Reasons not to be gay

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    Aug 04, 2007 5:49 AM GMT
    All of us at one time or another have heard of reasons why not or even how not to be gay. I'm curious if you remember any of these.

    You can also mention a counter argument, if you have one, but the point is to collect some of the thinking or statements that are deployed against being or "practicing" gay.
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    Aug 04, 2007 12:54 PM GMT
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    but its a good thing I dont believe in that crap. Like any rational person, I worship nature, fairies, and believe in re-incarnation.
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    Aug 04, 2007 1:53 PM GMT
    It's just not right lol......hear that one alot and I'm like who says.
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    Aug 04, 2007 1:56 PM GMT
    I came out at 14, and my father was really cool about it, but he said I should be really sure, because gay men often lead very lonely lives and tend not to form relationships.
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    Aug 04, 2007 2:00 PM GMT
    Well, if you weren't gay, you wouldn't have entirely unrealistic fantasies about Chizzad which can never be fulfilled, never, ever, and end up wondering why the world is such a cruel and heartless place where you find out that everything you've ever dreamed about exists but you can't have it so you eat a bunch of high-calorie comfort foods which make you unattractive to anyone else who might fill the black void of emotional need you call your heart. . .

    Or maybe that's just me.

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    Aug 04, 2007 2:25 PM GMT
    "Reparative therapy for male homosexuals"

    Not.
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    Aug 04, 2007 2:44 PM GMT
    I was in the reparative therapy paradigm for 25 years, talking to various pastors and therapists and reading all the books. The premise is that you are not, in fact, gay. Every man is born heterosexual and is turned gay by abuse, or a distant father, or a clinging mother, or some combination of the three--which, fortunately for me, I had.

    So, the reason not to be gay is because you are really straight.

    And all I really want to do with Chizzad is toss around a football with him. In a manly way. Naked. Covered in sweat. And then tackle him. Oh sweet goodness how I'd tackle him. . .

    But underneath it all, I'm really straight.

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    Aug 04, 2007 2:55 PM GMT
    Here are a few I've heard...

    "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" -The late Jerry Falwell

    (All's well that's not Falwell)

    "Gay love is not natural."

    (What part of love is not natural?)

    "It goes against the teachings of the church"

    (Explain the pedifile priests then...)"

    "You won't be happy."

    (and I was happy being straight...oh right, bring back my depression so I can be straight again)










  • MikemikeMike

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    Aug 04, 2007 2:57 PM GMT
    Reasons not to be gay:

    1) Job advancement!

    2) Hard to tell the family.

    3) For me, I still have sex with woman.

    4) Main reason I don't tell people is because I wouldn't describe my sexuality in the first ten words. Plus it's my business. my choice.

    5) Life was easier when I was married to a woman.

    this can go on and on, but I have accepted my feelings toward one man in particular and the feeling is mutual.

    life is good!!
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    Aug 04, 2007 4:25 PM GMT
    Growing up there was only one reason not to be gay: I'd go to hell. Later on I heard the reason colmdublin mentioned: gay men live alone and die alone.
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    Aug 04, 2007 7:16 PM GMT
    Colm, I heard the exact same argument from my mother....she said I'd be leading a lonely life, and that I'd have to confine myself to the "gay ghettos", because there's no way I'd be able to live in the "straight" world....they just wouldn't accept me. That, and she was one of those people who thinks that at some point in their lives, all gay men get AIDS....so she brought that up as well....

    Oh, she was a pleasant woman, lol.
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    Aug 04, 2007 7:19 PM GMT
    "You're not gay, you're just shy. Why don't you call that nice girl Xxxxx?"

    {*shudder*}
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    Aug 04, 2007 7:41 PM GMT
    Cmon - I got the same thing from my mother. She was worried that I would live either a solitary life, or one constantly in the shadows and subjected to ridicule.

    A trip out to West Hollywood where she met a few of my friends did a lot to allay those fears. Although I fucked up when I took her to see La Cage aux Folles - she thought I wanted to start cross-dressing! ;)

    Live & learn....

    But it's worth mentioning that she was born in 1910 in western Kentucky - and had I been her contemporary, her fears probably would have been substantially realized.

    J.
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    Aug 04, 2007 8:18 PM GMT
    For me, the biggest reason was that I really wanted the white picket fence and house full of biological kids.

