Light Up After The Gym

  • hagerstowncat...

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    Jul 20, 2008 9:23 PM GMT
    OK I was a smoker for years but it amazes me how many of the ripped guys light up when they walk out the gym door.

    Do you light up after a workout?
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    Jul 20, 2008 11:01 PM GMT
    No, but everytime I see someone light up after a workout, no matter how 'hot', I instantly think they're a fool.

    If you have the will power to go to the gym to the point that you have 4% body fat, you have the will power to stop smoking. It's unhealthy and unattractive.
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    Jul 20, 2008 11:05 PM GMT
    no... never was a smoker, never will be.
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    Jul 20, 2008 11:39 PM GMT
    While i dont particularly have a problem with smokers, people who work out and smoke seem like and oxymoron.
  • geebus

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    Jul 21, 2008 12:01 AM GMT
    Yep I see this all the time, especially from the unigym. My friend jokes that this is the definition of "just keeping fit", then I thought if you really needed that much muscle to be "fit" icon_eek.gif

    Anyway, who am I to judge? I hit the Tim Tams after my workout like a starving child icon_twisted.gif
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    Jul 21, 2008 12:30 AM GMT
    light up what?

    No, not these days...
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    Jul 21, 2008 12:38 AM GMT
    hagerstowncatcher saidOK I was a smoker for years but it amazes me how many of the ripped guys light up when they walk out the gym door.


    I don't smoke at all. However, I'll do you one better than your statement.

    There is a personal trainer at one of the NYSC's... that smokes passionately. While on Duty as a Personal Trainer... he'll go on break, take a smoke, then come back and continue to do his job.

    london nycIf you have the will power to go to the gym to the point that you have 4% body fat, you have the will power to stop smoking. It's unhealthy and unattractive.


    Mind you, he has a wonderful body - the epitome of tall and well-sized defined, lean muscle mass... however, the smoking thing is the biggest oxymoron.

    I'll never understand it.
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    Jul 21, 2008 1:16 AM GMT
    I'm a smoker. And while I only smoke one, maybe two cigarettes a day, I realize it's unhealthy for me. Occasionally after a work out, if I haven't smoked yet, then I might have one on the walk home. Going to the gym is a big stress reliever. And smoking is something I do that tends to relax me even further.


    To the guys who freak out over smokers:
    NOW.. I get that some of you dislike smoking, and as a personal preference, don't want to date a smoker. But that doesn't merit writing us off as morons, or as disgusting. Eating McDonald's is unhealthy, and there is a FAR higher percentage of people who work out, and then go eat a Big Mac. Or if you want to talk health risks.. people who work out regularly, and then have unsafe sex with people in the locker room (or at home). Are you saying that you think higher of the guys who give blow jobs in the steam room, than the guys who have a cigarette after a work out? God help him if he's a smoker AND a whore..

    My point here is.. it's our choice to smoke, it's your choice not to. Not 100% of the things we do in life are going to be things that are beneficial to our health. I don't feel like one balances out the other. But I do feel like it's rude of someone to think I'm trash for having a cigarette. In the grand scheme of things, it has nothing to do with you.

    DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA

    P.S. I'm really not a asshole.. scouts honor.
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    Jul 21, 2008 1:26 AM GMT
    I dont think of you as trash, I'm sorry if I my post gave you that impression, it's just odd from how i see it. As far as the locker room sex and mcdonalds, I'm not a big fan of either of those either. This topic happens to be about smoking so that is our focus. But thank you for giving us some insight on the other side of the issue.
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    Jul 21, 2008 1:30 AM GMT
    london_nyc saidIf you have the will power to go to the gym to the point that you have 4% body fat, you have the will power to stop smoking. It's unhealthy and unattractive.


    Just curious, are you speaking from personal experience as an ex-smoker?
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    Jul 21, 2008 1:47 AM GMT
    I think cigarettes and the people who smoke them are gross. I am repulsed by it. My gym has other offices in it and people use to smoke right by the front door. We made some noise about it...and now there smoking station is across the street from the entrance.
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    Jul 21, 2008 1:48 AM GMT
    SilverBird saidI dont think of you as trash, I'm sorry if I my post gave you that impression, it's just odd from how i see it. As far as the locker room sex and mcdonalds, I'm not a big fan of either of those either. This topic happens to be about smoking so that is our focus. But thank you for giving us some insight on the other side of the issue.


