College town doesn't offer free STI screenings for students

  • errol88

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    Apr 07, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
    So my students have to write a proposal paper in which they propose to better something on campus or in the surrounding community.

    While I was doing some research on some issues around campus, I found out that my school doesn't offer free STI screenings for students. The town--or anywhere near us, really--offers this to students, either.

    (Students can get tested for STIs on campus, but they have to pay out the ass for them.)

    When I brought this up in class, the discussion was torn: half the class thought offering them to students isn't necessary and that it promotes promiscuity; the other half was understandably outraged.

    No matter how conservative of a school, it boggles my mind that a major university with thousands of students wouldn't offer this service. It's more a question of public health than it is a question of morality.

    What do you all think?
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    Apr 07, 2012 3:14 AM GMT
    errol88 saidSo my students have to write a proposal paper in which they propose to better something on campus or in the surrounding community.

    While I was doing some research on some issues around campus, I found out that my school doesn't offer free STI screenings for students. The town--or anywhere near us, really--offers this to students, either.

    (Students can get tested for STIs on campus, but they have to pay out the ass for them.)

    When I brought this up in class, the discussion was torn: half the class thought offering them to students isn't necessary and that it promotes promiscuity; the other half was understandably outraged.

    No matter how conservative of a school, it boggles my mind that a major university with thousands of students wouldn't offer this service. It's more a question of public health than it is a question of morality.

    What do you all think?
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  • errol88

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    Apr 07, 2012 3:26 AM GMT
    Yeah, and there are much bigger issues than this. But you would think that they would at least be concerned with their students' health.
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    Apr 07, 2012 4:49 AM GMT
    i think they should be concerned with their students education. your health is your business. the school should offer it but it shouldnt be free.
  • errol88

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    Apr 07, 2012 6:27 AM GMT
    Which is all well and good until the STI rate goes through the roof. Then the university has to worry about a lot more than just the students' health.
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    Apr 07, 2012 6:35 AM GMT
    Some people just don't get public health policy... and what good policies can prevent... sigh...
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    Apr 07, 2012 6:42 AM GMT
    you have students? . . . now that is an outrage and an abomination . .

    your stance is the standard "liberal" horseshit . . . you posit an entirely mythical humanity that supposedly has the capacity to govern itself but yet needs at every turn the supervening hand of government to save it from its own irrationality . . .
  • bmoney1

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    Apr 07, 2012 6:48 AM GMT
    What about being responsible for our own actions and stop waning everything for free! Don't be skanky and sleep around if you're not willing to pay the price of taking care of yourself. That is like being appalled that your car doesn't come with free oil changes. That, too, is a necessity for longevity of your vehicle. I think that should be someone else's responsibility though, not yours. Maybe the dealership will take care of that for you. Especially if they have thousands of customers.
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    Apr 07, 2012 7:49 AM GMT
    The health district over here offers quite a deal, and it's whatever you can afford to pay. $30 includes chlamydia/syphilis/HIV/gonorrhea screen INCLUDING treatment. Free HIV screenings as well. One of the most important parts of STD treatment is treating your partner(s) as well, otherwise it's just a never-ending cycle.

    If money prevents the early idea of getting screened/treated, the increased risks of other infections from the initial infection being left untreated also pose quite the burden on the healthcare system. Many untreated STDs have been linked to increased risk of acquiring HIV, whether it be by promiscuous sexual habits or lowering our body's natural defense against transmission. Sidenote: HIV meds are NOT cheap.

    See how that little $20 visit with $0.10 treatment (yes, azithromycin/ceftriaxone are PENNIES) turns into hundreds/thousands of dollars a month.

    Andddddddddd that's public health. Not such a bad idea.
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    Apr 07, 2012 8:18 AM GMT
    noren saidyou have students? . . . now that is an outrage and an abomination . .

    your stance is the standard "liberal" horseshit . . . you posit an entirely mythical humanity that supposedly has the capacity to govern itself but yet needs at every turn the supervening hand of government to save it from its own irrationality . . .