    I still occasionally entertain "what if" thoughts. The fact is that I've found so many gay guys to be such unimpressive people (or maybe I've just been unlucky) that I do think I'd have had an easier time finding compatible dates if I was straight.
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    Aug 04, 2007 8:25 PM GMT
    LOL ... when I first told my dad I was 14 , and he told me : " Well, it's up to you, but REALLY - do you want to be Indianna Jones or Indy's girlfriend. "
    I just have to laugh when I think about it. I think my reply was : " Well, technically speaking, I'd be indy's boyfriend. "
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    Aug 04, 2007 9:49 PM GMT
    " Couldn't I just be with both of them ?" -

    THAT was my RE:

    My poor-poor dad !
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    Aug 04, 2007 11:36 PM GMT
    here was the schools reason: most cases of aids spread through homosexual sex.

    my reply: bullshit, it spreads more rapidly through injection needles and, here was the kicker, HETEROsexual sex. boy did i like doing that school report.


    my mother's reason: you may just be shy around girls, and think that just becaus eyou haven't had many girlfriends.


    my response: bullshit again, i didn't have many girl friends because i rather have a boyfriend. and i'm not shy around girls, most, nearly all of my friends are girls hhmmmm shy?





    no.



  • zakariahzol

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    Aug 05, 2007 12:45 AM GMT
    1. It against nature. Even goat and cat know to select the gender . You should be ashame of yourself
    2. Sodom and Gommorah
    3. This is a social disease from the corrupted, sinful and godless Western countries (USA ...sorry guys)
    4. The sexual organ of male and female are compatible with each other.
    5. Male and female personality compliment one another. Male the provider and female the homemaker.
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    Aug 05, 2007 1:51 AM GMT
    1(It would be so much easier 2(I might be able to stop wondering what it would be like to love someone and be loved in return if it was possible to at least ask a woman for a date(not interested in that)instead of wanting to ask a guy on a date(not possible where I live)
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    Aug 05, 2007 4:03 AM GMT
    my father thinks im in a phase im like no dad its now been 5 years and i harldy ever hear from him but my mother loves the idea of having a gay sona dn my stepfather has been rite by my side as well so i am lucky but i think that being gay is part of 1s live and that they should not expect to have to be skomeone they are not just because somone dont like it and i feel for people who have been pushed away from friend and or family i think that they all have the right to be happy with themselves
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    Aug 05, 2007 4:13 AM GMT
    cuteboi,

    What it that again?

    zak
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    Aug 05, 2007 4:47 AM GMT
    The only reason not to be gay is to buy into the philosophy of self sacrifice, duty and obligation, deny your individual rights to your own life and appeal out of fear to what your friends/family will think who are deaply indoctrinated into the self Sacrificing philosophy of Christianty that is in direct conflict with the American values of Freedom and individual rights.

    Jim
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    Aug 07, 2007 5:01 AM GMT
    So many of the above "reasons" sound so very familiar. When I came out to my mom, she got quiet, and voiced a concern about a lonely life. Which was odd because I came out by telling her I was moving in with my boyfriend. She later admitted to having a "what mistake did I make that led to this" moment before she shook it off and realized that I was just gay, and there WAS no problem. And after the initial monetary shock, she's been amazing.

    But many gay people are asked certain "hard questions" all our lives. I've found that the best way to maintain logical perspective is to redirect the question back to the questioner. For example:


    1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?

    2. When and how did you decide you were a heterosexual?

    3. Is it possible that your heterosexuality is just a phase that you may grow out of?

    4. Is it possible that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?

    5. Do you parents know you are straight? Do your friends and/or roommates know?

    6. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be who you are and keep it quiet?

    7. Why do heterosexuals put so much emphasis on sex?

    8. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to introduce others to their lifestyle?

    9. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexual. Do you consider it wise to expose children to heterosexual teachers?

    10. Just what do men and women do in bed together?

    11. Bearing in mind the current divorce rate, why are there so few stable relationships between heterosexuals?

    12. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?

    13. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?

    14. Would you want your child to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?
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    Aug 08, 2007 10:22 PM GMT
    Italmusc:

    Dude I think you've just had bad luck... or maybe all the cool fags live in Canada. Some of the smartest guys I know are gay. I've met gifted professors, several Olympic athletes, talented artists and actors and many all around awesome people... all gay.

    I've met some SOB's too like everyone elese... but you know... that's like any other population.

    I think "what if" can come from being lonley and disappointed but dude.... grass is always greener. I meet a lot of REALLY unhappy heterosexuals. If you'd been straight, there's no guarantee you'd be happy. You might just wind up unhappy and straight. :)
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    Aug 08, 2007 10:59 PM GMT
    To blend in with the rest of the bland majority. That is, if you're into bland blending.