Rick Santorum's Daughter Bella

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Apr 09, 2012 4:10 PM GMT
    Okay, call me cynical...But does anyone else get the feeling that Rick Santorum, in his desperation to be President, uses his daughter Bella's illness for sympathy points? It just seems like whenever his campaign is struggling, Bella takes a trip to the hospital. Coincidence? icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 09, 2012 4:12 PM GMT
    Most definitely...
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    Apr 09, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
    Santorum is typical of the overly religious Fundi's, there isn't an issue, a conflict or an unfortunate event that they won't turn into a means or justification for 'god' to move their cause forward. After all, in their eyes 'gods' hand is in everything, even it seems the lies they tell to move facts around for the sake of their winning with 'gods will' playing out in their lives.

    To them even this unfortunate deformed child is gods 'kick in the ass' to be used for 'gods purposes', they wouldn't have thought of avoiding a late life pregnancy by using contraceptives since doing so would controvert 'gods' 'wonderful ways' of turning things around for the good. What was it the fundi's say, turn a bad pregnancy "the lemon" into "lemonaid". Oh well, his fanaticism has it working for him, doesn't he !!
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    Apr 09, 2012 5:51 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidOkay, call me cynical...But does anyone else get the feeling that Rick Santorum, in his desperation to be President, uses his daughter Bella's illness for sympathy points? It just seems like whenever his campaign is struggling, Bella takes a trip to the hospital. Coincidence? icon_eek.gif
    I'd be ill, too, if he were my father.
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    Apr 09, 2012 6:02 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidOkay, call me cynical...But does anyone else get the feeling that Rick Santorum, in his desperation to be President, uses his daughter Bella's illness for sympathy points? It just seems like whenever his campaign is struggling, Bella takes a trip to the hospital. Coincidence? icon_eek.gif
    Watch it Todd, you're turning to the "dark side" with posts like this!icon_wink.gif
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    Apr 09, 2012 10:57 PM GMT
    Not me.

    Considering what she's going through, it's not surprising that she would be in and out of hospitals.

    I don't care for Santorum's views like probably many on here, but I don't let my political views sway me into believing a conspiracy theory. I accept this story at face value.

    Unless you want to compete with jockfever for the title of RJ's Residential Glenn Beck, I think you can afford to give Santorum the benefit of the doubt.

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    Apr 10, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    Shes adorable. Hope shes making a speedy recovery. Cant believe anyone would think someone would use this precious girl as a political ploy. Some sick minds here on RJ.
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    Apr 10, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidShes adorable. Hope shes making a speedy recovery. Cant believe anyone would think someone would use this precious girl as a political ploy. Some sick minds here on RJ.



    True...what was I thinking?!?!? No politician would EVER use a personal tragedy as a political ploy to gain sympathy points -- EVER! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 10, 2012 2:33 PM GMT
    This about Santorum from the NYT, might shed some light on how Santorum is using his daughters health for his Campaign. You see, bringing a deformed baby into this world because 'god says so' knowing full well that the child will live in misery and be a tremendous financial and emotional drain on the family makes him 'gods choice candidate'. Whereas had they aborted the unfortunate fetus, that would have been intervening in 'gods will', Santorum is finding this all way too usefull to appear as the 'christian fundi's' perfect candidate who lives out by example, the fanaticism he preaches and would love to force it on everyone else. (below are some quotes from the artical by writers 'Gabriel' and 'Seelye')

    "While many voters find Mr. Santorum’s brand of social conservatism and his speaking style off-putting, it is clear at rallies that Bella softens him. Audiences listen raptly to his descriptions, sometimes wiping away tears.

    Trisomy 18 results in stillbirth for about half the babies carried to term, and 90 percent of children die before their first birthday, said Dr. Robert Marion, chief of genetics and developmental medicine at the Children’s Hospital at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx.

    After the first birthday the survival odds increase, he said, although pneumonia is a common cause of hospitalization because trisomy 18 children often have congenital heart diseases that cause fluid to build up in the lungs, causing infections. The condition has become rarer in the past 25 years, Dr. Marion said, “because people are diagnosing it prenatally and terminating the pregnancies more often now.”

