Gay rapist convicted.

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    May 05, 2012 1:20 AM GMT
    He raped one of his frat brothers at Drake and now could get 50 years. What are your thought?

    http://chicago.gopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/29023641/college-student-convicted-of-sexual-assaulting-fraternity-brother
  • Timbales

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    May 05, 2012 1:24 AM GMT
    Rape is rape
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    May 05, 2012 2:15 AM GMT
    "Bertolone was accused of apparently administering an unknown drug to his victim, his then friend and Sigma Chi fraternity brother."

    If he was drugging some guy then he's a douche, of course. But I can't tell from this story what the story might have been.

    "the judge found that the videos of sexual activity on a generally motionless man suggested otherwise."

    Yeah, like that never happens.

    That he took vids with his Iphone? I'm back to the douche theory.
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    May 05, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    Our judicial system has lost all sense of prioritizing the degree of severity in crimes. Rape should be punished obviously, but 50 years? A lot of murderers get less than that!
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    May 05, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidIf the frat brother was concerned about being outed, a rape accusation would be the way to do it.

    Not sure if this is real or not.


    While it's conceivable that the guy said it was rape so he wouldn't be outed, I think that the motionless body makes it likely that it was rape. Also, why drug a guy who was going to sleep with you anyway? (Oops, I forgot this is RJ.)
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    May 05, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH said
    swimguychicago said Also, why drug a guy who was going to sleep with you anyway? (Oops, I forgot this is RJ.)

    An excellent point. About RJ, I mean.


    Considering that creepy post we had a week ago from a guy who wanted to fuck corpses... or chloroform straight boys and rape them whilst they were unconscious... few things on here are truly shocking anymore.
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    May 05, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
    AlphaTrigger said
    JPtheBITCH said
    swimguychicago said Also, why drug a guy who was going to sleep with you anyway? (Oops, I forgot this is RJ.)

    An excellent point. About RJ, I mean.


    Considering that creepy post we had a week ago from a guy who wanted to fuck corpses... or chloroform straight boys and rape them whilst they were unconscious... few things on here are truly shocking anymore.
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    May 05, 2012 2:51 AM GMT
    AlphaTrigger said
    JPtheBITCH said
    swimguychicago said Also, why drug a guy who was going to sleep with you anyway? (Oops, I forgot this is RJ.)

    An excellent point. About RJ, I mean.


    Considering that creepy post we had a week ago from a guy who wanted to fuck corpses... or chloroform straight boys and rape them whilst they were unconscious... few things on here are truly shocking anymore.


    The word you're looking for is sociopath. Guys who could not give a fuck for the well being of others unless their lives depended on it.
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    May 05, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
    "Bertolone claimed in testimony that the two had a consensual relationship but the judge found that the videos of sexual activity on a generally motionless man suggested otherwise."


    Better be careful. Some of those disappointing hook ups could get you in trouble.
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    May 05, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
    I would tend to believe this was an assault based on the video evidence. I agree that 50 years is way over the top, although this guy sounds like a really bad dude.
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    May 05, 2012 3:10 AM GMT
    If he gets 50 years, I'm moving to another country.

    Compare it to this guy , who is a convicted attempted-murderer, of a cop at that, and only got 14-25 years.

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/05/03/injured-cop-recalls-shooting-demands-justice-after-shooter-gets-minimum-jail-time/

    If he does get 50 years, maybe we have a whole new legal term: "HATE SENTENCE", the flip side of hate crime.
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    May 05, 2012 3:22 AM GMT
    ECnAZ saidIf he gets 50 years, I'm moving to another country.

    Compare it to this guy , who is a convicted attempted-murderer, of a cop at that, and only got 14-25 years.

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/05/03/injured-cop-recalls-shooting-demands-justice-after-shooter-gets-minimum-jail-time/

    If he does get 50 years, maybe we have a whole new legal term: "HATE SENTENCE", the flip side of hate crime.


    I guess the judge thought that gay rape is worse for the victim than attempted murder.

    (I wouldn't leave the country just yet, because most other countries are even worse!)
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    May 05, 2012 3:26 AM GMT
    I don't know why but rape fantasies came to mind. But then I think hmmm... would i really like it? Like lets get real here no hulking hot six foot two guy is gonna break into your house and fuck you in your favorite position. Haha!!

