Moving from Boston to South Florida... freaking out a little

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    Apr 18, 2012 12:15 PM GMT
    After 25 years in Boston and 15 at my current job, I'm taking a new job in Fort Lauderdale. Moving in four or five weeks. I'm a little freaked out, this is going to be a huge change for me. And the process of moving 1,500 miles seems like a logistical nightmare at this point, I feel like I'm jumping into the deep end of the pool.

    There are so many things about Boston I'll miss, but I'm ready for a new scene, a new climate, new people. It's time to go.

    If anybody in the area has suggestions for or thoughts about living there please let me know. My office will be in Fort Lauderdale and I'd consider living there or Miami.

    And please wish me luck! I think I'm going to need it.

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    Apr 18, 2012 12:28 PM GMT
    as a boy from the northeast who spent 4+ years traveling the country on business, lived in Nyc, Boston... I thought south florida would be a great change of pace.... I lasted 6 months.. the level of education is so poor compared to the northeast. The job market sucks and its slightly shady- ft. lauderdale is an older crowd, and miami - forget it if you dont speak spanish. Another problem is that its a tourist state- hard to meet quality people as its a transient place. Many people refer to florida as an evil tropical island.. though most people have to figure it out the hard way. For me- its good to visit, but not to live. Good luck though!
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    Apr 18, 2012 12:30 PM GMT
    TropicalMark and Larkin are Floridians. Seek them out. Maybe visit on your way to your new pad?
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    Apr 18, 2012 12:53 PM GMT
    The commute south to Miami is Hell on Earth. Either Fort Lauderdale itself or the immediate surrounding area, that includes my own Wilton Manors and Oakland Park, are better options in my view.

    All 3 are very gay friendly, the area easy to live (so long as you don't locate along a main artery, but on a quieter side street), and you're still close enough to attractions you might like for a pleasure jaunt, such as the beach or Miami arts scene. And the Fort Lauderdale area is roughly equidistant between Key West and Orlando, not very far from the Everglades, and some also like to visit the Gulf Coast for a less hectic experience, though I find it a snooze.

    We're helping a gay couple right now look into Fort Lauderdale, currently living in the gay desert of Republican Palm Beach County north of us (actually it's my golf instructor's son - listening rigsby? - who'd really would like to see them move away from Palm Beach to improve their gay quality of life).

    We know a number of local gay real estate agents that we strongly trust, and whose sites I'll share with you. In fact, one of them is my secondary Personal Representative in my will, should my husband predecease me, and his will also names him. You can't have more trust than that. That's the couple with whom we shared the Passover Seder a few weeks ago.

    He's a manager at Coldwell Banker in FtL, and has helped others we've referred get very nice deals, a totally honest guy who'll work his tail off for you, whether buying or selling. He's known my husband much longer than me, and if he were to screw you over he knows he would lose a friendship of nearly 30 years.

    So I can shoot you some of this info if you like, and when you're ready arrange online or telephone introductions for you.
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    Apr 18, 2012 12:57 PM GMT
    catchy_screen_name saidas a boy from the northeast who spent 4+ years traveling the country on business, lived in Nyc, Boston... I thought south florida would be a great change of pace.... I lasted 6 months.. the level of education is so poor compared to the northeast. The job market sucks and its slightly shady- ft. lauderdale is an older crowd, and miami - forget it if you dont speak spanish. Another problem is that its a tourist state- hard to meet quality people as its a transient place. Many people refer to florida as an evil tropical island.. though most people have to figure it out the hard way. For me- its good to visit, but not to live. Good luck though!


    I've lived in Orlando so I sort of agree to disagree.

    There are plenty of quality people who are not trailer park trash or just interns. However they tend to keep up the imaginary wall against the transient folk. Someone from a northeast city should have no trouble here.

    As for jobs if already moving with one secured then the job market isn't worth fretting over.

    And for every humid day in the middle of the summer I hated I was still tankful for a November day when I could be at a pool while friends in CT were shoveling out 12 inches of snow.

