Facts About Creatine... Period.

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    Apr 22, 2012 4:52 AM GMT
    I'll keep it simple. My research has led me to conclude that I should be taking creatine mono-hydrate over its ethyl ester, hydrochloride and kre-alkalyne counterparts based on various peer reviewed journals and other studies available online.

    Mono-hydrate is convenient,cheap, accessible and most of all CMH seems to be the most effective.

    If you could make this thread as productive as possible and only post credible literature on creatine.

    thanks guys
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    Apr 22, 2012 12:03 PM GMT
    CMH is great if you respond well to it- not everyone does. Personally I have better results with CEE and Creatine HCL (Con- Cret)
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    Apr 22, 2012 12:17 PM GMT
    track_boi saidI'll keep it simple. My research has led me to conclude that I should be taking creatine mono-hydrate over its ethyl ester, hydrochloride and kre-alkalyne counterparts based on various peer reviewed journals and other studies available online.

    Mono-hydrate is convenient,cheap, accessible and most of all CMH seems to be the most effective.

    If you could make this thread as productive as possible and only post credible literature on creatine.

    thanks guys


    Well could you please post links to the studies you read?
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    Apr 22, 2012 12:29 PM GMT
    As knowledgable as I am about most supplements, I'm endlessly confused by the different types of creatine. Isn't CMH the kind that has you running to the bathroom for your dear life?
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    Apr 22, 2012 12:47 PM GMT
    All I took in high school/college was mono-hydrate. My best friend did a year of research and lifting before I got involved in lifting with him. I also prefer right now cause it's cheap.
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    Apr 22, 2012 12:52 PM GMT
    I just eat healthy whole foods, and try not to freak out. Have you tried that? You know, just eating healthy and relaxing?
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    Apr 22, 2012 12:54 PM GMT
    I think I've tried all forms of creatine over the years for me. CMH works best. as you said it's cheap and plentiful. and I've never had any adverse side affects.
    I've never seen or felt any advantage to other forms
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    Apr 23, 2012 7:24 PM GMT
    parametric saidI just eat healthy whole foods, and try not to freak out. Have you tried that? You know, just eating healthy and relaxing?


    I only eat deep fried foods and candy. That's why I need supplements.
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    Apr 23, 2012 7:30 PM GMT
    I generally take creatine DURING my excersize (They say to take it in the morning AND before excersize) and I've seen great results with it. My favorite brand of Creatine is the MuscleTech Cell-Tech Hardcore Pro-Series (I get it in Fruit Punch Flavor). I feel a great difference in the amount of lean mass I am gaining from this product and the taste is phenomenal (it's like drinking juice) not to mention it's a really good energy booster during excersizes.

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    Apr 24, 2012 3:09 AM GMT
    GERGIN saidI generally take creatine DURING my excersize (They say to take it in the morning AND before excersize) and I've seen great results with it. My favorite brand of Creatine is the MuscleTech Cell-Tech Hardcore Pro-Series (I get it in Fruit Punch Flavor). I feel a great difference in the amount of lean mass I am gaining from this product and the taste is phenomenal (it's like drinking juice) not to mention it's a really good energy booster during excersizes.



    Does it have sugar in it as a sweetener? ie Fructose, Sucrose or Dextrose?

    and if so how much per serving
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    Apr 24, 2012 3:19 AM GMT
    beneful1 said
    GERGIN saidI generally take creatine DURING my excersize (They say to take it in the morning AND before excersize) and I've seen great results with it. My favorite brand of Creatine is the MuscleTech Cell-Tech Hardcore Pro-Series (I get it in Fruit Punch Flavor). I feel a great difference in the amount of lean mass I am gaining from this product and the taste is phenomenal (it's like drinking juice) not to mention it's a really good energy booster during excersizes.



    Does it have sugar in it as a sweetener? ie Fructose, Sucrose or Dextrose?

    and if so how much per serving


    Just go on gnc.com and search for the products supplement facts.
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    Apr 24, 2012 3:29 AM GMT
    parametric saidI just eat healthy whole foods, and try not to freak out. Have you tried that? You know, just eating healthy and relaxing?


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    Apr 24, 2012 4:10 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Hun, would you be a dear and post the various peer reviewed journals you've read online?

    Link us!



    Mmmmmhmmmmm...no comment.

    parametric saidI just eat healthy whole foods, and try not to freak out. Have you tried that? You know, just eating healthy and relaxing?


    I do that too...but sometimes you feel you just wanna hurry up and get to the next level. I'm pretty much in the grocery store every friggin day.

