Watergate Crook, Anti-gay Christian leader Chuck Colson dies.

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    Apr 21, 2012 8:50 PM GMT
    Another anti-gay activist, religious right wing (crook) has died.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/04/21/national/a133238D79.DTL&tsp=1

    Colson was one of the authors of the hideously hateful Manhattan Declaration, a how-to guide for conservative Christians seeking to disobey laws that make life better for LGBT people.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/people/chuck-colson
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    Apr 21, 2012 8:58 PM GMT
    Although I am not a religious person or sympathetic to his views, I think he showed great character in admitting his past wrongdoing and in founding the Prison Fellowship.
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    Apr 21, 2012 9:03 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidAlthough I am not a religious person or sympathetic to his views, I think he showed great character in admitting his past wrongdoing and in founding the Prison Fellowship.

    Don't buy the BS.

    Every psychopath who gets busted ends up "rehabilitating" themselves, often with religion and helping some disadvantaged group to evoke maximum sympathy. But its only their tactics that evolve...they continue getting paid to hurt people. In Chuck Colson's case, the people he hurt were gays. He was an anti-gay activist up until the day the day he got sick.
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    Apr 22, 2012 1:30 AM GMT
    Most of these guys who go out of their way to give gays hell have something to hide, and their being so vocal is a glaring give away. Well adjusted straight men just don't spend their time trying to take down gays over their sexuality, they just have no interest or need to do it.
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    Apr 22, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    realifedad said Most of these guys who go out of their way to give gays hell have something to hide, and their being so vocal is a glaring give away. Well adjusted straight men just don't spend their time trying to take down gays over their sexuality, they just have no interest or need to do it.


    Interesting theory....considering the claim about Nixon having a gay affair with BeBe Rebozzo. Then there was the friendship with cross dresser J Edgar Hoover. Here's a pic of the three self-hating closet cases, along with the little poodle.

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    And who owns that shoe next to the dog?

    It could be Colson, rounding out the quartet of closet cases/evil geniuses.
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    Apr 22, 2012 3:11 PM GMT
    Rest in Peace, Mr. Colson.

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    Apr 22, 2012 4:09 PM GMT
    NJVetteGuy77 saidRest in Peace, Mr. Colson.



    A good man now gone.

    Ahh, a 61 vette. Although the 62 had the 327, I still liked the 61 better because of the painted side coves. Congrats!
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    Apr 22, 2012 4:09 PM GMT
    My Dad used to call him the "crook in chief".... if he wasn't referencing Nixon in that manner...lol
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    Apr 22, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
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    NJVetteGuy77 saidRest in Peace, Mr. Colson.



    A good man now gone.

    Ahh, a 61 vette. Although the 62 had the 327, I still liked the 61 better because of the painted side coves. Congrats!


    Thank you, glad to see someone else agrees with me on more than just one thing!
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    Apr 22, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
    NJVetteGuy77 said
    freedomisntfree said
    NJVetteGuy77 saidRest in Peace, Mr. Colson.



    A good man now gone.

    Ahh, a 61 vette. Although the 62 had the 327, I still liked the 61 better because of the painted side coves. Congrats!


    Thank you, glad to see someone else agrees with me on more than just one thing!


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    Apr 22, 2012 6:07 PM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidHe was a scumbag, and as the prototype of what has become normal behavior for Republicans, he was ahead of his time. A man without shame, morals, or class.

    Anyone who weeps over his death is as morally challenged as he was.
    Agreed!

    Oh and for the rest of you before you go apeshit, When pelosi croaks I wont be cryin either.
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    Apr 22, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
    Beautiful cars, freedom! (sorry to get off the track a lil).
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    Apr 22, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
    NJVetteGuy77 saidBeautiful cars, freedom! (sorry to get off the track a lil).


    Thanks and no better way to get off track that I can think of.
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:57 AM GMT
    This is true, but when I get on the subject of Nixon and his administration, it's a little odd that I would get off track...even for cars.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:10 AM GMT
    NJVetteGuy77 saidThis is true, but when I get on the subject of Nixon and his administration, it's a little odd that I would get off track...even for cars.