    I've heard bad things about the I-95 commute in and out of Miami - Ft L... and beaten to saying it it appears!
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    Apr 18, 2012 1:10 PM GMT
    It all depends on YOUR frame of mind. You can either embrace the differences or be miserable. Every place has its own unique charms and issues. The culture is definitely NOT "Bostonian".. so if you come here and expect that you'll be sadly disappointed.
    I moved to FL from Calif. It aint Calif here by any stretch of the imagination! Yes, I hate the snowbirds ( we all do) but we embrace them because it keeps anyone from having to pay income taxes! (so we endure. We just remind ourselves of that daily for about 6 months!)

    The Latin culture is everywhere and that fascinates me. If you can immerse yourself in it and not 'fight' it, you'll find that it can be alot of fun.
    Explore! The everglades are right here, the Conch Republic will be south of you by about a couple of hours drive time.

    Go explore the Tampabay area and Orlando to get a feel of the states diverse communities.

    And above all its the WEATHER! Its ALL about the weather/climate. If you HAVE to have 'fall/winter' then just take vacation during those times. But trust me when I say that you'll be rubbing it in the first January here!
    If you can get thru the first summer(depending on if you dont like heat).. you have it made. your blood will take about a year to thin. Your second summer will be a breeze!
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    Apr 18, 2012 1:12 PM GMT
    I stayed in South Florida and its what you make it. I freaking love it. There are a lot of spanish people but the area is really diverse. I thought people there seem pretty cool. I know there some plenty of freelance opportunities there. Plus the people are gorgeous down there. Plan on moving there later this year.
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    Apr 18, 2012 1:25 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidIt all depends on YOUR frame of mind. You can either embrace the differences or be miserable. Every place has its own unique charms and issues. The culture is definitely NOT "Bostonian".. so if you come here and expect that you'll be sadly disappointed.

    Good observations & advice. BTW, did you know my husband is a native Bostonian? And he went through the same thing decades ago.

    Came down here reluctantly to help out his family. After 6 months couldn't wait to get back to Boston. Except - they were having a snowstorm, he fell down on the sidewalk, his car got ticketed for parking at the curb during city snow removal, just a disastrous trip.

    He came right back down here to lay out under the palms in his shorts, and has never left. Oh, short trips back North to see family, and I went along on one, I'm originally from the Northeast myself.

    But let's not forget that OP DJBoston (gonna hafta change that SN?) is coming here for a change of job, not scenery, and will have to make the best of what he finds, as you note. So let's help him make that happen, and maybe some guys should spend less time debating the pros & cons of these places, but more on how to have a great south Florida experience.
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    Apr 18, 2012 1:51 PM GMT
    Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. It's pretty much a done deal, so Art_Deco is right that at this point it's about doing this move the RIGHT way, and not about whether I should do it. It's happening. So please keep the thoughts coming. And yes Bob, I would like any contacts that you have. I think that for now I am going to rent down there rather than buy, as long as I'm holding onto my condo in Boston and renting it out.
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    Apr 18, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
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    catchy_screen_name saidas a boy from the northeast who spent 4+ years traveling the country on business, lived in Nyc, Boston... I thought south florida would be a great change of pace.... I lasted 6 months.. the level of education is so poor compared to the northeast. The job market sucks and its slightly shady- ft. lauderdale is an older crowd, and miami - forget it if you dont speak spanish. Another problem is that its a tourist state- hard to meet quality people as its a transient place. Many people refer to florida as an evil tropical island.. though most people have to figure it out the hard way. For me- its good to visit, but not to live. Good luck though!

    Oh now, we're not all stupid, thanks.


    I won't be able to contribute much to the cumulative IQ of South Florida, but every little bit helps.

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    Apr 18, 2012 2:16 PM GMT
    DJBoston saidAnd yes Bob, I would like any contacts that you have.

    Just spoke with the Coldwell Banker manager on the phone, the info sent to you via RJ e-mail.
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    Apr 18, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
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    DJBoston saidAnd yes Bob, I would like any contacts that you have.

    Just spoke with the Coldwell Banker manager on the phone, the info sent to you via RJ e-mail.


    Got it, thank you! Off to work now (strange being a lame duck) so I'll check it out later in the day. Much appreciated. Always nice not having to search out a realtor you know nothing about. Referrals are much preferred.

