Vitamix or Juicer?

  • yogadudeSEATT...

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    Apr 21, 2012 3:58 PM GMT
    That is the question.
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    Apr 21, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
    Sometimes you feel like some pulp, sometimes you don't.
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    Apr 21, 2012 7:39 PM GMT
    theantijock saidSometimes you feel like some pulp, sometimes you don't.


    very true. Just wondering if it is better to get the fiber (with a vitamix) or to strain it all out (with a juicer).
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    Apr 21, 2012 8:20 PM GMT
    I've been juicing with my Omega for years. I'd imagine the pulp is good for you all the time but if I wanted thickened carrot juice, I'd, well, eat a carrot.

    If I was more ambitious I could probably cook something with the pulp...

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    ...but it usually winds up in the garbage or in the garden instead.

    When I want to make a meal of fruit, instead of a drink of it, I do a protein shake smoothy, blending ice, yogurt, banana plus whatever other fruit, a pear, an apple, whatever's in the house.

    But to answer your question I would guess you get more fiber by not straining it out. For when I do, I supplement with psyllium husks (blended in protein shake or veg caps).

    Also note that with the Omega I can strain all the pulp with the filter or have a pain in the ass cleanup job by leaving the filter out which allows some pulp through. Obviously, mostly I use the filter.
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    Apr 21, 2012 8:41 PM GMT
    Get a juicer, if you want to add in the pulp, you can spoons some out and mix it into your juice.

    But taking pulp out of juice is a lot harder without a strainer.

    You can add the pulp to baked goods, stews, soups, pastas, etc. Or you can mix the pulp with yogurt and cottage cheese. It tastes really good that way.
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    Apr 21, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
    Having had both, I prefer the Viamix hands down. A juicer is a one hit wonder, and can be a pain in the ass to clean.

    A Vitamix is versatile - it juices, can cook soups, make ice cream ... And is very easy to use and clean.

    As to the fiber aspect ... it's an important part of the nutritional matrix. Why discard something that's beneficial healthwise?
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    Apr 21, 2012 8:46 PM GMT
    i'm obsessed with my vitamix!
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    Apr 21, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    Actually I'm finding this thread pretty useful. I was thinking of starting a juice fast and was first wondering whether it was worth investing in one of the better juicer models that would be capable of extracting wheatgrass juice. Now I'm thinking maybe I should just get a Vitamix for the pulp and buy my wheatgrass juice either by the shot or as dehydrated flakes as God intended!

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  • Apr 21, 2012 10:20 PM GMT
    Love my Vitamix, its a shame to throw out the healthy fiber plus lots of missed vitamins. But, the truth be told, I think both would have their use at times.
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    Apr 22, 2012 1:01 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    eagermuscle saidActually I'm finding this thread pretty useful. I was thinking of starting a juice fast and was first wondering whether it was worth investing in one of the better juicer models that would be capable of extracting wheatgrass juice. Now I'm thinking maybe I should just get a Vitamix for the pulp and buy my wheatgrass juice either by the shot or as dehydrated flakes as God intended!


    You know what the cheapest method of extracting wheatgrass juice is? Simply chew on the grass and swallow the juice and spit out the grass after it's nothing more than fibrous material.

    No cost whatsoever. icon_smile.gif

    All you need to do is to purchase the wheatgrass.

    It will be a bit time consuming but you can chew on it like gum while you do other things in the house. Your massetter muscles will get such a workout.

    Now make those Vitamix and wheatgrass purchases and get chewing! You've got a lot of work ahead off youicon_exclaim.gificon_exclaim.gificon_exclaim.gif


    Sounds like a plan, I can see me now:

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    Apr 22, 2012 1:02 AM GMT
    I'd go with the Vitamix. I love mine. It's very easy to clean too. Juicing isn't as healthy as eating the whole fruit (or vegetable). I like mixing protein with kefir and fruit for a delicious and healthy smoothy.
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    Apr 22, 2012 1:38 AM GMT
    We've had a Vitamix for at least 20 years. We now also have a single gear juicer and a Blendtec. The juicer hardly gets used.
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    Apr 22, 2012 1:41 AM GMT
    thanks guys for all of the great feedback. I am definitely leaning toward a Vitamix after reading all of your responses. I already have a blender. What is the difference between a blender and a Vitamix?
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    Apr 22, 2012 3:02 AM GMT
    yogadudeSEATTLE saidWhat is the difference between a blender and a Vitamix?


