Gay Romney Aide Quits Over Far Right Attacks

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    May 01, 2012 9:47 PM GMT
    Hey Conservaposse members!

    How's that inclusive Republican Party working out for you now?

    This incredibly right-wing gay dude couldn't even last three weeks on the Romney campaign due to the vicious attacks from the far right. Apparently the oft-cited National Review and Daily Caller led the charge against Ric Grinnell.

    WaPoIn the National Review, Matthew J. Franck wrote late last week: “Suppose Barack Obama comes out — as Grenell wishes he would — in favor of same-sex marriage in his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention. How fast and how publicly will Richard Grenell decamp from Romney to Obama?”

    The argument that Grenell could essentially not be openly gay and serve on a GOP presidential campaign was belied by the fact that Grenell has been a loyal Republican for many years, working for esteemed foreign policy figures including former Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton.

    The ongoing pressure from social conservatives over his appointment and the reluctance of the Romney campaign to send Grenell out as a spokesman while controversy swirled left Grenell essentially with no job. The Romney camp has not responded to my request for comment.

    UPDATE (3:10 p.m.): The Romney camp has now responded via campaign manager Matt Rhoades: “We are disappointed that Ric decided to resign from the campaign for his own personal reasons. We wanted him to stay because he had superior qualifications for the position he was hired to fill.”


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/exclusive-richard-grenell-hounded-from-romney-campaign-by-anti-gay-conservatives/2012/05/01/gIQAccGcuT_blog.html

    I will note that Rubin also reports that many Republicans both in and out of the Romney campaign called on Grinnell to stay but who wants to subject themselves to these ugly attacks?

    More ugliness here:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/297194/re-all-means-let-s-worry-about-richard-grenell-matthew-j-franck#

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    May 01, 2012 10:00 PM GMT
    Screw them. Social conservatives can kiss my gay ass.
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    May 01, 2012 10:05 PM GMT
    Social conservatives still have the Republican party in a chokehold.
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    May 01, 2012 10:38 PM GMT
    Why are you totally misrepresenting this? No one actually knows exactly why he resigned and it could have to do with him deleting 800 tweets and his account?

    All indications show that the Romney camp tried to get him to stay and Grenell didn't say anything about quitting because of "far right attacks". The crazies who have attacked Romney over the matter are not the mainstream.

    Congratulations on making things up out of thin air and quoting sources that decided to do the same.
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    May 01, 2012 10:42 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhy are you totally misrepresenting this? No one actually knows exactly why he resigned and it could have to do with him deleting 800 tweets and his account?

    All indications show that the Romney camp tried to get him to stay and Grenell didn't say anything about quitting because of "far right attacks".

    Congratulations on making things up out of thin air.
    Uh.. excuse me but there are conflicting stories about his departure coming from the parties involved.. if ANYONE is 'making things up', you might want to address that concern and accusal to either Mr Romney or Mr.Grinnell or thier spokespeople.icon_wink.gif

    Now, do you feel stupid?icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 01, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhy are you totally misrepresenting this? No one actually knows exactly why he resigned and it could have to do with him deleting 800 tweets and his account?

    All indications show that the Romney camp tried to get him to stay and Grenell didn't say anything about quitting because of "far right attacks". The crazies who have attacked Romney over the matter are not the mainstream.

    Congratulations on making things up out of thin air and quoting sources that decided to do the same.


    I'm not making anything up. I gave a very fair review of what is known to date.

    Perhaps he did resign over his tweets but I sincerely doubt that. Rather, I think the relentless attacks by National Review and Daily Caller are more likely to have effected his decision. That is the general supposition of most analysts at this time.

    Further, the people calling for Grinnell's ouster are the mainstream of the Republican Party. If you don't think so, you're deluding yourself.


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    mocktwinkie saidWhy are you totally misrepresenting this? No one actually knows exactly why he resigned and it could have to do with him deleting 800 tweets and his account?

    All indications show that the Romney camp tried to get him to stay and Grenell didn't say anything about quitting because of "far right attacks". The crazies who have attacked Romney over the matter are not the mainstream.

    Congratulations on making things up out of thin air and quoting sources that decided to do the same.


    I'm not making anything up. I gave a very fair review of what is known to date.

    Perhaps he did resign over his tweets but I sincerely doubt that. Rather, I think the relentless attacks by National Review and Daily Caller are more likely to have effected his decision. That is the general supposition of most analysts at this time.

