Huntsman urges third party may help bring the Republicans around to reality.

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    Apr 23, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    "Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big, bold, visionary stuff," Huntsman said during the February interview with MSNBC that got him disinvited from the RNC fundraiser. "I think we're going to have problems politically until we get some sort of third-party movement or some alternative voice out there that can put forward new ideas."

    Huntsman also spoke on Sunday about his presidential candidacy, revealing that he was less than impressed by his fellow candidates when he attended his first debate in August.

    "Is this the best we could do?" Huntsman said he asked himself.

    He also joked that his wife forbade him to pander to the party's far-right contingent ahead of Iowa's caucuses, which likely hurt him with conservative voters in the Hawkeye State.

    “She said if you pandered, if you sign any of those damn pledges, I’ll leave you,” Huntsman said. "So I had to say I believe in science -- and people on stage look at you quizzically as though you're ... an oddball."

    He also criticized the Republican candidates' foreign policy stances, particularly in regard to China.

    "I don’t know what world these people are living in," Huntsman said.

    Huntsman spoke candidly about his party's flaws, lamenting the Republican National Committee's decision to rescind an invitation to a major fundraising event after Huntsman called for a third-party candidate to enter the race.

    This from 'Buzz Feed's" Zeke Miller


    What do you think, do we need a third party ?

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    Apr 23, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
    realifedad said"Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big, bold, visionary stuff," Huntsman said during the February interview with MSNBC that got him disinvited from the RNC fundraiser. "I think we're going to have problems politically until we get some sort of third-party movement or some alternative voice out there that can put forward new ideas."

    Huntsman also spoke on Sunday about his presidential candidacy, revealing that he was less than impressed by his fellow candidates when he attended his first debate in August.

    "Is this the best we could do?" Huntsman said he asked himself.

    He also joked that his wife forbade him to pander to the party's far-right contingent ahead of Iowa's caucuses, which likely hurt him with conservative voters in the Hawkeye State.

    “She said if you pandered, if you sign any of those damn pledges, I’ll leave you,” Huntsman said. "So I had to say I believe in science -- and people on stage look at you quizzically as though you're ... an oddball."

    He also criticized the Republican candidates' foreign policy stances, particularly in regard to China.

    "I don’t know what world these people are living in," Huntsman said.

    Huntsman spoke candidly about his party's flaws, lamenting the Republican National Committee's decision to rescind an invitation to a major fundraising event after Huntsman called for a third-party candidate to enter the race.

    This from 'Buzz Feed's" Zeke Miller


    What do you think, do we need a third party ?

    ABSOLUTELY!
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    Apr 23, 2012 6:27 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    realifedad said"Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big, bold, visionary stuff," Huntsman said during the February interview with MSNBC that got him disinvited from the RNC fundraiser. "I think we're going to have problems politically until we get some sort of third-party movement or some alternative voice out there that can put forward new ideas."

    Huntsman also spoke on Sunday about his presidential candidacy, revealing that he was less than impressed by his fellow candidates when he attended his first debate in August.

    "Is this the best we could do?" Huntsman said he asked himself.

    He also joked that his wife forbade him to pander to the party's far-right contingent ahead of Iowa's caucuses, which likely hurt him with conservative voters in the Hawkeye State.

    “She said if you pandered, if you sign any of those damn pledges, I’ll leave you,” Huntsman said. "So I had to say I believe in science -- and people on stage look at you quizzically as though you're ... an oddball."


    He also criticized the Republican candidates' foreign policy stances, particularly in regard to China.

    "I don’t know what world these people are living in," Huntsman said.

    Huntsman spoke candidly about his party's flaws, lamenting the Republican National Committee's decision to rescind an invitation to a major fundraising event after Huntsman called for a third-party candidate to enter the race.

    This from 'Buzz Feed's" Zeke Miller


    What do you think, do we need a third party ?

    ABSOLUTELY!


    Does anybody have the address for the esteemed Ms. Huntsman?

    I need to send that awesome lady a dozen roses.
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    Apr 23, 2012 6:31 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark said
    realifedad said"Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big, bold, visionary stuff," Huntsman said during the February interview with MSNBC that got him disinvited from the RNC fundraiser. "I think we're going to have problems politically until we get some sort of third-party movement or some alternative voice out there that can put forward new ideas."

    Huntsman also spoke on Sunday about his presidential candidacy, revealing that he was less than impressed by his fellow candidates when he attended his first debate in August.

    "Is this the best we could do?" Huntsman said he asked himself.

    He also joked that his wife forbade him to pander to the party's far-right contingent ahead of Iowa's caucuses, which likely hurt him with conservative voters in the Hawkeye State.

    “She said if you pandered, if you sign any of those damn pledges, I’ll leave you,” Huntsman said. "So I had to say I believe in science -- and people on stage look at you quizzically as though you're ... an oddball."