    The true liberal administration of the 2nd half of the 20th century and 2nd only to FDR in the entire 20th century IMO.
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    Apr 23, 2012 11:29 AM GMT
    I agree. Unfortunately, few people know that...all they remember is Watergate...
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    Apr 23, 2012 1:27 PM GMT
    Senator Pat Moynihan on Beat the Press around the time of his retirement was asked to review the five or six presidents that he worked with during his long career and proceeded to tick off of the legislative ‘successes’ of the Nixon administration. It was a very long list.
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    Apr 23, 2012 10:05 PM GMT
    Jerry Newcombe: Chuck Colson Was Example of God’s Grace
    Monday, April 23, 2012 03:49 PM
    By: Jerry Newcombe

    An outstanding man died this past weekend. Chuck Colson (1931-2012) was a great author, speaker, and prison reformer.

    He had gone from being a high-priced lawyer to senior counsel for President Richard Nixon to going to jail for Watergate-related crimes.

    Before he went to prison, he had a dramatic conversion after a friend gave him a copy of C. S. Lewis’ classic book, "Mere Christianity." He describes the transformation Christ made in his life in his book, "Born Again," the first of about 30 titles he produced.

    I have had the privilege of interviewing Chuck Colson about half a dozen times for Christian radio and television programs. He was always a great and insightful guest.

    I remember one of those times in the mid-1990s. As I recall, it was a Saturday night, and I interviewed him after he spoke at a conference at the Broward County Convention Center. His assistant told him that there was a crowd waiting for him outside the room where we were doing the interview. But he told Colson he knew a way the two of them could escape through a back exit.

    It was late. Colson had just given a long public speech, then he had to endure a TV interview with me. One could easily see how he would have chosen to simply slip away with his aide.

    But Colson preferred to go meet with the crowd to talk with them. He was a very nice man — the man I got to see on camera and off-camera.

    However, he wasn’t always that way. Someone erroneously said that Colson would drive over his own grandmother if it would help Richard Nixon. Colson said he had never made that statement, but he didn’t bother to correct the record because he liked the reputation it gave him.

    One of his colleagues in the Nixon administration, Jeb Stuart Magruder, who worked for Nixon’s re-election campaign, wrote this in his 1974 memoir, "An American Life:" “I came to regard Colson as an evil genius. His brilliance was undeniable, but it was too often applied to encouraging Richard Nixon’s darker side, his desire to lash out at his enemies, his instinct for the jugular.”

    Memoirs about political events can be self-serving and self-justifying. That would include Colson’s and Magruder’s. But it’s an interesting perspective to hear what a colleague of Colson said about the man before his professed conversion. Magruder continued, “I would have to say — granting always Nixon’s central responsibility for what happened in his administration — Colson was one of the men among his advisers most responsible for creating the climate that made Watergate possible, perhaps inevitable.”

    Having served for seven months, after Chuck Colson got out of prison, he went on to found Prison Fellowship in 1976. This is a ministry that has tremendous impact in touching the lives of hundreds of thousands of inmates around the world. The main goal has been to change convicted criminals into godly men and women.

    Chuck told me in a 2009 interview that Prison Fellowship is established in 114 countries across the globe. Just in the U.S., it has a presence in more than 1,300 prisons. Among many of its activities is providing Christmas gifts each year for the families of incarcerated men and women through the Angel Tree Project.

    Chuck Colson did a daily radio commentary for about three minutes, on some 1,400 outlets across the country, reaching about 8 million listeners a week.

    And Colson has been the driving force behind the Manhattan Declaration. This statement is geared toward uniting Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox Christians to take a stand in an increasingly hostile culture for life, for marriage, and for religious liberty.

    Chuck Colson will be missed.

    One of the most touching things I recall reading ever was where Colson was reflecting on his life, and he realized that he went from the pinnacle of power — with an office just a few doors down from the Oval Office — to being an inmate in prison. Yet it was the prison experience that God ended up using in his life the most — to help other inmates find God and grow in Christ.

    In other words, God used his greatest failure in life for a greater good. As Cal Thomas points out, “Colson’s great legacy isn’t Watergate. It is Prison Fellowship.”

    Not a bad legacy for a man who was once Tricky Dick’s “hatchet man.” Colson once said, “I can very well identify with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, who’s one of my great heroes. Solzhenitsyn says, Bless you, prison; bless you for being in my life; for there lying on the rotting prison straw, I came to realize that the object of life is not prosperity, as we are made to believe, but the maturing of the soul. [End of paraphrase]. For me, prison was a maturing of the soul.”

