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    Apr 26, 2012 4:09 PM GMT
    Finally G.M is waking up and start to think about importing Holden models again ..
    The Impala will be replaced by a civilian version of the Holden Caprice PPV (used here in Australia as police cars ) .
    No doubts , Holdens are better built and sometimes engineered that their U.S counterparts .
    Holden Caprice are rear propulsion and will be offered in the U.S with a 6.0 liter small block of the 3.6 liters direct injection V-6 .
    They are thinkins changing the nameplate from Impala to Chevelle , but it is only speculation at this time .

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    Apr 26, 2012 8:50 PM GMT
    neffa saidFinally G.M is waking up and start to think about importing Holden models again ..
    The Impala will be replaced by a civilian version of the Holden Caprice PPV (used here in Australia as police cars ) .
    No doubts , Holdens are better built and sometimes engineered that their U.S counterparts .
    Holden Caprice are rear propulsion and will be offered in the U.S with a 6.0 liter small block of the 3.6 liters direct injection V-6 .
    They are thinkins changing the nameplate from Impala to Chevelle , but it is only speculation at this time .

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    Not correct. All new 2014 PIMPala was introduced at the NYIAS and will be EP-II LWB with the LaCrosse. New PIMPala will also platform share with the XTS. No Chevelle nameplate either as the Malibu was an up market trim level on the Chevelle. And it’s not going to be the LWB Caprice either and instead the SWB Commodore SS on the (semi) new Zeta VF.

    What is likely to be announced, and after all the dick teasing, I’ll believe it when I see it, is a nameplate called the Chevy SS. It’s a direct replacement for the much lamented G8 and will be Gen IV 6 liter and 6.2, so think the G8 GT and GXP.. No V6 (thankfully). No DI Gen V either, unfortunately.
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    Apr 27, 2012 5:15 PM GMT
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    neffa saidFinally G.M is waking up and start to think about importing Holden models again ..
    The Impala will be replaced by a civilian version of the Holden Caprice PPV (used here in Australia as police cars ) .
    No doubts , Holdens are better built and sometimes engineered that their U.S counterparts .
    Holden Caprice are rear propulsion and will be offered in the U.S with a 6.0 liter small block of the 3.6 liters direct injection V-6 .
    They are thinkins changing the nameplate from Impala to Chevelle , but it is only speculation at this time .

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    Not correct. All new 2014 PIMPala was introduced at the NYIAS and will be EP-II LWB with the LaCrosse. New PIMPala will also platform share with the XTS. No Chevelle nameplate either as the Malibu was an up market trim level on the Chevelle. And it’s not going to be the LWB Caprice either and instead the SWB Commodore SS on the (semi) new Zeta VF.

    What is likely to be announced, and after all the dick teasing, I’ll believe it when I see it, is a nameplate called the Chevy SS. It’s a direct replacement for the much lamented G8 and will be Gen IV 6 liter and 6.2, so think the G8 GT and GXP.. No V6 (thankfully). No DI Gen V either, unfortunately.


    The Holden Caprice SWB , is already on police function in Oregon with the with the 6 liters small block....
    From my cousin who works for Holden , there are no plans for now to import the SWB commodore in the U.S ,
    La crosse for that matter will stay FWD ....and will not share the same platform when replaced
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    Apr 27, 2012 5:54 PM GMT
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    neffa saidFinally G.M is waking up and start to think about importing Holden models again ..
    The Impala will be replaced by a civilian version of the Holden Caprice PPV (used here in Australia as police cars ) .
    No doubts , Holdens are better built and sometimes engineered that their U.S counterparts .
    Holden Caprice are rear propulsion and will be offered in the U.S with a 6.0 liter small block of the 3.6 liters direct injection V-6 .
    They are thinkins changing the nameplate from Impala to Chevelle , but it is only speculation at this time .

    [url]HTTP ADDRESS GOES HERE[/url]


    Not correct. All new 2014 PIMPala was introduced at the NYIAS and will be EP-II LWB with the LaCrosse. New PIMPala will also platform share with the XTS. No Chevelle nameplate either as the Malibu was an up market trim level on the Chevelle. And it’s not going to be the LWB Caprice either and instead the SWB Commodore SS on the (semi) new Zeta VF.