    Like MMTM said above, it's basically a blender on steroids. If you let a Vitamix run long enough, it will liquefy whatever you put in it. For example, I use it to process summertime farmers market tomatoes for the freezer. I cut out the cores, cut the tomatoes into chunks, put them in the Vitamix, and run it for several minutes. After that, you can't tell that the tomatoes ever even had seeds or skins... it's all just smooth red liquid.

    I also use it on woody vegetable scraps that would otherwise go in the compost bin, specifically the woody ends of asparagus and the woody stems of shiitake mushrooms. Mixed with water and Vitamixed for a good long time, the end result is a creamy smooth asparagus or shiitake soup base.
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    Apr 22, 2012 3:25 AM GMT
    I just ordered a Vitamix from Costco. Many friends have said it works wonders.
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    Apr 22, 2012 3:51 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidTo be honest, a Vitamixer is basically a blender on steroids. But I would not waste my money on juicers. Throwing out all the pulp is such a waste. That's where most of the nutrition is. Drinking just the juice is predominantly water and sugars.

    The Vitamixer is the only juicer that is approved by the American Diabetic Association because incorporating the pulp with the juice helps to slow down the insulin response involved with eating/drinking fruit and vegetable juices.

    I highly discourage drastically spiking your insulin on a regular basis, even if it is with natural sugars. I only spike my insulin with a recovery sports drink after working out to rapidly replaced lost glycogen after intense workouts. But doing this all day with fruits void of their fiber is not a good idea.

    That's my two cents!

    I agree with you, except that a good juicer will provide a concentration of nutrients, but requiring a greater amount of ingredients. I have both a Vitamix and a Norwalk Juicer, so I can be impartial. In most cases, I think the Vitamix is best for the reasons you mentioned. There are specific circumstances that would call for a Juicer, but overall the Vitamix is the way to go.

    You can get more opinions by googling blending versus juicing and juicing versus blending. Here is one article. I wouldn't take all the advantages and disadvantages of either too literally, but you'll get the general idea.
    http://some-like-it-raw.com/2011/02/08/juicing-vs-blending-a-showdown/
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    Apr 22, 2012 5:08 AM GMT
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    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidTo be honest, a Vitamixer is basically a blender on steroids. But I would not waste my money on juicers. Throwing out all the pulp is such a waste. That's where most of the nutrition is. Drinking just the juice is predominantly water and sugars.

    The Vitamixer is the only juicer that is approved by the American Diabetic Association because incorporating the pulp with the juice helps to slow down the insulin response involved with eating/drinking fruit and vegetable juices.

    I highly discourage drastically spiking your insulin on a regular basis, even if it is with natural sugars. I only spike my insulin with a recovery sports drink after working out to rapidly replaced lost glycogen after intense workouts. But doing this all day with fruits void of their fiber is not a good idea.

    That's my two cents!

    I agree with you, except that a good juicer will provide a concentration of nutrients, but requiring a greater amount of ingredients. I have both a Vitamix and a Norwalk Juicer, so I can be impartial. In most cases, I think the Vitamix is best for the reasons you mentioned. There are specific circumstances that would call for a Juicer, but overall the Vitamix is the way to go.

    You can get more opinions by googling blending versus juicing and juicing versus blending. Here is one article. I wouldn't take all the advantages and disadvantages of either too literally, but you'll get the general idea.
    http://some-like-it-raw.com/2011/02/08/juicing-vs-blending-a-showdown/


    Thank you for this! You guys have ALL been awesome.
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    Apr 22, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
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    yogadudeSEATTLE saidWhat is the difference between a blender and a Vitamix?

    ..I also use it on woody vegetable scraps that would otherwise go in the compost bin, specifically the woody ends of asparagus and the woody stems of shiitake mushrooms. Mixed with water and Vitamixed for a good long time, the end result is a creamy smooth asparagus or shiitake soup base.


    From all the enthusiasm here I checked out the Vita blender online.

    The difference is about 3 to 400 dollars. As good as a Vita blender might be, I suspect a lot of the praise goes to justifying its cost. Holy crap, I just got sucked into spending $500 for a fucking blender; I better love this thing.

    What $75 non-luxurious blender won't liquify a fucking mushroom stem? Sorry, but this is just consumerism gone mad. I buy normal blenders, not with all the buttons but just an on off switch. Buttons break. You don't want to blend a lot? Not a problem, just pulse it. This does not take genius to figure out. I've replaced all of one blender in the last 20plus years and I use them frequently.

    Also, while I do sometimes enjoy a fruit smoothie, which a normal blender makes (along with soups--which usually just an immersion blender will handle- & hummus) in a very satisfactory way, since I'm a vegetarian, I kinda like to chew most my vegetables. So it makes me wonder if a lot of these guys are using their Vitablenders to puree their T-bone steaks.

