Americans Are Fat, And Expected To Get Much Fatter - estimate > 2/3rd's overweight or obese by 2020

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    Apr 16, 2012 8:03 AM GMT
    Americans Are Fat, And Expected To Get Much Fatter

    "If Americans stay on this path, 83 percent of men will be overweight or obese by 2020. Women are right behind them, with 72 percent projected to be overweight or obese by then."

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/11/16/142414818/americans-are-fat-and-expected-to-get-much-fatter
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    Apr 16, 2012 8:09 AM GMT
    I'm scared! hehe ;)
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    Apr 16, 2012 11:21 AM GMT
    That just means more money for the models who actually stay in shape. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 16, 2012 11:35 AM GMT
    This i funny, because we are going to see the same thing happening in Africa.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15954744/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/even-africa-obesity-burgeoning-problem/#.T4wDiavOync

    as populations grow, and sustainability becomes increasingly more difficult and unrealistic, people resort to cheap, unhealthy foods.
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    Apr 16, 2012 11:36 AM GMT
    But maybe this is a good thing, because there wont be as much competition in the long run.
    Zombie apocalypse? Sacrifice the fatties.
    New World Order? Sacrifice the fatties.
    Cruising on guys? Sacrifice the fatties.
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    Apr 16, 2012 11:39 AM GMT
    I doubt this, on account of the following:

    - The study presumes that the USA and American nationality will exist in its current form in 2020.

    - If "American" commoners are busy working in debtor's gulags paying off their debt to "Communist" China, or more likely, corporate workhouses for "company store scrip", there won't be any time for sitting around watching the Kardashians latest personal disasters or the like.

    The fattest members of the herd will be culled, and the less fat will become fitter (but not fitness model perfect).

    We might be the prettiest bunch of near-slave wage laborers the world has seen, at least the first generation or so.

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    Apr 16, 2012 11:41 AM GMT
    Augustine92 saidBut maybe this is a good thing, because there wont be as much competition in the long run.
    Zombie apocalypse? Sacrifice the fatties.
    New World Order? Sacrifice the fatties.
    Cruising on guys? Sacrifice the fatties.


    Malthus was right, it just was delayed for more dramatic lulzy effect. ;)
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    Apr 16, 2012 12:02 PM GMT
    America is about all things big, the bigger the better.
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    Apr 16, 2012 12:04 PM GMT
    America has a cheap food policy fuelled by cheap energy (oil). That means that they can indulge in full consumerism when it comes to sugar, wheat and corn. Our bodies can handle a little bit of this stuff but not the amount that we're constantly snacking and bingeing on. Check out the all you can eat buffets....lol. When oil hits $150/barrel you'll see a dramatic shift in prices and exercise habits.

    The sad thing is in the meantime it will be crisis for the medical system.
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    Apr 16, 2012 12:07 PM GMT
    You don't get it. The aliens are fattening us up on purpose. Humans are an excellent food source. The invasion is coming...
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    Apr 16, 2012 12:11 PM GMT
    As an American, I find it difficult to believe that people are limited to fatty processed foods because of price.

    Compare the price of a Digiorno pizza at $7 for about 2 pounds of food compared to organic bananas that sell for only $0.75 per pound.
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    Apr 16, 2012 12:20 PM GMT
    Scotticus saidAs an American, I find it difficult to believe that people are limited to fatty processed foods because of price.

    Compare the price of a Digiorno pizza at $7 for about 2 pounds of food compared to organic bananas that sell for only $0.75 per pound.


    That depends on where you live. In many poor areas, there is no one selling organic bananas.
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    Apr 16, 2012 12:21 PM GMT
    Qatar named as fattest nation on Earth
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    Apr 16, 2012 12:38 PM GMT
    Well you don't see organic bananas on TV, at the end of the isles on sale or adulterated with sugar. Even french fries at some outlets are caramelized with sugar. Who would buy bland bananas when they can wolf down cheap ice cream....lol. It's a mindset. How many people do you know that don't have a crap everyday and end up with their appendix blowing up because it can't lubricate the colon. It use to be only the rich could buy this stuff.

