Romney: 'Nonworking parents' raise 'indolent and unproductive' kids

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    Apr 16, 2012 6:30 PM GMT
    Ah... I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning. It appears Mittens was against women being stay at home Moms before he was for it. From his book:

    MittensIn some quarters, however, the American work ethic is waning. Some people devote themselves to find ways not to work. Some seem to take a perverse kind of pride in being slipshod or lackadaisical...

    Welfare without work erodes the spirit and the sense of self-worth of the recipient. And it conditions the children of nonworking parents to an indolent and unproductive life. Hardworking parents raise hardworking kids; we should recognize that the opposite is also true. The influence of the work habits of our parents and other adults around us as we grow up has lasting impact.


    I guess Ann has to get a job!

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/16/1083768/-Mitt-Romney-Nonworking-parents-raise-indolent-and-unproductive-kids
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    Apr 16, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
    Sometimes I wonder if your brain is just wired all wrong, because your interpretation of things is so far off the deep end it's almost comical.
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    Apr 16, 2012 6:45 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidSometimes I wonder if your brain is just wired all wrong, because your interpretation of things is so far off the deep end it's almost comical.


    No. I'm interpreting it directly. Ann Romney came from wealth and married a very wealthy man, so she get's to be defended as a "stay at home" mom. But for women in poverty, being a mother isn't work. They have to get out and earn their welfare check.

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    Apr 16, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidSometimes I wonder if your brain is just wired all wrong, because your interpretation of things is so far off the deep end it's almost comical.


    No ... It shows Romneys complete misunderstanding of what the typical .... American deals with in this economy
    Really MIT? Indolent children ..... No working parents?
    When it's YOU who said that unemployment is rampant in America
    When it's YOU and your party who want to abolish unemployment insurance for people who are out of work for a long time

    And Didn't Romney just misrepresent what a certain person named Hilary said about stay at home Moms?
    So now when there is poverty thrown into the picture .... When they CAN'T get a job .... Or they are too poor then it's THEIR problem

    ARE THERE NO WORKHOUSES?
    ARE THERE NO PRISONS?

    Dickens wrote that in the 19th century
    You'd think we'd progressed by now
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    Apr 16, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidSometimes I wonder if your brain is just wired all wrong, because your interpretation of things is so far off the deep end it's almost comical.


    No. I'm interpreting it directly. Ann Romney came from wealth and married a very wealthy man, so she get's to be defended as a "stay at home" mom. But for women in poverty, being a mother isn't work. They have to get out and earn their welfare check.



    But in countries like America and Australia, children are a choice. You are not born pregnant, you can prevent becoming so, and if this fails you still have other options the last being adoption; thus more mum/s like Mrs Romney should have more children because they can stay at home, ans care for them, and people who can not, or are not willing to do so, should not have as many or if any at all. Children are a choice in America.
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    Apr 16, 2012 7:37 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidSometimes I wonder if your brain is just wired all wrong, because your interpretation of things is so far off the deep end it's almost comical.


    No. I'm interpreting it directly. Ann Romney came from wealth and married a very wealthy man, so she get's to be defended as a "stay at home" mom. But for women in poverty, being a mother isn't work. They have to get out and earn their welfare check.



    But in countries like America and Australia, children are a choice. You are not born pregnant, you can prevent becoming so, and if this fails you still have other options the last being adoption; thus more mum/s like Mrs Romney should have more children because they can stay at home, ans care for them, and people who can not, or are not willing to do so, should not have as many or if any at all. Children are a choice in America.


    Thanks for proving your idiocy again. If you're going to comment on American politics you should at least keep track of the news.

    In case you hadn't seen it, Romney wants to eliminate Planned Parenthood, subject women to invasive, medically unnecessary procedures in order to have an abortion and not fund abortion for poor women.

    So they are trying to eliminate the very choices for you claim women have.
  • GQjock

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    Apr 16, 2012 7:49 PM GMT
    Children are a CHOICE in America?

    Yeah? Try getting knocked up by your step father and try to have that fetus that was a result of a rape in some of these red states where the republican party is running rampant and see how much of a CHOICE it is

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    Apr 16, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
    Romney: 'Nonworking parents' raise 'indolent and unproductive' kids

    Actually he's got a good point - politically speaking, that is.