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    Apr 18, 2012 2:20 PM GMT
    i hate snow and 0 deg weather...
    IQ, could care less on others cuz i got plenty on my own...
    waking up on a beach view is priceless...

    LA or NYC is just a few hours non stop flight from Fort Laud/MIA, so if i get rusty and slow i simply jet out to those places and get a new charge...

    the slow paced life is not for everyone, but at least compared to a bigger city, i dont need to look elsewhere when i want serenity.

    I go elsewhere when serenity is getting too much and i needed noise to feel im still alive.

    hahaah
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    Apr 18, 2012 2:25 PM GMT
    I moved from the cold northeast to the warm west coast and it was good for me. The only thing about Florida is major hurricane zone...
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    Apr 18, 2012 2:44 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said

    The Latin culture is everywhere and that fascinates me.!


    Yup, to the OP: welcome to Latin America/the Caribbean, because thats basically what South Florida is ;)
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    Apr 18, 2012 2:58 PM GMT
    Based on the responses some other advice:

    Insurance costs can be higher in FL. Higher than MA. Some insurance companies are hesitant to write new business in Florida. Good luck and shop around if needed!

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    Apr 18, 2012 2:59 PM GMT
    ATC84 saidBased on the responses some other advice:

    Insurance costs can be higher in FL. Higher than MA. Some insurance companies are hesitant to write new business in Florida. Good luck and shop around if needed!



    Do you mean car insurance?

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    Apr 18, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
    DJBoston saidAfter 25 years in Boston and 15 at my current job, I'm taking a new job in Fort Lauderdale. Moving in four or five weeks. I'm a little freaked out, this is going to be a huge change for me. And the process of moving 1,500 miles seems like a logistical nightmare at this point, I feel like I'm jumping into the deep end of the pool.

    There are so many things about Boston I'll miss, but I'm ready for a new scene, a new climate, new people. It's time to go.

    If anybody in the area has suggestions for or thoughts about living there please let me know. My office will be in Fort Lauderdale and I'd consider living there or Miami.

    And please wish me luck! I think I'm going to need it.




    What a fun adventure. Change is often good and invigorating. Good luck and have fun in Florida.
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    Apr 18, 2012 3:31 PM GMT
    DJBoston saidDo you mean car insurance?

    Car and property insurance both are high. Florida drivers crash into each other like they're in a carnival bumper car ride. And car theft is high, too. That results in higher car insurance premiums.

    Car and property insurance is also jacked up by the hurricane threat. The Republican State legislature has stacked the rates against homeowners, to favor their insurance industry campaign contributors (aka bribers).

    You must have property insurance by law, at unfavorable rates, if you're a condo owner. Renters will see high rates for personal contents insurance, which actually is a good thing to have. If your windows blow out in a hurricane, or your ground floor unit floods, or the roof comes off and the water pours down, no matter what floor you're on, you'll want that coverage. So that's an additional cost of living here.
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    Apr 18, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
    Like everywhere, South Florida has good and bad. I lived there for 2 1/2. I loved it but was ready to leave. Of course, I lived in the most intense part of South Florida--South Beach. I wouldn't live there unless you love living in the middle of craziness. It was like living in the middle of a nightclub. Not much peace and quiet. However, it was a lot of fun. The rest of Miami, with the exception of midtown and Coconut Grove, is pretty boring. A lot of gringos complain that they have a hard time communicating in Miami because it's full of Spanish-only Latinos. I WISH that were the case. I speak Spanish and I wanted to live in a place where I could practice it. All the latinos I met were bilingual and preferred speaking in English. Maybe I would have had better luck if I had lived in Little Havana. I think the communication problem is an exaggeration by people who resent any type of Spanish being spoken in the United States. If you think about living in South Beach, just realize that the people are very shady and very superficial for the most part. That, unlike most of this post, is not just my opinion. The majority of South Beach residents will tell you the same. As someone said, it's very transient so it's hard to build relationships.

