CNN > FORMER LEADER - Ehud Olmert: Right-wing Americans thwarted Israeli-Palestinian peace accord. (in other words the Christian Fundi's Bible 'stories' fucked things up again)

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    May 05, 2012 4:37 AM GMT
    From Haaretz News:

    "Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert tells CNN that right-wing extremists from the United States toppled his government with “millions and millions of dollars” in order to thwart his attempt to reach a lasting peace agreement with the Palestinians.

    In the interview Olmert gave CNN’s Christiane Amanpour that aired on Friday, Olmert said that his peace plan was supported by a majority of Israelis and that it could have been and still can be implemented, were it not for “superior powers” in the U.S. which he would not name.

    Olmert told Amanpour that he was working towards a peace agreement knowing that this would mean handing over east Jerusalem to the Palestinians: “But I had to fight against superior powers, including millions and millions of dollars that were transferred from this country [the U.S.] by figures which were from the extreme right wing, that were aimed to topple me as Prime Minister of Israel. There is no question about it.”

    Amanpour asked Olmert if there is still time for a two-state solution “There is time,” Olmert answered, “but time is running out.”

    Olmert criticized Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s dealings with the Palestinians saying “the fact is that we don’t negotiate with the Palestinians, and the fact is that we have not proposed anything.”

    When asked if Netanyahu will seek such a peace, Olmert said, “I certainly pray that he will,” adding “I doubt that he will.”


    Christian Fundi's have a list of end time prophesies that tie into Jerusalem not being separated and all of the West Bank "judea and samaria" belonging to the 'chosen people' from a 3000 year old bible story, They put their beliefs into practice by donations of Millions of dollars for Settlements and support of Settlers.

    The US Nationally known Reverend Hagee and former advisor to GW Bush and McCain, whose group "christians united for Israel' (CUFI) is seen as the lead Christian organization said to represent some 40 million church goers and their donations.

    Fear these damn fanatics who will finance and back anything their fanaticism marks out as bible truth such as their belief in the connection of Israels New and Old Jerusalem with the Coming Rapture and the 2nd coming of Christ. Look up and read the beliefs of (CUFI) regarding Israel and the end times, a truely scarry group who are very influencial along with the Israeli Lobby AIPAC in keeping support of Israeli settlements which block peace with the Palestinians.

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    May 05, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
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    210 12 View > Who are these right wing U.S. billionaires who don't want Peace?
    Lou Medel 05.05.12 05:50

    Like Moskowitz, Adelson, Bronfman.....and the Christian right cuckoos? Names please. Salaam/Shalom
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    May 05, 2012 10:00 PM GMT
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    210 12 View > Who are these right wing U.S. billionaires who don't want Peace?
    Lou Medel 05.05.12 05:50

    Like Moskowitz, Adelson, Bronfman.....and the Christian right cuckoos? Names please. Salaam/Shalom

    Bronfman? Isn't he the Seagrams alcohol empire?
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    May 05, 2012 10:31 PM GMT
    Combine this with the condemnation of Netanyahu as Messianic by Yuval Diskin (former Director of Shin Bet) and the outlook is not good. These nutters (and believe me some of them are quite extraordinarily mad - Check out Billye Brim) have the resources and the ideology to do something truly scary.
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    May 05, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    I googled Billye Brim and this is what I got - priceless:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxdZ7uKUx5A
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    May 06, 2012 2:41 AM GMT
    shutoman saidI googled Billye Brim and this is what I got - priceless:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxdZ7uKUx5A



    Thanks for this, I'll be looking it up !!


    When you get a chance look up the beliefs of the Christian Fundi's like the Reverend Hagee and his Christians United For Israel, Their weaving in fanatic religious beliefs with monetary support going against peace, is totally on the wrong side of what their own bible leader Jusus teaches. Its all a very sick comedy of contradictions. Then we the Tax payer ends up paying the bills for 'keeping us safe' from the enemies our government leaders and these christian Fundi's who follow the lead of the Israeli AIPAC Lobby make for our country by backing everything but peace.
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    May 08, 2012 2:10 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]Art_Deco said[/cite]
    realifedad said Comments from the article:

    210 12 View > Who are these right wing U.S. billionaires who don't want Peace?
    Lou Medel 05.05.12 05:50