    That is one of the reasons Mr. Santorum cites Bella in his campaign — an embodiment of his respect for the sanctity of life and a reason he opposes Mr. Obama’s health care overhaul. He opposes its requirement that insurance plans cover prenatal screenings, principally amniocentesis, which he said are used to “cull” fetuses with birth defects.
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    "The procedures “are done by and large to find out late in pregnancy whether the child in the womb has a disability,” Mr. Santorum said in Ohio in February.

    “And as we all know, 90 percent of Down syndrome children in this country are aborted once the mother and father find out that child is going to be less than what they were expecting.”

    "He also maintained that the 2010 health care law, because it was designed in part to slow runaway costs, would lead to “a brave new world” in which doctors are pressured to ration care, and disabled children like his daughter would be denied care.

    Dr. Marion, whose program sees about 7,500 children a year with developmental disabilities, said most health insurance does not cover many services the children need and that currently “the government has washed their hands” and there is no public financing for them either.

    “It’s not a matter of these kids being squeezed because there’s pressure on the person providing the care,” he said. “What happens is we’re going to have to turn away some kids with trisomy 18 because there’s nobody to pay for it.”



    Imagine the cost to families and to society, if Christian Fundi fanatics like Santorum, have their way and force bringing all the unfortunate deformed fetuses to full term. Then imagine that with Santorums Ideas, all who bring these deformed children into the world including the poor, are 'on their own' with the costs and coming up with affordable insurance would more than likely be next to impossible. All these problems and expenses are currently avoidable, but he and his 'Godly ways' would end that as soon as they were elected.

    To my way of thinking God gave us scientific inteligence to avoid the above problems, but the supposed Godly Santorum has other ideas of 'Gods will' that intervenes in using good science, Santorum is the last person we need at the head of our country, especially because of the way he is using his Daughters unfortunate health problems as an example of why he should be the next president. The guy has a sick and twisted Ideology that is dangerous.
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    Apr 10, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidShes adorable. Hope shes making a speedy recovery. Cant believe anyone would think someone would use this precious girl as a political ploy. Some sick minds here on RJ.


    I’m not quite cynical enough to think Rick Santorum is using this. God, I hope not.

    From what I understand, she won't recover.

    from NYT a month or so ago:

    "She came down with pneumonia over the weekend, a frightening turn of events given that Bella, as she is known, received a diagnosis of a fatal chromosomal disorder called Trisomy 18 shortly after her birth and has lived longer than most babies born with the illness. About two weeks after her birth, doctors sent her home from the hospital on hospice care, which is usually reserved for the end of life, not the beginning, saying her condition was “incompatible with life.”
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    Apr 10, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/bella-santorum-hospital-rick-santorum_n_1414276.html

    Rick, for God's sake, you're not going to win the nomination, that's pretty much behind us now, so do what's right and be with your family, especially your daughter when she needs you.
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    Apr 10, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidOkay, call me cynical...But does anyone else get the feeling that Rick Santorum, in his desperation to be President, uses his daughter Bella's illness for sympathy points? It just seems like whenever his campaign is struggling, Bella takes a trip to the hospital. Coincidence? icon_eek.gif


    Your being cynical... if you were backing the candidate, you'd be all for it.
    I have no issues with his approach with his young daughter, especially with her condition.
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    Apr 10, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 saidShes adorable. Hope shes making a speedy recovery. Cant believe anyone would think someone would use this precious girl as a political ploy. Some sick minds here on RJ.



    True...what was I thinking?!?!? No politician would EVER use a personal tragedy as a political ploy to gain sympathy points -- EVER! icon_rolleyes.gif


    Thats the problem. U dont think rationally and lack empathy for other human beings. Sad.
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    Apr 10, 2012 6:03 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 saidShes adorable. Hope shes making a speedy recovery. Cant believe anyone would think someone would use this precious girl as a political ploy. Some sick minds here on RJ.



    True...what was I thinking?!?!? No politician would EVER use a personal tragedy as a political ploy to gain sympathy points -- EVER! icon_rolleyes.gif


    Thats the problem. U dont think rationally and lack empathy for other human beings. Sad.


