When do I become a sellout?

  • CarbGoggles

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    Apr 27, 2012 2:19 AM GMT
    I'm not ripped and lean but I am very happy with my body. Recently though I have been struggling with the idea of losing fat. I would like to lose weight but I don't want to do it because society favors ripped physiques. Does that make any sense? I feel like I'd rather never have a six pack than be a sellout and validate all these fad diets and workout plans that suggest that you can't be happy unless you're ripped. Am I alone in this way of thinking?
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    Apr 27, 2012 2:36 AM GMT
    Cutting out inflammatory foods and sugars is all it takes to get ripped (well, along with exercise).
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    Apr 27, 2012 3:08 AM GMT
    I don't understand how getting healthy constitutes as being a sellout.
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    Apr 27, 2012 3:21 AM GMT
    jack228 saidI don't understand how getting healthy constitutes as being a sellout.
    Society (and junk food marketing) teaches us that we should be fat. Going against the grain constitutes a sellout in terms of societal programming. i just tell society to kiss my 6-pack ass.
  • A_1991

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    Apr 27, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
    So you rather not be healthy and be fat and full of health problems down the road? I'm confused! How does being healthy correlate to being a sell out? I think it is the opposite, being fat is being a sellout to your body and society.
  • austex85

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    Apr 27, 2012 3:25 AM GMT
    don't give in! fight the fight!!!
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    Apr 27, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
    austex85 saiddon't give in! fight the fight!!!
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    haha awesome!
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    Apr 27, 2012 4:39 AM GMT
    CarbGoggles saidI'm not ripped and lean but I am very happy with my body. Recently though I have been struggling with the idea of losing fat. I would like to lose weight but I don't want to do it because society favors ripped physiques. Does that make any sense? I feel like I'd rather never have a six pack than be a sellout and validate all these fad diets and workout plans that suggest that you can't be happy unless you're ripped. Am I alone in this way of thinking?


    Doing something just because everyone else is doing it is dumb. However, NOT doing something just because everyone is doing it is equally as dumb - especially something that's beneficial to your health.
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    Apr 27, 2012 4:44 AM GMT
    So the choice is sell out or cop out. Your move.
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    Apr 27, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    Less existential over-analysis, more diet and exercise.
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Apr 27, 2012 6:55 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidLess existential over-analysis, more diet and exercise.


    THIS.
    winner winner chicken dinner.
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    Apr 27, 2012 7:00 AM GMT
    Blackbeltguy said
    Ariodante saidLess existential over-analysis, more diet and exercise.


    THIS.
    winner winner chicken dinner.


    WHERE'S MY CHICKEN I IS HOONGRY
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    Apr 27, 2012 7:10 AM GMT
    6 packs are so mainstream...
  • CarbGoggles

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    Apr 27, 2012 8:33 AM GMT
    A_1991 saidSo you rather not be healthy and be fat and full of health problems down the road? I'm confused! How does being healthy correlate to being a sell out? I think it is the opposite, being fat is being a sellout to your body and society.
    I think you missed the point... Does looking like a cover model equate to health and happiness? Not everybody in life will achieve that no matter how much effort or resources they dedicate to it. Even if they do, so what? Unless you are going to be a cover model, what's the point of trying to look like one? Is it for the purpose of trying to be more attractive to other people? Good job, you just went through great lengths to be more appealing to the eyes of others. Awesome way to live your life, bro. Anyway, yeah you missed the point.
  • CarbGoggles

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    Apr 27, 2012 8:35 AM GMT
    MightyMouse87 said
    CarbGoggles saidI'm not ripped and lean but I am very happy with my body. Recently though I have been struggling with the idea of losing fat. I would like to lose weight but I don't want to do it because society favors ripped physiques. Does that make any sense? I feel like I'd rather never have a six pack than be a sellout and validate all these fad diets and workout plans that suggest that you can't be happy unless you're ripped. Am I alone in this way of thinking?


    Doing something just because everyone else is doing it is dumb. However, NOT doing something just because everyone is doing it is equally as dumb - especially something that's beneficial to your health.

    I KNOW!!! Ughhhh... Sometimes I overanalyze things and it is soooo annoying. I wish I could just be more shallow about things. It would make life more productive I think.
  • CarbGoggles

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    Apr 27, 2012 9:03 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidIf you're happy with your body, as you stated in your original post, then what is the point you are trying to make?