    What is likely to be announced, and after all the dick teasing, I’ll believe it when I see it, is a nameplate called the Chevy SS. It’s a direct replacement for the much lamented G8 and will be Gen IV 6 liter and 6.2, so think the G8 GT and GXP.. No V6 (thankfully). No DI Gen V either, unfortunately.


    The Holden Caprice SWB , is already on police function in Oregon with the with the 6 liters small block....
    From my cousin who works for Holden , there are no plans for now to import the SWB commodore in the U.S ,
    La crosse for that matter will stay FWD ....and will not share the same platform when replaced


    Nope. The 9C1 and 9C3 are on the LWB Zeta VE Caprice and based on the previous (currently on sale) Zeta VE . It is NOT the short wheelbase, although they did have a (one) PPV (9C1) based on the G8 GT as a loaner / evaluation PPV in the LAPD three years ago.

    LaCrosse, XTS and 2013 PIMPala are all EP II LWB sharing absolutely nothing with Zeta VE or upcoming Zeta VF.

    The new Chevy RWD sedan (IF it actually happens) ... the direct replacement for the G8 GT and GXP will be on the SWB Zeta VF and share with the Commodore SS-V.
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    Apr 28, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
    Thanks for all those infos , i guess my cousin was wrong or not up to date ..Hehehe....
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    Apr 30, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    I drove a current Chevy Malibu -- a FWD car -- at the Spartanburg BMW facility last week on a one day outing with a European BMW manager. While the Maibu does not have the typical Jpanaese resonance seen in most Japanese cars other than upper end Lexii and Infiniti models, is has an extraordinary low first moment in the firewall and bulkhead behind the rear seat. I do not know what GM calls this platform or whether it is shared with other GM FWD cars.

    If this carelessness is carried into CAdillac's new ATS or whatever it is they call it (we'll know this as soon as the models hit the showrrom as one will be purchased by BMW) Cadillac will prove once again behind the leaders.

    The most troubling aspect of the Maibu to me however, was torque steer in the extreme as well as bump steer and extreme tire nibble. I do not know what the car was shod with other than it rode on 17 inch rims. Give me a CAmry V6 any day or even an Acura in this size range, although I'm not impressed with Acura first moment.
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    Apr 30, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    Does the Spartanburg BMW facility have a Chevy Malibu on the premises as an example of how NOT to design a car? icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 30, 2012 12:38 AM GMT
    Unless they can design a decent body, the Holden's wont sell here. just like last time.
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    Apr 30, 2012 1:59 AM GMT
    conservativejock saidI drove a current Chevy Malibu -- a FWD car -- at the Spartanburg BMW facility last week on a one day outing with a European BMW manager. While the Maibu does not have the typical Jpanaese resonance seen in most Japanese cars other than upper end Lexii and Infiniti models, is has an extraordinary low first moment in the firewall and bulkhead behind the rear seat. I do not know what GM calls this platform or whether it is shared with other GM FWD cars.

    If this carelessness is carried into CAdillac's new ATS or whatever it is they call it (we'll know this as soon as the models hit the showrrom as one will be purchased by BMW) Cadillac will prove once again behind the leaders.

    The most troubling aspect of the Maibu to me however, was torque steer in the extreme as well as bump steer and extreme tire nibble. I do not know what the car was shod with other than it rode on 17 inch rims. Give me a CAmry V6 any day or even an Acura in this size range, although I'm not impressed with Acura first moment.


    WTF are you talking about with "first moment"? First monent of inertia?

    EP I is gone except for the remaining Mailbu and the left over 9-3s ... old platform. The new Bu is on the SWB EP II and the ATS has nothing to do with it as it's the first car on RWD Alpha. As I said above, the XTS, LaCrosse and new PIMPala are on LWB EP II. The Bu you drove, if in fact that actually happened, would have been a daily rental on Firestone Affinity or Goodyear Integrity, neither stellar tires. Torque steer yes, tram rail only if underinflated.
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    Apr 30, 2012 2:02 AM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidUnless they can design a decent body, the Holden's wont sell here. just like last time.