    Chuck Colson was a great trophy of the grace of God.

    Jerry Newcombe is host of and spokesman for Truth that Transforms with D. James Kennedy (formerly The Coral Ridge Hour). He has written or co-written 23 books, and hosts the website www.jerrynewcombe.com.







    © 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

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    Apr 23, 2012 10:47 PM GMT
    Out of the major figures convicted as a result of the Watergate 'scandal', I think Jeb Magruder may be the only one still alive. Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlicman, and Mardian are all dead....*expletive deleted*
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    Apr 25, 2012 12:41 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH: He was a scumbag, and as the prototype of what has become normal behavior for Republicans, he was ahead of his time. A man without shame, morals, or class. Anyone who weeps over his death is as morally challenged as he was.

    TropicalMark: Agreed! Oh and for the rest of you before you go apeshit, When pelosi croaks I wont be cryin either.


    jockfever: When the morally bankrupt Left asks us to mourn deceased Statist politicians, such as Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, John Kennedy, and even FDR, you can bet there's a seemy side that is being withheld.

    Maybe it's a death under suspicious circumstances, cheating in law school, a KKK hood in the closet, shameless pork barrel politics and buying votes with taxpayer money, alcoholism, drugs, whoring…etc. Phony Statist heroes of the Left expand government, reduce our freedom and prosperity, and frequently pride themselves for living off taxpayers' money.

    When the Left tries to smear a deceased Christian Republican, like Chuck Colson, you can bet he deserves better, a lot better.


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    "After his own jail time, Colson founded Prison Fellowship Ministries, which ministers to [many] inmates in 1,376 American prisons -- and branches in more than 110 nations.

    "He spoke out for prison reform in speeches and books such as 2001's "Justice That Restores." His organization dealt with issues of parole, mental health, proportional punishment, women in prison and the role of faith-based organizations in working with prisoners. He called for victims of crime to have a role in the justice system -- and even have a chance to meet those who committed the crimes against them.

    "On the other hand, the Los Angeles Times dug deeper into Colson's motivations. "The fact that Colson was 'born again' into evangelical Christianity as he was about to be charged in the Watergate scandal caused much snickering in the press," Timothy M. Phelps of the Times notes. "But Colson's conversion proved genuine and lasting."

    "Interestingly, the Britain-based Reuters showed a more nuanced understanding of Colson's faith..."for the rest of his life, Colson worked to bring Christian messages and Bible study to prisoners and their families."

    "Colson did that in many ways. Besides his legislative activism, he also developed the Angel Tree Project, which gets churches to donate Christmas gifts to children of inmates.

    "Even Prison Fellowship's quarterly publication "Inside Journal" has a healthy circulation of 100,000, at a time when many newspapers are shrinking.

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    "Colson often also went back to prison, as it were, to minister directly to the incarcerated... "We're celebrating a man who was a prisoner, who died on a cross, then went into a tomb that could not contain him. Where better to celebrate than in the tomb of society?

    "If Jesus were preaching today, he would be among the poor and outcast in society," Colson continued. "And that's the man who transformed our lives. There is nothing you've gone through with the Florida Department of Corrections, or in your life, that Jesus Christ didn't go through."
    "This is the Colson who deserves to be remembered. A man who was changed and who brought about change. A man who found himself in something, and someone, larger than himself. A man who left prison, but continued to touch people in fellowship.

    James D. Davis

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/religion/faith-and-values/fl-fv-colson-remembrance,0,1668686.story

    May Chuck Colson rest in peace. He was the unlucky one who served time for an offense few people can even remember. He embraced Christianity and left the world a better place.

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    Apr 25, 2012 1:08 AM GMT
    jockfever saidJPtheBITCH: He was a scumbag, and as the prototype of what has become normal behavior for Republicans, he was ahead of his time. A man without shame, morals, or class. Anyone who weeps over his death is as morally challenged as he was.

    TropicalMark: Agreed! Oh and for the rest of you before you go apeshit, When pelosi croaks I wont be cryin either.


    jockfever:

    When the Left tries to smear a deceased Christian Republican, like Chuck Colson, you can bet he deserves better, a lot better.


    What utter religious bullshit.