    Further, the people calling for Grinnell's ouster are the mainstream of the Republican Party. If you don't think so, you're deluding yourself.




    No you didn't, you gave a lopsided perspective rife with categorical claims that haven't been verified yet. There's still a whole lot of vagueness. Was he actually being bullied by people? A few people writing a negative article generally doesn't cause someone to just resign so easily. It's possible that there is far more to this than what meets the eye.

    One thing we do know, the Romney camp did not welcome his departure and they urged him to stay.
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    May 01, 2012 11:28 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidWhy are you totally misrepresenting this? No one actually knows exactly why he resigned and it could have to do with him deleting 800 tweets and his account?

    All indications show that the Romney camp tried to get him to stay and Grenell didn't say anything about quitting because of "far right attacks". The crazies who have attacked Romney over the matter are not the mainstream.

    Congratulations on making things up out of thin air and quoting sources that decided to do the same.


    I'm not making anything up. I gave a very fair review of what is known to date.

    Perhaps he did resign over his tweets but I sincerely doubt that. Rather, I think the relentless attacks by National Review and Daily Caller are more likely to have effected his decision. That is the general supposition of most analysts at this time.

    Further, the people calling for Grinnell's ouster are the mainstream of the Republican Party. If you don't think so, you're deluding yourself.




    No you didn't, you gave a lopsided perspective rife with categorical claims that haven't been verified yet. There's still a whole lot of vagueness. Was he actually being bullied by people? A few people writing a negative article generally doesn't cause someone to just resign so easily. It's possible that there is far more to this than what meets the eye.

    One thing we do know, the Romney camp did not welcome his departure and they urged him to stay.
    Uh.. read Mr Grinnell's own statement!icon_wink.gif

    You arent very observant are you?icon_rolleyes.gif
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    mocktwinkie saidWhy are you totally misrepresenting this? No one actually knows exactly why he resigned and it could have to do with him deleting 800 tweets and his account?

    All indications show that the Romney camp tried to get him to stay and Grenell didn't say anything about quitting because of "far right attacks". The crazies who have attacked Romney over the matter are not the mainstream.

    Congratulations on making things up out of thin air and quoting sources that decided to do the same.


    I'm not making anything up. I gave a very fair review of what is known to date.

    Perhaps he did resign over his tweets but I sincerely doubt that. Rather, I think the relentless attacks by National Review and Daily Caller are more likely to have effected his decision. That is the general supposition of most analysts at this time.

    Further, the people calling for Grinnell's ouster are the mainstream of the Republican Party. If you don't think so, you're deluding yourself.




    No you didn't, you gave a lopsided perspective rife with categorical claims that haven't been verified yet. There's still a whole lot of vagueness. Was he actually being bullied by people? A few people writing a negative article generally doesn't cause someone to just resign so easily. It's possible that there is far more to this than what meets the eye.

    One thing we do know, the Romney camp did not welcome his departure and they urged him to stay.


    He was under attacked by the right-wing "intelligensia" (God that was hard to get out without spitting coffee on the monitor) for the last two weeks. The Twitter stuff came out before that and certainly didn't stop him from taking the job.

    Sure, we don't know all the details but this "babe in the woods" act you have going is straining credulity.
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    May 02, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
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    mocktwinkie said
    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie saidWhy are you totally misrepresenting this? No one actually knows exactly why he resigned and it could have to do with him deleting 800 tweets and his account?

    All indications show that the Romney camp tried to get him to stay and Grenell didn't say anything about quitting because of "far right attacks". The crazies who have attacked Romney over the matter are not the mainstream.

    Congratulations on making things up out of thin air and quoting sources that decided to do the same.


    I'm not making anything up. I gave a very fair review of what is known to date.

    Perhaps he did resign over his tweets but I sincerely doubt that. Rather, I think the relentless attacks by National Review and Daily Caller are more likely to have effected his decision. That is the general supposition of most analysts at this time.

    Further, the people calling for Grinnell's ouster are the mainstream of the Republican Party. If you don't think so, you're deluding yourself.




    No you didn't, you gave a lopsided perspective rife with categorical claims that haven't been verified yet. There's still a whole lot of vagueness. Was he actually being bullied by people? A few people writing a negative article generally doesn't cause someone to just resign so easily. It's possible that there is far more to this than what meets the eye.

    One thing we do know, the Romney camp did not welcome his departure and they urged him to stay.