    Sorry getting off on a tangent here. I like this site because you guys are into taking care of yourself. When the world around us is crumbling apart we have to stop and ask why... and not necessarily be looking for blame. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.
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    Apr 16, 2012 1:26 PM GMT
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    Scotticus saidAs an American, I find it difficult to believe that people are limited to fatty processed foods because of price.

    Compare the price of a Digiorno pizza at $7 for about 2 pounds of food compared to organic bananas that sell for only $0.75 per pound.


    That depends on where you live. In many poor areas, there is no one selling organic bananas.


    The regular bananas are good too. You can get 4 bananas or a small bag of chips for the same money. How many here ( including me) buy "nutrition" bars for $2, while the banana does a better job for 25 cents?

    Answer: Its the power of ADVERTISING.

    The last president who tried to set limits on food advertising was President Carter. He saw the predictions on how America was to get fatter, and tried to do something about it. But the food lobby came down hard on congress, and so we all know how that turned out.

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    Apr 16, 2012 2:46 PM GMT
    Scotticus saidAs an American, I find it difficult to believe that people are limited to fatty processed foods because of price.

    Compare the price of a Digiorno pizza at $7 for about 2 pounds of food compared to organic bananas that sell for only $0.75 per pound.



    Ha, ha. It's the fat myth that is causing the obesity. Ever since dietary fat was erroneous linked to body fat obesity has increased. To add to the problem the revised food pyramid shows processed carbs at it's base when processed carbs should be totally eliminated. Solution , insurance rates based on body composition.
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    Apr 16, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said Solution , insurance rates based on body composition.


    Great idea.

    Ever notice that it is the FAT guy doing all the talking? Why do so many FAT guys have SO MUCH to say? SO MUCH to tell us about? They often have ALL the answers for the rest of us. Nothing worse than hearing (or reading - right here on RJ) the FAT guy all the time. This is a fitness and health site. Why is the FAT guy still here - years later - spewing his bullshit?
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    Apr 16, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    Scotticus saidAs an American, I find it difficult to believe that people are limited to fatty processed foods because of price.

    Compare the price of a Digiorno pizza at $7 for about 2 pounds of food compared to organic bananas that sell for only $0.75 per pound.


    That depends on where you live. In many poor areas, there is no one selling organic bananas.

    Conventional wisdom (or collective stupidity depending on your point of view) is that you shouldn't waste your money on organic bananas or any other fruit or vegetable with a skin you peel. (Presumably that's because of sprayed herbicides but doesn't factor in what's leached into the soil.)
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    Apr 16, 2012 3:24 PM GMT
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    Apr 16, 2012 3:33 PM GMT
    I find it amusing that the term obese and overweight clinically doesn't always mean fat. Body builders with huge muscle are such an example. Clinically they don't differ between obese fat or obese body builder. They look at it the same way. All around Seattle I see more and more fit muscle men.

    Clinical statistics are flawed. Even for me I'm considered overweight bein 5'5 and 168 lbs. It's bs really. Yes there are a lot of large people that are fat and happy. But a lot are also obese muscle men.
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    Apr 16, 2012 3:49 PM GMT
    Samm77 saidI find it amusing that the term obese and overweight clinically doesn't always mean fat. Body builders with huge muscle are such an example. Clinically they don't differ between obese fat or obese body builder. They look at it the same way. All around Seattle I see more and more fit muscle men.

    Clinical statistics are flawed. Even for me I'm considered overweight bein 5'5 and 168 lbs. It's bs really. Yes there are a lot of large people that are fat and happy. But a lot are also obese muscle men.



    The BMI for "overweight" used to be 27. Then in the 90s, they changed it to 25. This caused millions of people to instantly become "overweight" because they were now in that category.
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    Apr 16, 2012 3:51 PM GMT
    Samm77 saidI find it amusing that the term obese and overweight clinically doesn't always mean fat. Body builders with huge muscle are such an example. Clinically they don't differ between obese fat or obese body builder. They look at it the same way. All around Seattle I see more and more fit muscle men.

