10-year-old Ohio boy who wears ankle braces took BB gun to school to fend off bullies

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    Apr 18, 2012 10:19 PM GMT
    I guess today's youth either take their lives because of bullying or prepare to take down the bullies themselves. Kill or be killed I guess. Kind of a lose-lose situation.

    http://news.yahoo.com/police-10-old-ohio-boy-wears-ankle-braces-205644532.html
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    Apr 18, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    Not trolling/serious:

    The failure rests with parents for not teaching kids to respect differences, and to defend the weak among them by standing up for each other.

    If anyone deserves punishment and re-education, it is the parents.
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    Apr 18, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    alpha, I think you invest too much power in the parents. Some very good parents end up with a sociopath in their brood. I think the media, laws (or lack thereof), peer pressure (it's cool to be a bully) etc all play a hand in raising a child.

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    Apr 19, 2012 2:55 AM GMT


    Sorry, but this song popped in my head when i saw the thread title....
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    Apr 19, 2012 3:00 AM GMT
    Wth is wrong with kids today?! smh
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    Apr 19, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
    Wow
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    Apr 19, 2012 3:06 AM GMT
    meninlove said alpha, I think you invest too much power in the parents. Some very good parents end up with a sociopath in their brood. I think the media, laws (or lack thereof), peer pressure (it's cool to be a bully) etc all play a hand in raising a child.



    I'll give you that.

    When I was a kid and went awry as late as 4th grade, I recall being sent to the principal's office - where I was made to wait in dread anricipation for Mr. Rumsfeld (no relation to the former SECDEF) who in my memory was a giant of a human above most other adults, with a wooden paddle to warm my behind.

    Needless to say, I did not ever repeat that particular behaviour a second time!

    While this event was some time in the early 1980s, public schools today in the USA have no legal standing to so discipline unruly children.

    Parents will excuse bad behaviour and mollycoddle selfishness and resort to the electronic babysitter - the TV set - which is no wise provider of sound moral instruction for how to regard others as important (if not more so) than self.

    IMHO, bad parenting should be held to an account, and perhaps the 39 strokes laid to their backs, as well as a rod of correction for the rebellious child.

    And while I detest onerous "hate crimes" legislation that becomes part of the legal miasma of forcing political correctness only for the sake of preventing litigation, yes... some laws do need to be put on the books to address the causes of bullying.
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    Apr 19, 2012 3:09 AM GMT
    GigoloAssassin said

    Sorry, but this song popped in my head when i saw the thread title....


    I feel that Marilyn Manson is more relevant to the thread at hand than anything Madonna would ever come up with.



    But Jesus this song was a hyperbole when it was released in 1993-1994. I didn't think it would apply to a real life situation in modern day society. Wtf?
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    Apr 19, 2012 5:11 AM GMT
    UberBane saidWth is wrong with kids today?! smh


    The same mother fuckers they were when I was in school 10 years ago.

    Once I beat the shit out of kids, they stopped fucking with me. Put the guns down, whip they ass! I used to throw crayons, chairs, tables, chalk boards...they were like, damn this kid is no wimp!
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    Apr 19, 2012 6:28 AM GMT
    I feel somewhat conflicted about this. Not excusing the kid bringing a firearm to a school, but I understand why he did it.
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    Apr 19, 2012 6:33 AM GMT
    Regardless - I bet ya kids arent gonna pick on him now
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    Apr 19, 2012 6:36 AM GMT
    I think if bullies are going to pick on a disabled child...that child so have the means to kick the shit out of them. THERE I SAID IT.
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    Apr 19, 2012 6:36 AM GMT
    SPOOKYdude saidRegardless - I bet ya kids arent gonna pick on him now


    At the very least, they'll think twice. I think he has in all likelihood achieved his objective. The threat of retaliation is a powerful motivator - that's realism for you.
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    Apr 19, 2012 7:33 AM GMT
    Tallathlete24 said
    I used to throw ... chalk boards


    Furreals? Chalk boards...? Fuck, that must have been one of those adrenaline bench-a-truck-freak-out-mode events.

    Classroom chalkboards are mounted to 4'x8' plyboard sheeting, and are glued/mounted with mastic to the walls of classrooms in most school applications.
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    Apr 19, 2012 7:41 AM GMT
    LOL this is a badass way of taking care of bullies without getting into serious trouble (or harming others I guess...)

    This is the only part thats got me a little questionable;

    [quote][cite][/cite]Vanover said the boy told them he had gotten the gun from his mother, who apparently did not know he had it. She said that the boy's uncle had broken the tip off.
    The boy initially told police that he didn't have a gun, but then said he did have it in his backpack and showed it to a few students, according to the police report./quote]


    Thats a little too much lying for my taste. Whether its the mother or the kid or both.
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    Apr 19, 2012 7:43 AM GMT
    Tallathlete24 said
    UberBane saidWth is wrong with kids today?! smh


    The same mother fuckers they were when I was in school 10 years ago.

    Once I beat the shit out of kids, they stopped fucking with me. Put the guns down, whip they ass! I used to throw crayons, chairs, tables, chalk boards...they were like, damn this kid is no wimp!


    one question: How is he gonna whoop ass if he's in ankle braces?
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    Apr 19, 2012 8:04 AM GMT
    SPOOKYdude saidRegardless - I bet ya kids arent gonna pick on him now


    I would honesty like to believe this.

    The reality of this situation is that the victim pretty much upped the stakes by bringing in a weapon (yes, it's a weapon) to deal with his bullies. That's pretty much an invitation for the bullies (the one's who haven't realized their wrongdoings) to retaliate. First it's BB guns, which could potentially put out an eye, and then it upgrades to a real gun.

    It really is a lose/lose situation and the worst part is that it's a recipe for an innocent bystander to be the one who suffers. Happens more then anyone wants to believe.
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    Apr 19, 2012 12:29 PM GMT
    What's really disgusting is that this kid had to feel like this was his only option

    Yeah parents are at fault for breeding these little psychopaths
    But it's the School that allowed the environment to get this bad

    When a kid is found to be bullying someone .... BOOT his little coward ass and send him back home to the dysfunctional family that made him this way
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    Apr 22, 2012 8:24 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidI think if bullies are going to pick on a disabled child...that child so have the means to kick the shit out of them. THERE I SAID IT.


    AMEN! I was thinking the same thing but was afraid I would be the only one to say it. You pick on a disabled kid, I am not going to be politically correct here, then you deserve everything you get. Who could be so cruel and sick?
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:17 AM GMT
    It's hard to see the virtue in punishing violence... with violence.

    What's missing here is modeling the rule of law to children. And that means effectively dealing with bullying.
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:26 AM GMT
    Bullwinklemoos said

    I feel that Marilyn Manson is more relevant to the thread at hand than anything Madonna would ever come up with.



    But Jesus this song was a hyperbole when it was released in 1993-1994. I didn't think it would apply to a real life situation in modern day society. Wtf?


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