    He was under attacked by the right-wing "intelligensia" (God that was hard to get out without spitting coffee on the monitor) for the last two weeks. The Twitter stuff came out before that and certainly didn't stop him from taking the job.

    Sure, we don't know all the details but this "babe in the woods" act you have going is straining credulity.


    Either he was hounded out by the religious nuts who have a Romney on a short leash....or he's a sociopath who never should have been hired.

    Whatever the case...it's another major sign that Romney can't run a campaign, let alone a country.
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    May 02, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
    I recall some republican person on here sayin .... Oooooh but Romney chose a gay guy to be on his staff >>>> No pun intended

    You no what republicans?
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    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie said
    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie saidWhy are you totally misrepresenting this? No one actually knows exactly why he resigned and it could have to do with him deleting 800 tweets and his account?

    All indications show that the Romney camp tried to get him to stay and Grenell didn't say anything about quitting because of "far right attacks". The crazies who have attacked Romney over the matter are not the mainstream.

    Congratulations on making things up out of thin air and quoting sources that decided to do the same.


    I'm not making anything up. I gave a very fair review of what is known to date.

    Perhaps he did resign over his tweets but I sincerely doubt that. Rather, I think the relentless attacks by National Review and Daily Caller are more likely to have effected his decision. That is the general supposition of most analysts at this time.

    Further, the people calling for Grinnell's ouster are the mainstream of the Republican Party. If you don't think so, you're deluding yourself.




    No you didn't, you gave a lopsided perspective rife with categorical claims that haven't been verified yet. There's still a whole lot of vagueness. Was he actually being bullied by people? A few people writing a negative article generally doesn't cause someone to just resign so easily. It's possible that there is far more to this than what meets the eye.

    One thing we do know, the Romney camp did not welcome his departure and they urged him to stay.


    He was under attacked by the right-wing "intelligensia" (God that was hard to get out without spitting coffee on the monitor) for the last two weeks. The Twitter stuff came out before that and certainly didn't stop him from taking the job.

    Sure, we don't know all the details but this "babe in the woods" act you have going is straining credulity.


    Either he was hounded out by the religious nuts who have a Romney on a short leash....or he's a sociopath who never should have been hired.

    Whatever the case...it's another major sign that Romney can't run a campaign, let alone a country.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/richard-grenell-resigns-mitt-romney-campaign_n_1468613.html

    "Ric made the choice that he feels is best for the Romney campaign, and I respect his decision. It is unfortunate that while the Romney campaign made it clear that Grenell being an openly gay man was a non-issue for the governor and his team, the hyper-partisan discussion of issues unrelated to Ric's national security qualifications threatened to compromise his effectiveness on the campaign trail. As a Bush Administration colleague of Ric, I can attest to his experience and qualifications in the national security portfolio. Ric was essentially hounded by the far right and far left. The Romney campaign has lost a well-known advocate of conservative ideas and a talented spokesman, and I am certain he will remain an active voice for a confident U.S. foreign policy."

    "far left"

    From what we see around here, can you imagine?
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    May 02, 2012 1:09 PM GMT
    Oh My Goodness .......

    It was the far left that hounded this man out of his position
    Thank you Free
    I forgot that we here on the left take to the streets every time we see a gay man put into positions of authority

    Comon ... Free do you think we are that stupid to swallow that political spin ?
    You know it and I know that it's the religious right who blocks EVERY SINGLE GAY MAN OR WOMAN who they possibly can

    The sickening thing about this is that YOUR CANDIDATE just sat back and LET IT HAPPEN
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    May 02, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    Conservative Radio Host High-Fives Romney Campaign for Canning Gay Adviser


    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/05/02/conservative-radio-host-high-fives-romney-campaign-for-canning-gay-adviser
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    May 02, 2012 10:44 PM GMT
    He is now back here in Palm Springs, and is going to work for the awful Republican Mary Bono Mack. .
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    May 02, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said

    No you didn't, you gave a lopsided perspective rife with categorical claims that haven't been verified yet.


    You're just now figuring out this about the OP? It's become his status quo with nearly every post.

    What disappoints me the most about Grinell's resignation is that he did it at all. Why did he even bother taking the job in the first place if he were not prepared for this sort of loony B.S. from the likes of Bryan Fischer and other self-righteous religious nut bags? He showed no balls at all -- he basically let them win.
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    mocktwinkie said

    No you didn't, you gave a lopsided perspective rife with categorical claims that haven't been verified yet.


