Bumbling Idiots

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    Apr 23, 2012 11:38 AM GMT
    Have you ever met a very good looking man, with pecks and abs of steel, and once you start talking to him, you realize what a dumb fuck he is?

    This happened to me once. A perfect guy, total dating material.
    Turns out the only messages he could convey were racist remarks and how he looked like a monkey when he puffed up his cheeks.

    Has anyone had this problem? I find that a lot of guys are secretly this dumb, but play it off with good looks.
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:06 PM GMT
    Happens to the best of us. You aren't alone.

    A few exist here.
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:23 PM GMT
    Counterfeit_Jock saidHave you ever met a very good looking man, with pecks and abs of steel, and once you start talking to him, you realize what a dumb fuck he is?

    This happened to me once. A perfect guy, total dating material.
    Turns out the only messages he could convey were racist remarks and how he looked like a monkey when he puffed up his cheeks.

    Has anyone had this problem? I find that a lot of guys are secretly this dumb, but play it off with good looks.
    Don't be deceived! icon_evil.gif


    Don't be disappointed since the only reason you approached him in the first place is for his pecs and abs of steel(i.e., his good looks). Good for him, anyway. Guys who can't see what a guy is really like because he isn't fulfilling some criteria on a list are good to avoid.
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:26 PM GMT
    So long as they are a nice guy and we can have fun together I don't see why it would be a problem. But I'm not the sharpest knife in the tool shed, so maybe I'm biased.
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    Apr 23, 2012 12:27 PM GMT
    Wow.. seriously?

    If they're capable of speech it's a bonus ;)

    I think you're setting your standards waay too high ;)
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    Apr 23, 2012 1:12 PM GMT
    Counterfeit_Jock saidHas anyone had this problem? I find that a lot of guys are secretly this dumb, but play it off with good looks.
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    Yes, but it helped to remind me their are different kinds of dumb, and different kinds of smarts you can find in that abs-of-steel package.

    I had an LTR with such a guy. I couldn't believe my own dumbness, as in luck, to have snared this hunk. And I remember the first time I danced with him, bare-chested in a gay club where that was common, I actually got dizzy and weak-kneed as I snuggled my face into a chiseled chest that was like padded stone.

    But he couldn't hold an enlightened conversation on most topics, and confessed he wasn't too smart, even said he had a low IQ. Except, he had taught himself carpentry & painting skills to totally renovate 2 houses he owned, personally moving whole walls and ceilings, laying new floors, no simple do-it-yourself tasks. And his artistic taste was remarkably sophisticated, with a clear gay flair to it that avoided being eccentric.

    He was also an actor, on hiatus when I met him, plus he had his own cable TV show, and made his own videos. And, I learned still later, a ton of money he'd earned himself, that he managed very cleverly, allowing him to own 3 homes without mortgages in 2 States.

    Yeah, maybe he couldn't follow me in some philosophical discussion, his world knowledge and political awareness nonexistent, and his interests were remarkably simple, even childlike. But he had practical smarts in different ways that allowed him to be more successful than me, and very much richer. So which of us was really the less bright?

    I admired him for what he accomplished, and would never call him dumb. Maybe the OP's guy is the same way, with hidden & remarkable talents that weren't readily apparent? In some cases only time will reveal them. (Although the racist remarks, if true, would be a deal breaker for me)
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    Apr 23, 2012 1:26 PM GMT
    He had pecks? Of what? Pickled peppers???
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    Apr 23, 2012 1:28 PM GMT
    Stuttershock saidSo long as they are a nice guy and we can have fun together I don't see why it would be a problem. I'm not the sharpest knife in the tool shed, so maybe I'm biased.