    But yes rape is rape down with that doggy.
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    May 05, 2012 3:26 AM GMT
    I think that severe crimes like rape, murder etc. of anyone should be more than 30 years. I can't believe that some people can get only 10 years for something like rape...
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    May 05, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
    swimguychicago said... Also, why drug a guy who was going to sleep with you anyway?
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    May 05, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH said
    AlphaTrigger said
    JPtheBITCH said
    swimguychicago said Also, why drug a guy who was going to sleep with you anyway? (Oops, I forgot this is RJ.)

    An excellent point. About RJ, I mean.


    Considering that creepy post we had a week ago from a guy who wanted to fuck corpses... or chloroform straight boys and rape them whilst they were unconscious... few things on here are truly shocking anymore.

    One can get jaded here.
    Oh, who am I saying this to? The guy with the completely outfitted dungeon in his house?


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    May 05, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
    MarkRoger saidI think that severe crimes like rape, murder etc. of anyone should be more than 30 years. I can't believe that some people can get only 10 years for something like rape...
    I can't believe that 1st time offenders commonly get 6 months to a year for murder.
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    May 05, 2012 3:28 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    MarkRoger saidI think that severe crimes like rape, murder etc. of anyone should be more than 30 years. I can't believe that some people can get only 10 years for something like rape...
    I can't believe that 1st time offenders commonly get 6 months to a year for murder.


    Clearly they want second time offenders... what is wrong with the justice system?
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    May 05, 2012 3:36 AM GMT
    MarkRoger said
    paulflexes said
    MarkRoger said I can't believe that some people can get only 10 years for something like rape...
    I can't believe that 1st time offenders commonly get 6 months to a year for murder.


    Clearly they want second time offenders... what is wrong with the justice system?


    First time offenders commonly get 6 months to a year for murder? Really? Do you have a source on that?
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    May 05, 2012 3:38 AM GMT
    Well it's multiple counts he's convicted of. So in theory he could get 50 years (10 years per crime?). Doesn't mean he will.
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    May 05, 2012 5:19 AM GMT
    Brings to mind the case here in California of Andrew Luster - who was convicted of using GHB and date raping three women. He taped the encounters and when one woman complained, the police confiscated the tapes and used them against Luster. In 2003, he received 124 years, and must serve 105 years before being eligible for parole. He will most likely die in prison. Luster is the great grandson of Max Factor.

    It will be interesting to see what sentence this latest date-rape perp. receives.
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    May 05, 2012 5:24 AM GMT
    swimguychicago said
    MarkRoger said
    paulflexes said
    MarkRoger said I can't believe that some people can get only 10 years for something like rape...
    I can't believe that 1st time offenders commonly get 6 months to a year for murder.


    Clearly they want second time offenders... what is wrong with the justice system?


    First time offenders commonly get 6 months to a year for murder? Really? Do you have a source on that?
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    May 05, 2012 6:05 AM GMT
    Wow, this is interesting.
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    May 05, 2012 6:21 AM GMT
    Animus said
    AlphaTrigger said
    JPtheBITCH said
    swimguychicago said Also, why drug a guy who was going to sleep with you anyway? (Oops, I forgot this is RJ.)

    An excellent point. About RJ, I mean.


    Considering that creepy post we had a week ago from a guy who wanted to fuck corpses... or chloroform straight boys and rape them whilst they were unconscious... few things on here are truly shocking anymore.


    The word you're looking for is sociopath. Guys who could not give a fuck for the well being of others unless their lives depended on it.



    oooohhh....i had one of those for a roommate for 6 months. LEARNING EXPERIENCE icon_mad.gif
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    May 05, 2012 6:56 AM GMT
    RoadsterRacer87 said
    Animus said
    AlphaTrigger said
    JPtheBITCH said
    swimguychicago said Also, why drug a guy who was going to sleep with you anyway? (Oops, I forgot this is RJ.)

    An excellent point. About RJ, I mean.


    Considering that creepy post we had a week ago from a guy who wanted to fuck corpses... or chloroform straight boys and rape them whilst they were unconscious... few things on here are truly shocking anymore.


    The word you're looking for is sociopath. Guys who could not give a fuck for the well being of others unless their lives depended on it.



    oooohhh....i had one of those for a roommate for 6 months. LEARNING EXPERIENCE icon_mad.gif


    Yeah there's an ABC sitcom about that called the B in 2B or something like that.