    You're just now figuring out this about the OP? It's become his status quo with nearly every post.

    What disappoints me the most about Grinell's resignation is that he did it at all. Why did he even bother taking the job in the first place if he were not prepared for this sort of loony B.S. from the likes of Bryan Fischer and other self-righteous religious nut bags? He showed no balls at all -- he basically let them win.


    Actually, I quoted the very right-wing (though not antigay) Jennifer Rubin's column including her supposition that Grinnell left/was forced out because of agitation by the anti-gay wing of the Party.

    You all need to stop blaming the left for the Republicans' tendency to eat its own. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 03, 2012 2:35 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/richard-grenell-flap-mitt-romney_n_1472188.html

    Sounds like there's a little more to this than we originally read.
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    May 03, 2012 2:54 PM GMT
    Christian73 said

    You all need to stop blaming the left for the Republicans' tendency to eat its own. icon_rolleyes.gif



    Who's blaming the left? I blame the Bryan Fischers of the world who absolutely MUST be told that their bigoted mindset is not going to be dictating any Romney administration. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney must have under-estimated the vitriol coming from the far right loons, as did Grenell, over his hiring. I just wish Grenell would have stood up to them and not let them win. He should have known what he could be getting into, and not accepted the position if he was not ready, willing, and able to withstand the scrutiny.
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    May 03, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
    Well, Romney is anti-gay and has a homophobic agenda. The things he says about banning gay marriage and defending DOMA , that's not pandering, that's what he really believes. Why else would he donate $10,000 to NOM? So much for him being a "moderate". Yeah right. He has a homophobic agenda as well.

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    Dagomir saidWell, Romney is anti-gay and has a homophobic agenda. The things he says about banning gay marriage and defending DOMA , that's not pandering, that's what he really believes. Why else would he donate $10,000 to NOM? So much for him being a "moderate". Yeah right. He has a homophobic agenda as well.



    he's a closet liberal.
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    You all need to stop blaming the left for the Republicans' tendency to eat its own. icon_rolleyes.gif



    Who's blaming the left? I blame the Bryan Fischers of the world who absolutely MUST be told that their bigoted mindset is not going to be dictating any Romney administration. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney must have under-estimated the vitriol coming from the far right loons, as did Grenell, over his hiring. I just wish Grenell would have stood up to them and not let them win. He should have known what he could be getting into, and not accepted the position if he was not ready, willing, and able to withstand the scrutiny.


    Maybe Grenell is tryng to change minds by "working from within" the republican party- instead of taking the " in your face" angry, bombastic approach that the gay progressives take. How's that "working from within" thingy working for ya'll?
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    Christian73 said

    You all need to stop blaming the left for the Republicans' tendency to eat its own. icon_rolleyes.gif



    Who's blaming the left? I blame the Bryan Fischers of the world who absolutely MUST be told that their bigoted mindset is not going to be dictating any Romney administration. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney must have under-estimated the vitriol coming from the far right loons, as did Grenell, over his hiring. I just wish Grenell would have stood up to them and not let them win. He should have known what he could be getting into, and not accepted the position if he was not ready, willing, and able to withstand the scrutiny.


    Maybe Grenell is tryng to change minds by "working from within" the republican party- instead of taking the " in your face" angry, bombastic approach that the gay progressives take. How's that "working from within" thingy working for ya'll?


    I’ve 'worked from within' for a lot longer than Grenell had and without incident. I was fully out in 1980 when I worked for Dan Quayle in his first run for the senate. I had the one minor incident I've written about many times in 1996 working on the Dole campaign, but other than that I don't recall anything happening.
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    Dagomir saidWell, Romney is anti-gay and has a homophobic agenda. The things he says about banning gay marriage and defending DOMA , that's not pandering, that's what he really believes. Why else would he donate $10,000 to NOM? So much for him being a "moderate". Yeah right. He has a homophobic agenda as well.



    So true, and this is why it's so embarrassing to see so many gay men here support him.
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    Dagomir saidWell, Romney is anti-gay and has a homophobic agenda. The things he says about banning gay marriage and defending DOMA , that's not pandering, that's what he really believes. Why else would he donate $10,000 to NOM? So much for him being a "moderate". Yeah right. He has a homophobic agenda as well.



    So true, and this is why it's so embarrassing to see so many gay men here support him.


    Romney wasn't my first choice, but I support him, and will work on his campaign.