GOP win in November. Frothymixture's response to the GOP? "So what, then I can say 'told ya so' in 2016!"

    frothy is all about frothy and could care less about this country (the ass grew up on VA housing and never served a fucking day in his life to repay any of it)

    Im hoping he stays all the way to the convention and just raises holy hell (pun intended) to help splinter the already fractured 'party'.
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    Apr 06, 2012 4:13 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ saidAll these polls are nothing but a joke. Every poll tells a different story, some have Romney ahead, others have Santorum ahead. Suffice to say that it will probably be really close in PA, which isn;t at all good for Santorum. He needs to just go away, it's not going to be happening for him. I just hope to GOD that Romney doesn't pick him as a V.P.
    Im enjoying the crap out of this.. the GOP is presuring Frothymixture to bow out because he's destroying the chance of a GOP win in November. Frothymixture's response to the GOP? "So what, then I can say 'told ya so' in 2016!"

    frothy is all about frothy and could care less about this country (the ass grew up on VA housing and never served a fucking day in his life to repay any of it)

    Im hoping he stays all the way to the convention and just raises holy hell (pun intended) to help splinter the already fractured 'party'.


    I think you're too hard on Frothy. After all, he is part of ~59% of GOPers who understands that Mitt Romneycare spells electoral doom for the Republicans, especially as women and independent voters in swing states are increasing horrified by the far right's War on Women and War on Trayvon Martin.

    Forthy knows that the inauthentic, flip-flopping, Etch-A-Sketch candidate who likes firing people has no chance of beating Obama. With a convention floor fight, Frothy might allow the GOP to pick a consensus candidate like Mike Pence or Bobby Jindal, who might actually have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

    The Republican establishment should be thanking Frothy, not knee-capping him.
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    Apr 06, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAll these polls are nothing but a joke. Every poll tells a different story, some have Romney ahead, others have Santorum ahead. Suffice to say that it will probably be really close in PA, which isn;t at all good for Santorum. He needs to just go away, it's not going to be happening for him. I just hope to GOD that Romney doesn't pick him as a V.P.
    Im enjoying the crap out of this.. the GOP is presuring Frothymixture to bow out because he's destroying the chance of a GOP win in November. Frothymixture's response to the GOP? "So what, then I can say 'told ya so' in 2016!"

    frothy is all about frothy and could care less about this country (the ass grew up on VA housing and never served a fucking day in his life to repay any of it)

    Im hoping he stays all the way to the convention and just raises holy hell (pun intended) to help splinter the already fractured 'party'.


    I think you're too hard on Frothy. After all, he is part of ~59% of GOPers who understands that Mitt Romneycare spells electoral doom for the Republicans, especially as women and independent voters in swing states are increasing horrified by the far right's War on Women and War on Trayvon Martin.

    Forthy knows that the inauthentic, flip-flopping, Etch-A-Sketch candidate who likes firing people has no chance of beating Obama. With a convention floor fight, Frothy might allow the GOP to pick a consensus candidate like Mike Pence or Bobby Jindal, who might actually have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

    The Republican establishment should be thanking Frothy, not knee-capping him.
    LOL Either way, the Republican establishment has serious issues and is a complete mess!
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    Apr 06, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
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    TroyAthlete said
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAll these polls are nothing but a joke. Every poll tells a different story, some have Romney ahead, others have Santorum ahead. Suffice to say that it will probably be really close in PA, which isn;t at all good for Santorum. He needs to just go away, it's not going to be happening for him. I just hope to GOD that Romney doesn't pick him as a V.P.
    Im enjoying the crap out of this.. the GOP is presuring Frothymixture to bow out because he's destroying the chance of a GOP win in November. Frothymixture's response to the GOP? "So what, then I can say 'told ya so' in 2016!"

    frothy is all about frothy and could care less about this country (the ass grew up on VA housing and never served a fucking day in his life to repay any of it)

    Im hoping he stays all the way to the convention and just raises holy hell (pun intended) to help splinter the already fractured 'party'.


    I think you're too hard on Frothy. After all, he is part of ~59% of GOPers who understands that Mitt Romneycare spells electoral doom for the Republicans, especially as women and independent voters in swing states are increasing horrified by the far right's War on Women and War on Trayvon Martin.

    Forthy knows that the inauthentic, flip-flopping, Etch-A-Sketch candidate who likes firing people has no chance of beating Obama. With a convention floor fight, Frothy might allow the GOP to pick a consensus candidate like Mike Pence or Bobby Jindal, who might actually have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

    The Republican establishment should be thanking Frothy, not knee-capping him.
    LOL Either way, the Republican establishment has serious issues and is a complete mess!


    Yes, the "Republican establishment" reminds me of the Germans on Hogan's Heros. I wish I could say that Mitt Romney is Colonel Klink and Frothy is Major Hochstetter...but I don't want to insult these fine characters.

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    Apr 06, 2012 4:56 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    Im hoping he stays all the way to the convention and just raises holy hell (pun intended) to help splinter the already fractured 'party'.


    I kind of doubt that would happen --- especially if he loses Pennsylvania --- but who knows how this could all play out. Regardless, I think it's becoming increasingly clear to everyone BUT Santorum that Mitt Romney will be the nominee -- and probably a formidable one --- whether or not some here don't want to believe that or not.