    He also criticized the Republican candidates' foreign policy stances, particularly in regard to China.

    "I don’t know what world these people are living in," Huntsman said.

    Huntsman spoke candidly about his party's flaws, lamenting the Republican National Committee's decision to rescind an invitation to a major fundraising event after Huntsman called for a third-party candidate to enter the race.

    This from 'Buzz Feed's" Zeke Miller


    What do you think, do we need a third party ?

    ABSOLUTELY!


    Does anybody have the address for the esteemed Ms. Huntsman?

    I need to send that awesome lady a dozen roses.
    Ill give ya the money to buy em!
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    Apr 23, 2012 6:44 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
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    TropicalMark said
    realifedad said"Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big, bold, visionary stuff," Huntsman said during the February interview with MSNBC that got him disinvited from the RNC fundraiser. "I think we're going to have problems politically until we get some sort of third-party movement or some alternative voice out there that can put forward new ideas."

    Huntsman also spoke on Sunday about his presidential candidacy, revealing that he was less than impressed by his fellow candidates when he attended his first debate in August.

    "Is this the best we could do?" Huntsman said he asked himself.

    He also joked that his wife forbade him to pander to the party's far-right contingent ahead of Iowa's caucuses, which likely hurt him with conservative voters in the Hawkeye State.

    “She said if you pandered, if you sign any of those damn pledges, I’ll leave you,” Huntsman said. "So I had to say I believe in science -- and people on stage look at you quizzically as though you're ... an oddball."


    He also criticized the Republican candidates' foreign policy stances, particularly in regard to China.

    "I don’t know what world these people are living in," Huntsman said.

    Huntsman spoke candidly about his party's flaws, lamenting the Republican National Committee's decision to rescind an invitation to a major fundraising event after Huntsman called for a third-party candidate to enter the race.

    This from 'Buzz Feed's" Zeke Miller


    What do you think, do we need a third party ?

    ABSOLUTELY!


    Does anybody have the address for the esteemed Ms. Huntsman?

    I need to send that awesome lady a dozen roses.
    Ill give ya the money to buy em!


    Yep...she not only gets it, but she would easily be the classiest FLOTUS since Jackie Kennedy.

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    Apr 23, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
    I know one thing, after reading this article, I sure have a lot higher respect for Huntsman, with a woman like that behind him he's got several aces to play.
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    Apr 23, 2012 7:48 PM GMT
    Jon Huntsman is absolutely correct. This is not the party of Lincoln, Eisenhower and Nixon. The GOP has gone off the deep end and now caters only homophobes, racists, objectivists and other fringe characters who frighten all decent Americans.

    It's good news for President Obama's re-election team but bad news for Americans, who are in desperate need of a reasonable, responsible opposition party.
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    Apr 23, 2012 9:17 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidJon Huntsman is absolutely correct. This is not the party of Lincoln, Eisenhower and Nixon. The GOP has gone off the deep end and now caters only homophobes, racists, objectivists and other fringe characters who frighten all decent Americans.

    It's good news for President Obama's re-election team but bad news for Americans, who are in desperate need of a reasonable, responsible opposition party.





    We certainly agree on this, without well reasoned challenges to any party in office the American public suffers. So far the Republicans haven't been acting from reason, they have been acting from the standpoint of anything to get Obama out of their white house. That's why they became the party of no.
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    Apr 23, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
    It's a shame really. I quite like Huntsman and he would have given your Prez a royal run for the money.

    ..as for Mrs Huntsman, what a gal!

    "He also joked that his wife forbade him to pander to the party's far-right contingent ahead of Iowa's caucuses, which likely hurt him with conservative voters in the Hawkeye State.

    “She said if you pandered, if you sign any of those damn pledges, I’ll leave you,” Huntsman said. "So I had to say I believe in science -- and people on stage look at you quizzically as though you're ... an oddball."

    I hope a few here that think pandering to bigots is de rigeur will take notice.

    -Doug
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    Apr 23, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
    Off with his HEAD!!!
    That Big Tent You Were Talkin about? ... LOL

    At New York City’s 92nd Street Y on Sunday Night, Jon Huntsman compared his treatment by the Republican Party to what happens in Communist China. He was disinvited from a Florida fundraiser, Huntsman said, after he called for a third party in March.

    “This is what they do in China on party matters if you talk off script,” said Huntsman

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/jon-huntsman-and-the-grand-old-communist-party/2012/04/23/gIQA5B7JcT_blog.html
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    Apr 24, 2012 12:20 AM GMT

    Another thing that sets him apart from his fellow Republicans is that he puts his country first. He didn't hesitate at all to accept the ambassadorship to China when asked by Pres. Obama. He took it as a call to serve his country with no regard to politics.
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    Apr 24, 2012 12:26 AM GMT
    realifedad said
    What do you think, do we need a third party ?