    The unemployed people he's trashing are likely at the low end of voter turnout. Especially with the new voter restrictions Republicans have enacted at State level across the country, that favor the rich, and penalize the poor.

    Whereas the Teabaggers and Right Wingers who agree with this disgusting prejudice will turn out in large numbers at the voting polls. So Romney has a winning issue for himself.

    When dealing with Republicans, remember it's always about the votes, not about people. Republican Party motto: "Party First, People Second".
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    Apr 16, 2012 10:08 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidAh... I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning. It appears Mittens was against women being stay at home Moms before he was for it. From his book:

    MittensIn some quarters, however, the American work ethic is waning. Some people devote themselves to find ways not to work. Some seem to take a perverse kind of pride in being slipshod or lackadaisical...

    Welfare without work erodes the spirit and the sense of self-worth of the recipient. And it conditions the children of nonworking parents to an indolent and unproductive life. Hardworking parents raise hardworking kids; we should recognize that the opposite is also true. The influence of the work habits of our parents and other adults around us as we grow up has lasting impact.


    I guess Ann has to get a job!

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/16/1083768/-Mitt-Romney-Nonworking-parents-raise-indolent-and-unproductive-kids


    Republicans will say whatever it takes to get elected so that they can turn back the clock on economic and social progress.
  • mke_bt

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    Apr 17, 2012 12:34 AM GMT

    I kind of agree with that statement. When you have generations of families on the dole its kind of easy not to try to break out of the cycle of dependency.
    But then you have your trust fund brats...
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    Apr 17, 2012 7:29 AM GMT
    GQjock saidChildren are a CHOICE in America?

    Yeah? Try getting knocked up by your step father and try to have that fetus that was a result of a rape in some of these red states where the republican party is running rampant and see how much of a CHOICE it is



    There are still choices, don't let your hate blind you to them; yes pregnancy in countries like Australia and America are a choice; even if it's come about because of rape. You do not have to have or keep that child. But for some reason in Australia and America it's the people we need to breed the least do it the most. But saddly Abortion has been abused as a form of birth controle, and thats what people are up in arms about.

    No we need more mothers like MRS Romney, and less like Chillery.
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    Apr 17, 2012 7:32 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidRomney: 'Nonworking parents' raise 'indolent and unproductive' kids

    Actually he's got a good point - politically speaking, that is.

    The unemployed people he's trashing are likely at the low end of voter turnout. Especially with the new voter restrictions Republicans have enacted at State level across the country, that favor the rich, and penalize the poor.

    Whereas the Teabaggers and Right Wingers who agree with this disgusting prejudice will turn out in large numbers at the voting polls. So Romney has a winning issue for himself.

    When dealing with Republicans, remember it's always about the votes, not about people. Republican Party motto: "Party First, People Second".


    Now how are your kids going? Are they not people you created, have you yourself not put other things before them?

    Thus how does this make you any better as a Democrat, than the Conservatives; they are more about family.
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    Apr 17, 2012 9:03 AM GMT
    I haven't read Romney's book and I don't know the context of his statement regarding non working parents and the results on their children. If he was referring to workers who lost their jobs due to layoffs, large business closings and the like through no fault of their own, I'd have to disagree about the results on the children, because those conditions seldom last for long periods.

    If however, Romney was talking about the single mother with first one man then another coming in and 'roosting' for long periods and maybe adding another child to her brood before he leaves making room for another man to take his place, then yes, Romney has a point that is valid. Children learn by example and if they don't see someone going to work from the adults in the household he's being raised in, then they will not know what work is, what it is for, the value of work, nor the necessity of work. Work will be foreign to that child. This is nothing but common sense. They repeat what they are raised seeing as their family norm. Yes, some break out of the cycle, but not the majority. Unless something within themselves spurs them on to look around at the 'rest of the world' around them, and finds some attraction or something about other exemplar adults that inspires them, then those children are sadly doomed.

    I was director of a US Gov. Public Housing Agency for many years and I've seen the results of families raising children in environments where few adults around them were employed and more often than not, the children repeat the habits and examples of the adults they were raised around. After all we all learned to large degree by example. I know many a family like this and have seen firsthand the results from birth to adulthood and the results aren't good.