    Definitely this! The racist remarks are a definite no-no though.
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    Apr 23, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    I guess it depends on what you mean as " dumb". If you mean not college educated and just works in a physical labor kinda job as dumb; then I wouldn't agree as I believe that College isn't for everyone( even tho I went and graduated). The racist remarks are Lame agreed. I also think that that to many, it seems that " book smarts" is looked highly upon and street smarts is not looked upon in the same light. I remember my 1st year in college being in a friends SUV and getting a flat tire; out of the 8 people in the car I was the only one ever taught how to change a tire. Everyone in that SUV was really "smart" so goes to show that " Smart/ dumb" is relative. icon_cool.gif
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    Apr 23, 2012 3:06 PM GMT
    Caslon18453 saidHe had pecks? Of what? Pickled peppers???


    Whoops OP...slight bumble there.
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    Apr 23, 2012 3:17 PM GMT
    I`ve met a few over the years, though I agree, some have hidden talents that you only discover with time and patience.

    I knew an ex-military guy once, great body, lean, muscled, fantastic eyes and smile, the lot. But not much seemed to be going on in his mind, couldn`t really have a conversation beyond his career, totally uninterested in the larger world, etc.

    After a while of knowing him, though, he told me about his life and it was full of setbacks and trauma, yet he maintained an infectious optimism about himself, life, people,etc. I greatly admired him for that.

    You shouldn`t judge guys too quickly or shallowly.
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    Apr 23, 2012 3:21 PM GMT
    pfff. IQ is overrated. I am quite expecting my partner to be less intelligent than me and I´m fine with that.
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    Apr 23, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
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    Counterfeit_Jock saidHave you ever met a very good looking man, with pecks and abs of steel, and once you start talking to him, you realize what a dumb fuck he is?

    This happened to me once. A perfect guy, total dating material.
    Turns out the only messages he could convey were racist remarks and how he looked like a monkey when he puffed up his cheeks.

    Has anyone had this problem? I find that a lot of guys are secretly this dumb, but play it off with good looks.
    Don't be deceived! icon_evil.gif


    Don't be disappointed since the only reason you approached him in the first place is for his pecs and abs of steel(i.e., his good looks). Good for him, anyway. Guys who can't see what a guy is really like because he isn't fulfilling some criteria on a list are good to avoid.


    + 1 and what qualifies another guy to think himself to be intellectually superior? I get what you're saying, but dig a bit deeper, people rarely aren't how they appear on first meeting, I've been really surprised in the past but that only came from hanging out with the guy a bit more. But if his monkey faces aren't endearing, move on!! ;)
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:16 PM GMT
    I'd have to have a larger sample size of the "abs of steel" dates. But I certainly experienced what you're talking about dating women.

    On the other hand, there's a remote possibility that the "dumb-act" is part of a ploy to discreetly dump an unwanted date.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:27 PM GMT
    mindgarden said

    On the other hand, there's a remote possibility that the "dumb-act" is part of a ploy to discreetly dump an unwanted date.


    That's what I assumed, but I realized that this wasn't the case. You have to be a fucking moron to hate and discriminate against all black people just because some don't tip you well at your restaurant job.

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    Apr 23, 2012 4:28 PM GMT
    Animus said

    Don't be disappointed since the only reason you approached him in the first place is for his pecs and abs of steel(i.e., his good looks). Good for him, anyway. Guys who can't see what a guy is really like because he isn't fulfilling some criteria on a list are good to avoid.


    I approached him because he looked good, don't we all want a sexy guy?
    Good for him? He would have called you a tar baby.

    So, good for me for recognizing a bad person when I see one.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:29 PM GMT
    Counterfeit_Jock said

    This happened to me once. A perfect guy, total dating material.


    Superficial much? Usually "dating material" includes conversation, intellect, etc. Not much "abs and pecs of steel".

    And, frankly, sometimes a lack of stimulating conversation is due to a lack of interest. icon_confused.gif
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
    Stuttershock saidSo long as they are a nice guy and we can have fun together I don't see why it would be a problem. But I'm not the sharpest knife in the tool shed, so maybe I'm biased.