    Our history is littered with examples where we have provided free health care to at risk groups because we've realised that providing the health care is better (and cheaper) than providing the treatment. Heck, gay/bisexual men generally get free vaccinations for some health issues because we're deemed to be an at-risk group.

    It's better to provide free screening for at-risk groups (and young students would be that group, particularly if it's a university/college town) than the fallout that comes from pregnancies, STIs, HIV, etc.Besides, once you get them in for screening, you have them in a health promotion environment.

    So this "mythical humanity" you talk about is actually just sound public health practice.
  • bischero

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    Apr 07, 2012 8:58 AM GMT
    No, I do not think that the school should offer free STI testing. I cannot understand the rational behind making someone else pay for your own decision.

    Want to lower your risk of contracting STIs? Use protection.
    Want to really lower your risk? Don't be promiscuous.
    Want to completely remove your risk of an STI (99.9%)? Don't have sex.

    If you go out and you make the conscious decision to have sex, then you should be able to live up to your own consequences. You decided to have sex, so you can pay for your test.

    EDIT: My thoughts do not mean that I do not think that the school should not offer, however, affordable testing.
  • bischero

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    Apr 07, 2012 9:03 AM GMT
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    bischero saidNo, I do not think that the school should offer free STI testing. I cannot understand the rational behind making someone else pay for your own decision.

    Want to lower your risk of contracting STIs? Use protection.
    Want to really lower your risk? Don't be promiscuous.
    Want to completely remove your risk of an STI (99.9%)? Don't have sex.

    If you go out and you make the conscious decision to have sex, then you should be able to live up to your own consequences. You decided to have sex, so you can pay for your test.
    Rape.


    Don't take what I said to the extreme. Rape is absolutely horrific and I have a family member who was raped.

    My post was directed at people who are irresponsible and go out and have sex with the world. If you are irresponsible, there are going to be consequences at some point. Live up to your decisions and own them.
  • bischero

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    Apr 07, 2012 9:13 AM GMT
    Trollileo said
    bischero said
    Trollileo said
    bischero saidNo, I do not think that the school should offer free STI testing. I cannot understand the rational behind making someone else pay for your own decision.

    Want to lower your risk of contracting STIs? Use protection.
    Want to really lower your risk? Don't be promiscuous.
    Want to completely remove your risk of an STI (99.9%)? Don't have sex.

    If you go out and you make the conscious decision to have sex, then you should be able to live up to your own consequences. You decided to have sex, so you can pay for your test.
    Rape.
    Don't take what I said to the extreme. Rape is absolutely horrific and I have a family member who was raped.

    My post was directed at people who are irresponsible and go out and have sex with the world. If you are irresponsible, there are going to be consequences at some point. Live up to your decisions and own them.
    I wasn't taking it to the extreme. Believe it or not my hideousness was raped, too. If it happens again, I'd like to be able to get tested without having to pay next month's rent, because some sex deprived ass hole felt like getting his (or her-you never know) kicks on with me.


    That is completely horrible and I am very, very sorry that that happened to you. I hope that whoever did that to you faced some very serious consequences. icon_evil.gif Let's pray that it never happens again.
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    Apr 07, 2012 9:20 AM GMT
    Hmmm. Interesting.

    I have the same outlook on this topic as bischero.

    As for certain incidents like rape, I feel the least that could be done is a lowered payment plan or free given the circumstances but other then it's the students responsibility. When you start making stuff free you aren't really fixing the problem. You're promoting them to not be responsible for their actions. Put a price on it and they'll quickly take notice and be more responsible for their actions especially since they'll have to pay for it.
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    Apr 07, 2012 9:27 AM GMT
    Trollileo saidI wasn't taking it to the extreme. Believe it or not my hideousness was raped, too. If it happens again, I'd like to be able to get tested without having to pay next month's rent, because some sex deprived ass hole felt like getting his (or her-you never know) kicks on with me.


    That's terrible. I am so sorry that happened to you, Trolli...
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    Apr 07, 2012 12:01 PM GMT
    Most likely your town health department does offer it for free. That's a pretty standard national practice.