    And if you cut the bone off that standing rib and cram it down a Vita blender and blend for three days, it makes a very smooth soup stock. You'll never have to gum your meats again; now you can just sip them. Having trouble chewing the cob under that corn, not a problem, Vita blender: that's not a bone, that's stock; that's not a cob, that's a meal. $500 bucks out of your wallet and the only thing you're upsetting is your $200 compost tumbler.
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    Apr 22, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
    ^^ I understand the thought process and can relate. My mom was after me to get a Vitamx and I was resistant. All it took was seeing a demo in Costco to convince me.

    I don't particularly like to cook, but the Vitamix is a tool you can build your kitchen around. The blades are dull by design and the lowest speed setting will allow you to float a Dixie cup harmlessly in the chamber.

    OTOH the highest speed settings will liquefy just about anything, and generate enough friction to cook things like soups.

    The variable speed settings mean it can be a food processor, blender, Soup pot and ice cream maker.

    I am cheap as HELL and the last guy to ever get anything merely for the sake of having it. But the Vitamix is a huge exception to the rule. Money well spent for the convenience and versatility.
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    Apr 22, 2012 3:51 PM GMT
    I want a VItamix soooooo bad! I just have yet to justify spending the money on it. icon_confused.gif
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    Apr 22, 2012 4:03 PM GMT
    To compare VitaMix with other blenders, you might find VitMix versus BlendTec comparisons useful. Both are high end, and this review addresses the points. One difference I didn't see him address is the VitaMix has a rod that you can put into the top to push leafy greens down into the mix, that might not get sucked down.
    http://gotgreensrevolution.com/Vitamix-versus-blendtec-review.html
    More comments:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/484932

    More articles google: vitamix vs blendtec
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    Apr 22, 2012 9:42 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    BeachBodyDave saidI just ordered a Vitamix from Costco. Many friends have said it works wonders.


    I bought my last Vitamix from Costco as well but it was during one of their demonstrations in store. I've had mine for over ten years. I had to replace the blades not because they got dull, but I had to replace the entire mechanism under the blender that catches the base below in order to spin. This wore down after nearly eight or nine years. Other than that I have had no problem with it.

    My mother has the older shiny stainless steel model that I gave her when I purchased it in the early 1990's. It's still going strong and never had a problem so far.


    Costco has life time gauntees on them now if they break. Still waiting for mine in the mail.
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    Apr 23, 2012 5:51 AM GMT
    Think my sister has the Vitamix... Ninja something. It's badass. Same blender as Jamba Juice, just no college students, vegans and/or potheads making my drinks nowadays. I miss my wheat grass shot with orange slice chaser. icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 23, 2012 5:59 AM GMT
    Still researching juicers and blenders. (I've never had a juicer and no standard blender I've ever had stood up to frequent use.)

    If I had to choose between a juicer and a blender I'd go with the juicer first for the nutritional delivery. Since I'm not diabetic and I'd be using it primarily for leafy greens and wheatgrass cut perhaps with an apple I'm not worried about insulin spikes from too much sugar, and I'd get the fiber I'd otherwise get from the pulp from other sources. The best juicers appear to be "horizontal" single auger types, the best and far most durable of which by far seems to be the "Angel" brand, but I can't rationalize spending $1,000 on one, whereas the next best bet appears to be an Omega 8004 at about $260.

    While juicers are recommended for vegetables blenders are allegedly better for fruit. The best two blenders are Vitamix ($379) and Blendtec ($465). My preference was for the Vitamix given the durability, customer service and warranty but now given Blendtec's new larger, easier-to-clean carafe with extra wide 4 inch (vs. 3 inch) blades I'm leaning towards that brand. (Apparently the new carafe and wider blade oxidizes whatever it blends less; oxidation is what makes apples turn brown and represents a loss of nutritional content. You also don't need to "tamp down" the produce you're blending with the wider carafe and blade, whereas this extra effort appears much more likely with the Vitamix.) Still undecided between the two.

    I figure that the versatility of getting both a juicer and a blender make the extra expense worthwhile.



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    Apr 23, 2012 6:30 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidStill researching juicers and blenders. (I've never had a juicer and no standard blender I've ever had stood up to frequent use....

    Before getting the Blendtec, check to see if they now have a rod that goes through the top to allow you to push leafy greens down. Vitamix does and I think that had been an important discriminator.

    Also, my opinion the best juicer by far is the Norwalk juicer. Not cheap though.