    Monaro dated back to mid 90s. G8, Zeta VE, was all new in 2006 for the SS-V and G8 here in 2008 and then for Gen 5 Camaro in 2010.
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    Apr 30, 2012 9:13 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    conservativejock saidI drove a current Chevy Malibu -- a FWD car -- at the Spartanburg BMW facility last week on a one day outing with a European BMW manager. While the Maibu does not have the typical Jpanaese resonance seen in most Japanese cars other than upper end Lexii and Infiniti models, is has an extraordinary low first moment in the firewall and bulkhead behind the rear seat. I do not know what GM calls this platform or whether it is shared with other GM FWD cars.

    If this carelessness is carried into CAdillac's new ATS or whatever it is they call it (we'll know this as soon as the models hit the showrrom as one will be purchased by BMW) Cadillac will prove once again behind the leaders.

    The most troubling aspect of the Maibu to me however, was torque steer in the extreme as well as bump steer and extreme tire nibble. I do not know what the car was shod with other than it rode on 17 inch rims. Give me a CAmry V6 any day or even an Acura in this size range, although I'm not impressed with Acura first moment.


    WTF are you talking about with "first moment"? First monent of inertia?

    EP I is gone except for the remaining Mailbu and the left over 9-3s ... old platform. The new Bu is on the SWB EP II and the ATS has nothing to do with it as it's the first car on RWD Alpha. As I said above, the XTS, LaCrosse and new PIMPala are on LWB EP II. The Bu you drove, if in fact that actually happened, would have been a daily rental on Firestone Affinity or Goodyear Integrity, neither stellar tires. Torque steer yes, tram rail only if underinflated.


    First moment of vibration. We are speaking of "shaking" after all. So you don't really understand mechanical engineering I take it and therefore venture towards ad hominem attacks on the poster?

    Former GM line worker?
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    May 01, 2012 4:52 AM GMT
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    conservativejock saidI drove a current Chevy Malibu -- a FWD car -- at the Spartanburg BMW facility last week on a one day outing with a European BMW manager. While the Maibu does not have the typical Jpanaese resonance seen in most Japanese cars other than upper end Lexii and Infiniti models, is has an extraordinary low first moment in the firewall and bulkhead behind the rear seat. I do not know what GM calls this platform or whether it is shared with other GM FWD cars.

    If this carelessness is carried into CAdillac's new ATS or whatever it is they call it (we'll know this as soon as the models hit the showrrom as one will be purchased by BMW) Cadillac will prove once again behind the leaders.

    The most troubling aspect of the Maibu to me however, was torque steer in the extreme as well as bump steer and extreme tire nibble. I do not know what the car was shod with other than it rode on 17 inch rims. Give me a CAmry V6 any day or even an Acura in this size range, although I'm not impressed with Acura first moment.


    WTF are you talking about with "first moment"? First monent of inertia?

    EP I is gone except for the remaining Mailbu and the left over 9-3s ... old platform. The new Bu is on the SWB EP II and the ATS has nothing to do with it as it's the first car on RWD Alpha. As I said above, the XTS, LaCrosse and new PIMPala are on LWB EP II. The Bu you drove, if in fact that actually happened, would have been a daily rental on Firestone Affinity or Goodyear Integrity, neither stellar tires. Torque steer yes, tram rail only if underinflated.


    First moment of vibration. We are speaking of "shaking" after all. So you don't really understand mechanical engineering I take it and therefore venture towards ad hominem attacks on the poster?

    Former GM line worker?


    Ad hominem attack? From whom to who? In spite of the hundreds if not thousands of ad hominem attacks that we see on RJ daily, do you even know what one is?

    Are you talking I-4s and second-order harmonic vibration? Primary on even firing is in balance. Are you talking an old Iron Duke or the early Quad 4?

    And who is a former GM line worker? You? Certainly not me living all my life in either Columbus Ohio or West LA as it would be one very long drive.

    Moraine final assembly in Dayton would have been the closest, but that closed before I moved back here, when the production of the GMT360 ended. Southgate B-body was closed before I got to LA. Van Nuys F-body closed not long after.

    I’ll tell you something. Politically, I know we’re basically on the same side of the fence, but the more I read of you, the more full of shit I think you are. So there .... that’s your ad hominem attack.