    I lived in Ft. Lauderdale for six months. I preferred South Beach. However, I would think most people would prefer Ft. Lauderdale. It depends on how easily you get bored and how much you prize peace and quiet and meaningful relationships and all that. I, unfortunately, have to admit that the people in South Florida didn't seem all that educated or intelligent. That's something you might really miss coming from Boston. The two places are very different in that regard.

    The people are prettier in South Beach than Ft. Lauderdale but also more vacuous and not as friendly. If you're looking for hook-ups with hot guys, South Beach is the place. If you're looking for friends or a boyfriend, Ft. Lauderdale would be the place.

    Of course, once you're down there, you'll see that South Florida is basically just one big city. You'll learn what you like, what you want and can move around. I think Ft. Lauderdale is a great place to start.

    All this is just one man's opinion and everybody is different. Take it for what it's worth and I wish you all the best. I have a love/hate relationship with South Florida but the love FAR outweighs the hate.
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    Apr 18, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    miamimasseur saidLike everywhere, South Florida has good and bad. I lived there for 2 1/2. I loved it but was ready to leave.


    Where have you gone?
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    Apr 18, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
    oh hunni chiiild, no young and niave....

    dont move to Miami. lol
    Not only will the communte on 95 be a nightmare, but a lily white boy like urself in Miami will NOT fit in as well as u could in Fort Lauderdale.

    I spent 27 years in south florida and only recently moved to San diego....like you for a job.

    You'll like it. I think you'll be in good company too. I'd reckon that half the population in broward county is from 1 of 2 places....the northeast US....and south america/caribbean...

    Fort lauderdale will be a lot more "international" than Boston. A lot more. Most people are pretty friendly. Obvi u have ur typical a-holes like anywhere but all in all, if you're friendly...ppl will return the fave. .

    being that ur from boston. I'm sure you'll love the weather in the winter and HATE summers. But whatever while everyone in boston is freezing their dicks off you'll be chillen like a mawfucka on the beach....sippin some draaanks.
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    Apr 18, 2012 4:12 PM GMT
    I'm one of the few non bitter non complaining transplants here
    I live on the beach...good time to buy..you can get in an ocean view within a few blocks for 200K.

    Great people but like every place..you have to keep your standards high. there are 33 gay guest houses and a lot of people here just to play. That's fine for sportfucking but you probably want to date.

    I did find a husband here and its going on 10 years, so things are good here.

    Lot of gay life outside the bars, Stonewall Library and Museum, Choruses, lot of sports both gay and otherwise. so come on down and have some fun in the sun

    contact me privately me for my email and i'll give you more info

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    Apr 18, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    The rush hour commute between Miami and Fort Lauderdale (either way) can be as long as two hours. While I'd much rather prefer living in Miami, these days Lauderdale is gayer so if you want more of a gay club lifestyle and an easy commute, pick Lauderdale. Miami gays go to Fort Lauderdale for fun when there's no traffic - nights and weekends. (There's no longer enough of a gay infrastructure, political and otherwise, in Miami to support the clubs.) The other three places I'd live in Florida would be Naples, Sarasota and if you twisted my arm (lol) Palm Beach. Tampa Bay area and Orlando? Definitely not a fan.
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    Apr 18, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
    DJBoston saidAfter 25 years in Boston and 15 at my current job, I'm taking a new job in Fort Lauderdale. Moving in four or five weeks. I'm a little freaked out, this is going to be a huge change for me. And the process of moving 1,500 miles seems like a logistical nightmare at this point, I feel like I'm jumping into the deep end of the pool.

    There are so many things about Boston I'll miss, but I'm ready for a new scene, a new climate, new people. It's time to go.

    If anybody in the area has suggestions for or thoughts about living there please let me know. My office will be in Fort Lauderdale and I'd consider living there or Miami.

    And please wish me luck! I think I'm going to need it.



    Do you like warm weather? The beach? I hope so lol.

    Those are the main attractions of living there. Yeah, you have a tourist season to contend with but so does Boston and any other major area.

    You survived the masshole drivers, so I think you can survive florida lol.

    I'd go with Lauderdale or the surrounding areas over Miami. Miami is more urban and does tend to have a strong cuban influence. Speaking Spanish would help if you want to live there.

    Edit: Take me with you! I speak Spanish and I clean. icon_razz.gif