    Honestly, I wouldn't be able to have fun with a practical retard, simply because fun for me is deep, intellectual conversation... Followed by sex.
    I can't have fun with someone who can't think philosophically; the sex would just be boring. Plus, a lot of dumb guys don't know what to do in the bedroom. Just saying.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:32 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said(Although the racist remarks, if true, would be a deal breaker for me)



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    Seriously, go away. You really do obsess over that Art guy. Give people a break. Everyone is a hypocrite.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:33 PM GMT
    ECNAZ said
    Counterfeit_Jock said

    This happened to me once. A perfect guy, total dating material.


    Superficial much? Usually "dating material" includes conversation, intellect, etc.

    And, frankly, sometimes a lack of stimulating conversation is due to a lack of interest. icon_confused.gif


    *This! Well I was thinking it, wasn't going to say it....lol

    The OP might have just been talking about looks, but you would hope
    a positive into would be based on more than looks alone.

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    Apr 23, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    Totally HOT, and STUPID... my favourite kind of man... LOL.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:38 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said
    ECNAZ said
    Counterfeit_Jock said

    This happened to me once. A perfect guy, total dating material.


    Superficial much? Usually "dating material" includes conversation, intellect, etc.

    And, frankly, sometimes a lack of stimulating conversation is due to a lack of interest. icon_confused.gif


    *This! Well I was thinking it, wasn't going to say it....lol

    The OP might have just been talking about looks, but you would hope
    a positive into would be based on more than looks alone.



    The thing is, he tried keeping up with conversations, but just said weird and stupid things.
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    Apr 23, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
    Counterfeit_Jock saidYou have to be a fucking moron to hate and discriminate against all black people just because some don't tip you well at your restaurant job.


    Right on. And I hate it when bartenders act silly with me because they think i don't tip. And then when I do, they are utterly surprised. Like 1st of all...I have class and integrity. I deal with people who make 6 figures, are multimillionaires...I am not fixing to hold back on a few dollars.

    However, aren't you the same guy that referred to coco butter as Black girl lotion??? That was kinda...

    Counterfeit_Jock said
    This happened to me once. A perfect guy, total dating material.
    Turns out the only messages he could convey were racist remarks and how he looked like a monkey when he puffed up his cheeks.


    You live in FLORIDA. I'd think you'd be used to meeting those types already. I did it for 21 years.
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    Apr 23, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    So,the OP has called this guy a "bumbling idiot", "a practical retarded", "stupid", "weird", "racist", "dumb", and "a fucking moron".

    Anyone who uses these types of words and descriptions to describe someone else from an innocent date has an disillusioned air of superiority. Ok, the racist remarks are uncalled for, I'll give you that. But this is only your side of the story. Waiters rely primarily on tips to survive and pay bills. If all or the majority of black customers this guy gets don't tip well, his remarks probably come from a place of frustration and feeling unappreciated for his service. But you probably didn't take the time to try to find this out, you just made your judgement.

    I'd really love to hear what this guy had to say about you. And as I said earlier, maybe his lack of conversation was purely a lack of interest in a pretentious person like you.
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    Apr 23, 2012 8:11 PM GMT
    Counterfeit_Jock said
    Stuttershock saidSo long as they are a nice guy and we can have fun together I don't see why it would be a problem. But I'm not the sharpest knife in the tool shed, so maybe I'm biased.


    Honestly, I wouldn't be able to have fun with a practical retard, simply because fun for me is deep, intellectual conversation... Followed by sex.
    I can't have fun with someone who can't think philosophically; the sex would just be boring. Plus, a lot of dumb guys don't know what to do in the bedroom. Just saying.


    If you couldn't date a big dumb lug then that is your prerogative. Chances are there are others who can appreciate what he has to offer. So don't be upset that others don't share your passions, odds are that there are people out there much smarter than yourself and I doubt you would appreciate them turning their noses up at you.