    And I STILL forgot to get bread, aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh
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    Apr 24, 2012 4:22 AM GMT
    musclehuntr saidAs knowledgable as I am about most supplements, I'm endlessly confused by the different types of creatine. Isn't CMH the kind that has you running to the bathroom for your dear life?


    The increase in urination is more because of the extra water you should drink when taking creatine than a side effect of the creatine itself.
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    Apr 24, 2012 4:41 AM GMT
    Tallathlete24 said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Hun, would you be a dear and post the various peer reviewed journals you've read online?

    Link us!



    Mmmmmhmmmmm...no comment.

    parametric saidI just eat healthy whole foods, and try not to freak out. Have you tried that? You know, just eating healthy and relaxing?


    I do that too...but sometimes you feel you just wanna hurry up and get to the next level. I'm pretty much in the grocery store every friggin day.

    And I STILL forgot to get bread, aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh


    Best RJ response I have ever read : ) So TRUE!
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    Apr 27, 2012 5:32 AM GMT
    musclehuntr said
    parametric saidI just eat healthy whole foods, and try not to freak out. Have you tried that? You know, just eating healthy and relaxing?


    I only eat deep fried foods and candy. That's why I need supplements.
    You should try some chocolate and ice cream. That's good too.
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    Apr 27, 2012 6:08 AM GMT
    I believe with all creatine supplements it is important to drink plenty of water while taking it, otherwise the effects not be seen as creatine requires extra intake of water to work properly. I have heard also that monohydrate is more effective type.
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    Jul 12, 2012 5:05 AM GMT
    I'm gonna stop using it. Having bad side affects, like high blood pressure.

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    Oct 28, 2012 8:05 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    track_boi said

    If you could make this thread as productive as possible and only post credible literature on creatine.

    thanks guys


    Hun, would you be a dear and post the various peer reviewed journals you've read online?

    Link us!



    Awesome tattoos. Ok sorry to hijack the tread.

    Creatine MH is definitely the way to go and your should look for CREAPURE as the source IMO. Creapure has all excess sodium removed. Obviously as earlier stated there are going to be individuals that have personal preferences or might see better results with something else. It should also is one of the most important supplements to take especially if you are younger, extremely active, have a fast metabolism etc.

    Two types of creatine I would recommend to anyone

    PPN Creatine (uses creapure)
    Universal Nutrition creatine powder (not creapure but still one of the best on the market)

    Universal Nutrition is probably my favorite because for starters they are a very reputable company with 5 star reviews and secondly you CAN'T beat their prices!

    As with everything you should be drinking lots of water to get maximum effects.
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    Oct 28, 2012 8:27 AM GMT
    parametric saidI just eat healthy whole foods, and try not to freak out. Have you tried that? You know, just eating healthy and relaxing?


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    Oct 28, 2012 10:05 AM GMT
    This page has one of the most in depth discussions of about every aspect you can think of in regards to creatine and references nearly 400 studies with complete information. Many of the references are linked to the actual study at the bottom. A great resource for those interested.


    http://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/
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    Oct 28, 2012 11:03 AM GMT
    Stuttershock said
    track_boi saidI'll keep it simple. My research has led me to conclude that I should be taking creatine mono-hydrate over its ethyl ester, hydrochloride and kre-alkalyne counterparts based on various peer reviewed journals and other studies available online.

    Mono-hydrate is convenient,cheap, accessible and most of all CMH seems to be the most effective.

    If you could make this thread as productive as possible and only post credible literature on creatine.

    thanks guys


    Well could you please post links to the studies you read?


    This is the internet. Sources are not needed. You should take his opinion as fact. Don't you understand how this place works????icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 28, 2012 11:18 AM GMT
    mouillepoint saidI'm gonna stop using it. Having bad side affects, like high blood pressure.



    Ditto. I liked what it did for my bod, but I too, started having hypertension and PVCs. Not cool at all.
  • Medjai

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    Oct 28, 2012 9:57 PM GMT
    Wow... 25 replies and only two links.

    I'm curious about variations in metabolic pathways as well. Since creatine is just an amino acid derivative, I'd expect a consistent structure, with variations in what salt it forms, or what ions in solution or the like. But there has to be something that has significant impact that I'm not seeing.
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    Oct 29, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidYou can read a bit about the differences on Bodybuilding.com: http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/creatine.html

    We use the ester. http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/sf/ce.html ...at $0.08 a serving, cost isn't a factor. My understanding is that the ester is more bio-available.




    In general CEE appears to be less effect Creatine Monohydrate and produces lower levels of muscle and plasma creatine. There may be a few situations where non-responders to creatine monohydrate may possibly benefit from CEE. But in general the studies indicate that CEE benefits are equal to placebo. The bottom line is if it works for someone that is great, but most people will not find much benefit from it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19228401