    Clinical statistics are flawed. Even for me I'm considered overweight bein 5'5 and 168 lbs. It's bs really. Yes there are a lot of large people that are fat and happy. But a lot are also obese muscle men.


    Are there any studies on the life expectancy between people that are really big and muscular vs. people that are obese but with similar weights? I would be curious to see the results. We know that, in general (not always), people that are really big, for example, extremely tall, tend to live not as long as shorter people. Another example is people with gigantism. It is just harder on the body to be big. It is harder on the organs, blood flows have to travel farther making the heart have to work that much harder all of the time, etc. I'm guessing that the big muscular people are still better off as long as they did not damage their organs in getting big.
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    Apr 16, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
    it would be interesting to see a study on this.

    Diversity in size in humans is not that great as it is in dogs.

    With a grey wolf as a standard common ancestor, being roughly the same size as a large husky or German Shepherd, the outliers are teacup dogs like chihuahuas and working dogs like Irish Wolfhounds and Great Danes - despite a chihuahua being 1/50th the mass of an Irish Wolfhound, their hearts only differ in size by about 30%.

    That same heart (more or less) will keep the big dog alive for 8 years, while the ankle-biter will likely live to see 20 years.

    Humans (naturally) vary from around 50kg to 100kg (with severely obese fat people, sumo wrestlers, and mass-monster body builders not accounted for as masses over 120kg would almost never appear in nature) with hearts that naturally have little variance in size (endurance athletes being an exception).

    Still, most of the extremely long-lived people I've met (80+ years) were never clinically obese, and tended to be smaller of frame and mass (though they may have had somewhat robust but compact musculature in their youth).

    I know of far fewer 80+ year olds in superior health over 180cm. Most tend to be in the 165-175cm range.
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    Apr 16, 2012 5:03 PM GMT
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    Scotticus saidAs an American, I find it difficult to believe that people are limited to fatty processed foods because of price.

    Compare the price of a Digiorno pizza at $7 for about 2 pounds of food compared to organic bananas that sell for only $0.75 per pound.



    Ha, ha. It's the fat myth that is causing the obesity. Ever since dietary fat was erroneous linked to body fat obesity has increased. To add to the problem the revised food pyramid shows processed carbs at it's base when processed carbs should be totally eliminated. Solution , insurance rates based on body composition.


    This.

    A pizza actually has a pretty decent macronutrient balance. People just eat too much of it.

    Eating "4 bananas or a small bag of chips for the same money" (which is nothing but bloodsugar spiking starch) is a recipe for diabetes.
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    Apr 16, 2012 5:18 PM GMT
    metta8 saidAmericans Are Fat, And Expected To Get Much Fatter

    "If Americans stay on this path, 83 percent of men will be overweight or obese by 2020. Women are right behind them, with 72 percent projected to be overweight or obese by then."

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/11/16/142414818/americans-are-fat-and-expected-to-get-much-fatter


    Just back from the Tactical Strength and Conditionng Conference in Las Vegas-the stats are terrifying.
    From the Navy,Law Enforcement,Firefighters etc. the failure rates of new recruits are mind boggling.A former Navy Seal who isn't scared of much[ I don't think] gave a quote we all wrote down: "Obesity is a greater threat to the United States than Terrorism ever will be".The interesting thing was that the stats for women are worse.
    Speaker after speaker said the same thing-we have to do something.The other thing they all noticed was the complete and utter laziness of todays younger generation.Had a hilarious conversation with a Fire chief who went on a rant about having to show the younger guys in the Firehall how to cook.And how he got them to stop playing video games[ a pet hate of mine as well]
    Last year at this conference there was a sense of urgency..this year it was almost panic.
    And it isn't just an American problem,, other countries are creeping up there too.