    Like Moskowitz, Adelson, Bronfman.....and the Christian right cuckoos? Names please. Salaam/Shalom

    Bronfman? Isn't he the Seagrams alcohol empire?[/quote)



    Yes he is and Adelson is the wealthy Gambling King in the US, He spends millions on the settlements in Israel, Millions more electing Netanyahu, Millions on a far right Newpaper promoting Settlements and other Far Right issues in Israel and 21 Million on a failed presidential bid by none other than the godamed GINGRICH, who was Adelsons hand picked choice for American President. LOL !!! It didn't work, but it sure has worked at building settlements and justifying the theft of Palestinians land and homes. Which all are a block to peace. By the way ADELSON is another of those DUAL CITIZENS, who quite obviously put their US dollars to work for ISRAELI INTERESTS, not US INTERESTS. Like it or not, those are the sorry facts.
  • shutoman

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    May 12, 2012 4:37 PM GMT
    As you'll have gathered RLD, the Billye Brim was a little ow on geopolitics (not that any geopolitical input from the Hagin complex would elucidate much): it was, however, a delightful insight into just how bonkers these people are.
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    May 13, 2012 2:57 AM GMT
    So, it being Mother's Day tomorrow, I decided to drive the one and a half hours to put flowers on my mother's grave. My mother was killed by an Israeli sniper. While there, I decided to meet up with my English-Scottish cousin, who I've loved all my life, but is a little, shall we say, to the right of John Hagee and even more evangelistic. One of his missions in life is to save my soul from eternal damnation. He had a gift for me today, a TALMUD! Can you believe this??? He knows I am half Palestinian and half Scottish. So, for the most part, we had a nice day, went to lunch and put out the flowers, then we drove around a bit, when he baited me, telling me about his friend who lives in "Israel", and it's the Palestinians "who don't want peace". We almost went to blows, when there appeared in the middle of the road, a rattle snake (Satan???)! LOL Conversation came to a halt. I'm more worried about his soul than mine. icon_cry.gif
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    May 15, 2012 2:19 PM GMT
    So sorry to hear about your mum, Ian. But glad to see you appear to have turned out so level headed. There's not much you can do about your cousin, as you've probably guessed; but I share your view that he's probably in a more perilous place (psychologically) than you. Interesting gift.
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    May 16, 2012 2:26 PM GMT
    Here's a list of the Christian Fundi Reverend Hagee's beliefs behind his very influencial CHRISTIANS UNITED FOR ISRAEL organization which donate millions per year to the Settlers and Settlements in Palestines West Bank (Semaria and Judea) These bible beliefs are very Usefull for the Zionist Zealots who promote theft of Palestinian lands, homes and farms.







    By Stuart Littlewood writer for Veterans Today Military and Foreign Affairs JWhat does Hagee’s CUfI believe in?


    What does Hagee’s CUfI believe in?

    ■We believe in the absolute authority of the [sacred] scripture to govern the affairs of men.


    ■We believe in the promise of Genesis 12:3 regarding the Jewish people and the nation of Israel. We believe that this is an eternal covenant between God and the seed of Abraham to which God is faithful. Genesis 12:3 “And I will bless them that bless thee and curse him that curseth thee; and in thee shall all nations of the earth be blessed.” Point: God has promised to bless the man or nation that blesses the Chosen People. History has proven beyond reasonable doubt that the nations that have blessed the Jewish people have had the blessing of God; the nations that have cursed the Jewish people have experienced the curse of God.


    ■We support Israel because all other nations were created by an act of men, but Israel was created by an act of God! The Royal Land Grant that was given to Abraham and his seed through Isaac and Jacob with an everlasting and unconditional covenant.


    ■St. Paul recorded in Romans 15:27 “For if the Gentiles have shared in their (the Jews) spiritual things, they are indebted to minister to them also in material things.”


    ■Christians owe a debt of eternal gratitude to the Jewish people for their contributions that gave birth to the Christian faith… the Jewish people have given to Christianity:

    a) The Sacred Scripture

    b) The Prophets

    c) The Patriarchs

    d) Mary, Joseph, and Jesus Christ of Nazareth

    e) The Twelve Disciples

    f) The Apostles

    It is not possible to say, “I am a Christian” and not love the Jewish people.


    (nothing wrong with loving jewish people, but don't love them by killing and running off Palestinians from their lands and homes)

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