    You look obese by your photos. You could probably stand to lose around fifty pounds just to improve your health. And even then there's no guarantee that you'll have a six pack. But that has nothing to do with looking like a cover model. You'll simply be healthier and will more than likely feel better, that's all.
    I'm pretty sure I do fall in some obese chart on a Dr's wall. Mostly I'm just increasing my cardio in response to pressure from media. Everywhere I look there are ripped dudes and tiny chicks with huge tits. If I were to pose in pictures with such people I would def stick out in a bad way. I'm not doing this for health reasons or for some form of sport/ competition. This is only in response to social/ media influence. It bothers me to know that I'd go as far as plastic surgery to lose weight. However, it would be for no reason other than to conform to the pressure of social media. It all just seems so shallow and morally bankrupt.
  • CarbGoggles

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    Apr 27, 2012 10:02 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    jack228 saidI don't understand how getting healthy constitutes as being a sellout.
    Society (and junk food marketing) teaches us that we should be fat. Going against the grain constitutes a sellout in terms of societal programming. i just tell society to kiss my 6-pack ass.
    I forgot all about this. Till now, the first and only time that I've ever heard of foods classified as "inflammatory" was at work about 6 months ago. I meant to read on it but forgot lol. I can definitely support a change of lifestyle based on avoiding inflammatory foods. It's much less shallow and mindless than just trying to look like a lean mean self-serving puppet.

    I'm reading some articles now and this is absolutely awful. Wow, society is fucked if we need to be avoiding foods containing flour and or sugar. Staying away from soda is easy. Staying away from rice though; yikes... I was raised in Hawaii. Rice is a staple. Oh well, it's for my health and nobody said it would be easy.
    http://www.oprah.com/health/Dr-Perricones-List-of-Pro-Inflammatory-Foods
    http://nutrition.about.com/od/dietsformedicaldisorders/a/antiinflamfood.htm
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    Apr 27, 2012 11:09 AM GMT
    CarbGoggles saidStaying away from rice though; yikes... I was raised in Hawaii. Rice is a staple. Oh well, it's for my health and nobody said it would be easy.


    Inorite? I love local food but I lost fat when I moved back to the mainland, just because. My rice cooker is on most nights but I try to eat smaller portions and to eat more brown rice. I don't think I could ever give it up entirely.
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    Apr 27, 2012 11:11 AM GMT
    Sold Out - and Damn Proud of It!!!!!
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  • CarbGoggles

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    Apr 27, 2012 2:57 PM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidI don't think the OP is arguing for being unhealthy. It tales a certain kind of defensiveness about one's own pursuits to see it that way.

    But you can be healthy and even not overweight without being ripped. What he is questioning is whether the effort required to look like a fitness model is worth it. And that's a personal question. Being a jock---or a RealJock---doesn't require that you devote your life to nothing but lifting. It is a sad fact that, geneticslly, achieving that look may take two or three times the effort from one person as it does for another. Is it reasonable to tell someone he lost the genetic lottery and therefore must expend twice as many hours as i do, or twice the effort, just to achieve what I do with 20 minutes of work each day?

    That, unfortunately, is the attitude of some of our more genetically gifted brethren.
    JP you bitch, thank you! I guess I'd have to talk to people who struggle to keep a fit body and see if it's worth it to them. Talking to somebody who is effortlessly thin would be pointless because they don't understand.
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    Apr 27, 2012 3:05 PM GMT
    I totally get what the OP means. I started working out recently because I want to drop my bf% but part of me is like whats the motivation behind that ?

    Gay men are so image conscious and have such unrealistic expectations put upon them by mainstream gay media/culture. So by working out to achieve a certain physique am I being a sheep and doing it because that's what the media tells me I need to look like ?

    As much as I like to think I'm doing it for myself in the back of my mind I have this voice telling me that I'm doing it primarily to be validated by other people. That makes me very angry at myself because I should be able to totally validate myself and not give two shits what people think of my body or seek their approval.

    I'm conflicted about it for sure.
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    Apr 27, 2012 3:18 PM GMT
    CarbGoggles said I guess I'd have to talk to people who struggle to keep a fit body and see if it's worth it to them..
    They will all say 'yes'. Why would anyone spend all that time and effort to do something that they don't really want. This goes for all aspects in life.

    Getting a ripped body is a lot of work, time & dedication. It should be what you want more than what anyone else wants in order to put in the sacrifice that it takes. There are those that are considered 'healthy fatties'. They are overweight but no medical/physical issues. Where as there are also plenty of skinny guys with medical issues.

    If you are overweight and trying to attract a built/ripped guy then chances are slim. He could be a chaser but those are few are far between. Likes attract likes is usually what works.

    If you are happy with yourself and healthy then that's that. Happiness the end goal which everyone is working towards. But we each take a different path. Some work on their bodies, others on their career, others to make lots of money, others on their community ...etc. So what do YOU want and what will make YOU happy?
  • Latenight30

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    Apr 27, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
    I love to eat, I love food. Some days I would like to be 700lbs and bed ridden, it seems easier than watching what I eat and fitting in gym time.
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Apr 27, 2012 3:30 PM GMT
    Ariodante said
    Blackbeltguy said
    Ariodante saidLess existential over-analysis, more diet and exercise.


    THIS.
    winner winner chicken dinner.


    WHERE'S MY CHICKEN I IS HOONGRY


    here you go my Ariodante..