    And I thought I was cynical!
  • KissTheSky

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    Apr 11, 2012 12:54 AM GMT
    This is yet another example of how the so-called "liberal" media bends over so far backward to placate fundies that they avoid asking super-obvious questions and bringing up completely valid ethical points, such as:

    Why would any decent person deliberately choose to bring a tragically deformed and terminally ill child into the world, who will be doomed to live only a few months full of suffering?
    This seems extremely unethical, and tantamount to child abuse. Can you explain why it isn't, Mr. Santorum?

    This irrational fetish the right has with championing "life" has become so extreme that it's led them to choose their own political idealism over compassion for children.

    Religious fundamentalism is a form of mental illness -- when people stop thinking for themselves and common sense goes out the window, bad things happen. So sad.
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    Apr 11, 2012 1:21 AM GMT
    If it was my child, I'd be home with her, not traveling the country in a vain attempt at the presidency. In fact, even if I thought I could be president, I wouldn't do it.

    What happened to family values?
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    Apr 11, 2012 1:35 AM GMT
    She should be taken care of rather well now.. he has all the time in the world now and oodles of money.. She shouldnt lack for excellent healthcare. I dont wanna hear a peep out of him now..
    He should be about his daughter.. not Obama.
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:30 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidIf it was my child, I'd be home with her, not traveling the country in a vain attempt at the presidency. In fact, even if I thought I could be president, I wouldn't do it.

    What happened to family values?


    The calling for your country is even a greater calling but once its clear that he cannot win, it's time to get home and take care of family. He's still young so he can run again at some point in the future.
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:38 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidIf it was my child, I'd be home with her, not traveling the country in a vain attempt at the presidency. In fact, even if I thought I could be president, I wouldn't do it.

    What happened to family values?


    The calling for your country is even a greater calling but once its clear that he cannot win, it's time to get home and take care of family. He's still young so he can run again at some point in the future.


    No. It isn't. That's a very self-indulgent view, particularly for someone like Santorum who lost his last election by 17 points.
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidIf it was my child, I'd be home with her, not traveling the country in a vain attempt at the presidency. In fact, even if I thought I could be president, I wouldn't do it.

    What happened to family values?


    The calling for your country is even a greater calling but once its clear that he cannot win, it's time to get home and take care of family. He's still young so he can run again at some point in the future.


    No. It isn't. That's a very self-indulgent view, particularly for someone like Santorum who lost his last election by 17 points.


    We disagree.

    RMN lost in 1962 and came back six years later to be reelected twice.
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
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    Christian73 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Christian73 saidIf it was my child, I'd be home with her, not traveling the country in a vain attempt at the presidency. In fact, even if I thought I could be president, I wouldn't do it.

    What happened to family values?


    The calling for your country is even a greater calling but once its clear that he cannot win, it's time to get home and take care of family. He's still young so he can run again at some point in the future.


    No. It isn't. That's a very self-indulgent view, particularly for someone like Santorum who lost his last election by 17 points.


    We disagree.

    RMN lost in 1962 and came back six years later to be reelected twice.


    Nixon didn't have a child with multiple disabilities that he and Pat left home to be tended to by strangers while he campaigned.
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:53 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidShes adorable. Hope shes making a speedy recovery. Cant believe anyone would think someone would use this precious girl as a political ploy. Some sick minds here on RJ.


    Probably because he's the epitome of a shitty human being.
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    Apr 11, 2012 4:00 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Christian73 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Christian73 saidIf it was my child, I'd be home with her, not traveling the country in a vain attempt at the presidency. In fact, even if I thought I could be president, I wouldn't do it.

    What happened to family values?


    The calling for your country is even a greater calling but once its clear that he cannot win, it's time to get home and take care of family. He's still young so he can run again at some point in the future.


    No. It isn't. That's a very self-indulgent view, particularly for someone like Santorum who lost his last election by 17 points.


    We disagree.

    RMN lost in 1962 and came back six years later to be reelected twice.


    Nixon didn't have a child with multiple disabilities that he and Pat left home to be tended to by strangers while he campaigned.


    He lost to pat brown by 300,000 votes.
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    Apr 11, 2012 4:15 AM GMT
    I'm sorry to hear that his daughter is ill. It's too bad he couldn't stay in the campaign all the way to the convention. Way to early for him to have left the stage. I hope Newt and Ron stay in the race.
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    Apr 11, 2012 4:20 AM GMT
    Wow.