Gay activist beaten to death in Halifax NS

  • musicdude

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    Apr 17, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
    http://www.thecoast.ca/RealityBites/archives/2012/04/17/raymond-taavel-killed-on-gottingen-street
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    Apr 17, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    That sucks
  • Import

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    Apr 18, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    Just goes to show you Canada is not all that and a bag of chips.


    Poor dude tho. RIP
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    Apr 18, 2012 1:30 AM GMT
    Very sad. icon_sad.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    Apr 18, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
    Very sad indeed and it makes you angry!
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    Apr 18, 2012 1:57 AM GMT
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  • hockeydude12

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    Apr 18, 2012 2:03 AM GMT
    I agree, a very sad day for Canada, however I don't necessarily think this is a hate crime. If you read more about it, you'll find the killer is a psyco with a pre-dispossition to violence. The fact that he was let out for an unsupervised day from his mental health ward with this information on his record is really the issue.
  • whuk

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    Apr 18, 2012 2:07 AM GMT
    I've got friends out there performing in La Cage Aux Folles... a scary thing to happen given the circumstances.
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    Apr 18, 2012 4:09 AM GMT

    hockeydude12 said, "If you read more about it, you'll find the killer is a psyco with a pre-dispossition to violence. The fact that he was let out for an unsupervised day from his mental health ward with this information on his record is really the issue."

    I think so, too, as to who is, I feel, responsible here.

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  • vintovka

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    Apr 18, 2012 4:20 AM GMT
    This really sucks, Halifax is a beautiful city, but this definitely makes it look ugly.
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    Apr 19, 2012 12:17 AM GMT
    Import saidJust goes to show you Canada is not all that and a bag of chips.


    Poor dude tho. RIP


    Actually according to other article the killer was a patient at the East Coast Forensic Hospital in Burnside, N.S...supposedly he was on a 1 hour leave, but didn't return. This guy suffers from paranoid schizophrenia and has a history of violence. I would blame this on the board that released this mental patient with no surveillance and not so much the patient himself.

    This is far from being an organized hate crime.
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    Apr 19, 2012 12:38 AM GMT
    charlitos said
    Import saidJust goes to show you Canada is not all that and a bag of chips.


    Poor dude tho. RIP


    Actually according to other article the killer was a patient at the East Coast Forensic Hospital in Burnside, N.S...supposedly he was on a 1 hour leave, but didn't return. This guy suffers from paranoid schizophrenia and has a history of violence. I would blame this on the board that released this mental patient with no surveillance and not so much the patient himself.

    This is far from being an organized hate crime.

    Regardless of the reasoning for his death, it shouldnt have happened, i hope they give the mental the death sentence for this, so disgusting.
  • musicdude

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    Apr 19, 2012 12:43 AM GMT
    no death sentence in Canada. we haven't had that in while. in fact, some of our prisons are sickeningly comfortable
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    Apr 19, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
    charlitos saidThis guy suffers from paranoid schizophrenia and has a history of violence. I would blame this on the board that released this mental patient with no surveillance and not so much the patient himself.

    This is far from being an organized hate crime.

    So I wonder if the board will be blamed at all. Usually such agencies are given a pass, legally exempt from any consequence for their decisions.
  • musicdude

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    Apr 19, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
    even if the board is given a pass, the practice should be put in question.

    personally, i don't believe the people responsible deserve legal action but they should suffer some kind of consequence
  • GQjock

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    Apr 19, 2012 12:40 PM GMT
    hockeydude12 saidI agree, a very sad day for Canada, however I don't necessarily think this is a hate crime. If you read more about it, you'll find the killer is a psyco with a pre-dispossition to violence. The fact that he was let out for an unsupervised day from his mental health ward with this information on his record is really the issue.


    If this is true whoever let this man out for this Unsupervised Day is basically responsible for manslaughter
  • Marko89

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    Apr 19, 2012 1:06 PM GMT
    RIP brother! icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 19, 2012 1:41 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    hockeydude12 saidI agree, a very sad day for Canada, however I don't necessarily think this is a hate crime. If you read more about it, you'll find the killer is a psyco with a pre-dispossition to violence. The fact that he was let out for an unsupervised day from his mental health ward with this information on his record is really the issue.


    If this is true whoever let this man out for this Unsupervised Day is basically responsible for manslaughter

    That's what I think. Not sure this is a gay hate crime, and you guys know I would say so if there was some clear evidence of it.

    No, I think this was a disturbed individual, who might have gone after a gay man, but from the standpoint of his unbalanced mind. Or who just killed him randomly, nothing gay about it at all.

    It goes back to the authorities who made a poor decision to release him. That's where I think the focus should be. But given the usual tendency of bureaucracies to circle the wagons, I doubt anyone or any agency will ever be held fully accountable.
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    Apr 22, 2012 8:19 PM GMT
    So sad that in 2012 we still have to in some places fear for our lives if we are out. *shakes head*