    You bet your conspiracy theory luvin' ASS we do! If Jon Huntsman ran for ANYTHING he would get my vote, and there has never been a better time for a 3rd Party to come along and kick those loony losers running our country (on BOTH sides of the aisle) right outta town
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    Apr 24, 2012 12:39 AM GMT
    It will never happen.

    Simply because our political system has entrenched itself into the two-party paradigm so deeply in the many states - the state level parties decide who gets ballot access, and the game is rigged against third parties with the exception of states that have fusion voting (like New York State).

    But even then, the third party vote is either a spoiler or a maker for whichever of the two major parties they are most ideologically closer to.
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    Apr 24, 2012 12:45 AM GMT
    AlphaTrigger saidIt will never happen.

    Simply because our political system has entrenched itself into the two-party paradigm so deeply in the many states - the state level parties decide who gets ballot access, and the game is rigged against third parties with the exception of states that have fusion voting (like New York State).

    But even then, the third party vote is either a spoiler or a maker for whichever of the two major parties they are most ideologically closer to.



    It would take a revolution of sorts, with masses of Americans standing up and saying enough is enough and demanding that a viable 3rd party be on every ballot. I'd like to see someone like Jon Huntsman make a run at something like this with possibly someone like former democrat Senator Evan Bayh as his running mate
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    AlphaTrigger saidIt will never happen.

    Simply because our political system has entrenched itself into the two-party paradigm so deeply in the many states - the state level parties decide who gets ballot access, and the game is rigged against third parties with the exception of states that have fusion voting (like New York State).

    But even then, the third party vote is either a spoiler or a maker for whichever of the two major parties they are most ideologically closer to.



    It would take a revolution of sorts, with masses of Americans standing up and saying enough is enough and demanding that a viable 3rd party be on every ballot. I'd like to see someone like Jon Huntsman make a run at something like this with possibly someone like former democrat Senator Evan Bayh as his running mate



    Not necessarily. If Huntsman had made it and then won an election the far-right xtian kooks would likely flee to another party. This, I believe, is currently happening in Alberta with the Wildrose Party.
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    Apr 24, 2012 3:50 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]CuriousJockAZ said[/cite]
    realifedad said
    What do you think, do we need a third party ?



    You bet your conspiracy theory luvin' ASS we do! If Jon Huntsman ran for ANYTHING he would get my vote, and there has never been a better time for a 3rd Party to come along and kick those loony losers running our country (on BOTH sides of the aisle) right outta town[/quote)


    Well on this we agree again !!! So much so that I'm giving you a 'pass' on that 'C' word, I rather liked how you slipped that one in. You cunning republican you !!!

    By the way, Ron Paul and Huntsman should get together.
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    Apr 24, 2012 2:37 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    AlphaTrigger saidIt will never happen.

    Simply because our political system has entrenched itself into the two-party paradigm so deeply in the many states - the state level parties decide who gets ballot access, and the game is rigged against third parties with the exception of states that have fusion voting (like New York State).

    But even then, the third party vote is either a spoiler or a maker for whichever of the two major parties they are most ideologically closer to.



    It would take a revolution of sorts, with masses of Americans standing up and saying enough is enough and demanding that a viable 3rd party be on every ballot. I'd like to see someone like Jon Huntsman make a run at something like this with possibly someone like former democrat Senator Evan Bayh as his running mate



    Not necessarily. If Huntsman had made it and then won an election the far-right xtian kooks would likely flee to another party. This, I believe, is currently happening in Alberta with the Wildrose Party.



    ....and here's the outcome:

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/tories-majority-alberta-bozo-outbreaks-cost-wildrose-032959197.html

    The Religious Right's bigotry got exposed without fiscal and moderate Conservatives to pander to them and excuse them and (as a usual unfortunate but obvious result from what I see in the US) get lumped in with them.

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    Apr 24, 2012 2:47 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    AlphaTrigger saidIt will never happen.

    Simply because our political system has entrenched itself into the two-party paradigm so deeply in the many states - the state level parties decide who gets ballot access, and the game is rigged against third parties with the exception of states that have fusion voting (like New York State).

    But even then, the third party vote is either a spoiler or a maker for whichever of the two major parties they are most ideologically closer to.



    It would take a revolution of sorts, with masses of Americans standing up and saying enough is enough and demanding that a viable 3rd party be on every ballot. I'd like to see someone like Jon Huntsman make a run at something like this with possibly someone like former democrat Senator Evan Bayh as his running mate



    Not necessarily. If Huntsman had made it and then won an election the far-right xtian kooks would likely flee to another party. This, I believe, is currently happening in Alberta with the Wildrose Party.



    ....and here's the outcome:

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/tories-majority-alberta-bozo-outbreaks-cost-wildrose-032959197.html

    The Religious Right's bigotry got exposed without fiscal and moderate Conservatives to pander to them and excuse them and (as a usual unfortunate but obvious result from what I see in the US) get lumped in with them.

    Congratulations!