Two-Spirits in America--a/k/a "Gay Indians"

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    Apr 09, 2012 8:42 PM GMT
    http://www.gay-art-history.org/gay-history/gay-customs/native-american-homosexuality/two-spirit-native-american-gay.html
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    Apr 09, 2012 8:46 PM GMT
    I know this well! Have a wonderful Lakota friend! And several Navajo lifelong friends.
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    Apr 09, 2012 8:50 PM GMT
    Been wondering about the tolerance towards homosexuality by early American Indians since I first saw the 1970 film "Little Big Man" what with those great scenes between "Little Horse" (gay) and "Little Big Man" (Dustin Hoffman).

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    You know, if you really want people to read your interesting link you should perhaps change your thread headline from "Two-Spirits in America" to "Gay Indians."
  • metta

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    Feb 28, 2016 5:44 AM GMT
    Life in the Between: The Beauty and Importance of the Two-Spirit People


    http://www.kosmosjournal.org/news/life-in-the-between-the-beauty-and-importance-of-the-two-spirit-people/
  • AMoonHawk

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    Feb 28, 2016 6:55 AM GMT
    I don't know that I buy into the two spirit thing ... seems like just a way to feminize male homosexuality ... why can't male homosexuality more brawn, like the legions of roman and Greek soldiers?
  • eM_Jay

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    Feb 28, 2016 1:12 PM GMT
    Interesting. Same idea of a "third sex" can be found in some Hindu scriptures and beliefs. The "two-spirited"/third sex includes all possible ranges of sexuality, but encompasses more than just a sexual relationship. As a 'third-sex person' the roles within the society cover anything from two ordinary men living together in monogamous commitment; all the way to trans members of the community who dress however they please either on a regular basis or for occasions. Seems very similar to the 'two-spirit' way of life because 'third-sex' people are also given an elevated status in the community and they often act as mystics/healers and care-givers.

    Also found similar cases of male-'priestesses'in indigenous Namibian bushman (Khoi San) belief systems. Dunno much about em though.

    Cool to see that homos weren't always as hated in some parts of the world... icon_smile.gif

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    Feb 28, 2016 1:28 PM GMT
    eM_Jay saidInteresting. Same idea of a "third sex" can be found in some Hindu scriptures and beliefs. The "two-spirited"/third sex includes all possible ranges of sexuality, but encompasses more than just a sexual relationship. As a 'third-sex person' the roles within the society cover anything from two ordinary men living together in monogamous commitment; all the way to trans members of the community who dress however they please either on a regular basis or for occasions. Seems very similar to the 'two-spirit' way of life because 'third-sex' people are also given an elevated status in the community and they often act as mystics/healers and care-givers.

    Also found similar cases of male-'priestesses'in indigenous Namibian bushman (Khoi San) belief systems. Dunno much about em though.

    Cool to see that homos weren't always as hated in some parts of the world... icon_smile.gif



    Indeed. Third sex people have always been present in India. They face rampant discrimination now but this wasn't always the case. I am glad, that in recent years government have recognised their status. We now have a third sex category along side male and female in all government forms and licence and recently they are also identified as a vulnerable group and are getting reservation in government jobs and universities.

  • Apr 05, 2016 3:42 PM GMT
    I've worked with a woman who identified as "Two-Spirit" is an awesome individual, very knowledgeable We are in the same field.