    The idea that it promotes promiscuity is ridiculous. It's disease prevention and treatment.
  • muscletruk

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    Apr 07, 2012 12:29 PM GMT
    Cakelion saidi think they should be concerned with their students education. your health is your business. the school should offer it but it shouldnt be free.

    +1
    part of being an adult is taking responsibility for your self and your health
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    Apr 07, 2012 12:51 PM GMT
    the county health dept. doesn't offer free/low cost STI testing? even AZ counties do that.
  • commoncoll

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    Apr 07, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    I think very few schools offer free STI screenings, nor should they. What exactly is the cost at your school? Your county clinic and some other community clinics will offer some STI screenings for free.
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    Apr 07, 2012 5:03 PM GMT
    I didnt read most of this thread. All I can say is:

    College students having sex!? Stop the presses!

    Yes, a college (or any self respecting one) should offer this to students for free. The school I went to was in San Francisco, the heart of the AIDS outbreak, and they didnt offer free STI testings or offer free contraceptives (stupid religious school). Students will be doing this regardless of if the service is there but by testing for STIs they can hope to reduce infection rates.
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    Apr 07, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
    From a business standpoint, it makes good sense to offer STI screenings.

    Diseased students don't study well when they are in very sick, and might not be able to compete very well on the job market so they can make payments on their student loan debt.

    And dead students cannot pay their student loans back, nor pay for their outrageous tuitions and fees and for books.

    The whole collegiate business model can suffer from this.

    OTOH, healthy students who are getting regular dick (or pussy) may be more well-adjusted and perform better.
  • commoncoll

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    Apr 07, 2012 5:19 PM GMT
    AlphaTrigger saidFrom a business standpoint, it makes good sense to offer STI screenings.

    His school does offer STI screenings and we don't know at what cost. The question is on whether they should offer free STI screenings. I don't think tuition money from students should be used to pay for STI screenings. The burden of responsibility can't fall on the government or the school alone.

    College students are adults who, unless living under a rock for the past decade, should recognize the need for safe practices. If they can't afford it, like the rest of the populace, they can go to community/county clinics.

    I think the rest of your post was in jest so I won't comment.
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    Apr 07, 2012 5:21 PM GMT
    commoncoll said
    AlphaTrigger saidFrom a business standpoint, it makes good sense to offer STI screenings.

    His school does offer STI screenings. The question is on whether they should offer free STI screenings. I don't think tuition money from students should be used to pay for STI screenings. The burden of responsibility can't fall on the government or the school alone.

    College students are adults who, unless living under a rock for the past decade, should recognize the need for safe practices. If they can't afford it, like the rest of the populace, they can go to community/county clinics.


    Stop being stupid. Colleges offer free counseling and therapy to students. If mental health is an issue that should be offered for free, so should physical health.

    Many students are idiots. College is a time to make mistakes, which is what they are doing when they get an STI. Offering a free service makes their lives much easier so they dont have to stress about money, spend an entire day to go to a community clinic (which may not be available) and can get on with their studies.
  • commoncoll

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    Apr 07, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    commoncoll said
    AlphaTrigger saidFrom a business standpoint, it makes good sense to offer STI screenings.

    His school does offer STI screenings. The question is on whether they should offer free STI screenings. I don't think tuition money from students should be used to pay for STI screenings. The burden of responsibility can't fall on the government or the school alone.

    College students are adults who, unless living under a rock for the past decade, should recognize the need for safe practices. If they can't afford it, like the rest of the populace, they can go to community/county clinics.


    Stop being stupid. Colleges offer free counseling and therapy to students. If mental health is an issue that should be offered for free, so should physical health.

    Mental health is a whole different problem than accepting personal responsibility for voluntary personal actions.

    College students are legal adults, such "idiot" students need to accept responsibility. And mistakes come with punishments. Throwing money at something is not a solution.
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    Apr 08, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
    Conservative answer: just let them die. Nasty immoral people. They are probably gay or latino anyway. Why should I pay for them etc etc