    Oh, I didn't think that at all. My post was probably a little 'overly-energetic.' But it's not just about smoking. Smoking only catches your eye because it's unhealthy. So when you ask the question, "why smoke?" .. what you're really asking is "Why do something so unhealthy?"

    Anybody that's ever snagged ice cream after the gym knows exactly why smokers light up afterward. Just... because we wanna. And in hindsight.. I probably should have left it at that. icon_sad.gif my bad..
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    Jul 21, 2008 1:58 AM GMT
    iguanaSF said
    london_nyc saidIf you have the will power to go to the gym to the point that you have 4% body fat, you have the will power to stop smoking. It's unhealthy and unattractive.


    Just curious, are you speaking from personal experience as an ex-smoker?


    No, I'm not an ex-smoker, though I will admit to having the occasional spliff (or slice of pizza or cheeseburger or ice cream or whathaveyou). I just think keeping yourself at a high level of fitness shows that you have strong will and dedication-- you can diet and exercise and resist the temptation to slip up and spend a week eating pizza and watching television.

    If you can do that, then why not channel that energy and will power into giving up smoking?
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    Jul 21, 2008 3:53 AM GMT
    This is the story of a former addict. The first time I swam a 200 Butterfly at a meet, the outside temperature was in the 20s. Everyone was coming by to congratulate me. The only thought in my mind is absorbing some nicotine. With no bottoms and only a wet swimsuit, the parka went on I got some deep drags in the parking lot. An embarassing moment in retrospect.
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    Jul 21, 2008 4:27 AM GMT
    london_nyc saidNo, I'm not an ex-smoker, ... I just think keeping yourself at a high level of fitness shows that you have strong will and dedication-- you can diet and exercise and resist the temptation to slip up and spend a week eating pizza and watching television.

    If you can do that, then why not channel that energy and will power into giving up smoking?


    It was pretty easy to guess that you're not an ex-smoker.

    Unless you have been addicted yourself, it's really easy to "just think" that it's just about "channeling energy and willpower." (Ex-smoker here). But you're simply projecting.

    You are making a big intuitive leap when you equate the will to go to the gym and the will to quit smoking. This analogy is not supported by any serious medical research on the addictive nature of nicotine. Nor would it be supported by interviewing a handful of smokers yourself, if you simply asked a few of them.

    It's just like when I'm in a depressive state, and people who've never experienced depression say things like "Stop feeling sorry for yourself and just snap out of it man!"

    Both of these forms of advice, while meant in a helpful way, betray a lack of understanding of what is happening to the person you're trying to "help."

    So while your heart is in the right place in wanting these folks to quit, you're just going to piss people off if you persist in projecting your own baseless theories about how easy it is to quit.

    And yes, I admit you pissed me off.

    But not too much icon_smile.gif

    K

    PS I reliably go to the gym 3.56421x / week, but I still can't say for sure that I've REALLY quit smoking yet, even tho I've had only 4 or 5 cigarettes in the last year. You tell me -- am I "strong willed" or not?
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    Jul 21, 2008 4:32 AM GMT
    Well, as usual Mark Twain said it best:

    "Quitting smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I've done it 600 times."
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    Jul 21, 2008 4:05 PM GMT
    I'm happy, my moms a tabbacco company executive with a large proportion of her assets in shares in the same company. Which historically are the best stocks to weather a period of recession.

    So while I think it's gross, would never do it and give my close friends subtle hints of dissapproval. Her $$$ payed for my xmas presents as a kid.

    Dose that make me a hypocrite? In honesty I couldn't believe anyone could claim to be serious about their health and fitness and smoke.

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    Jul 21, 2008 4:35 PM GMT
    jprichva saidWell, as usual Mark Twain said it best:

    "Quitting smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I've done it 600 times."


    icon_cry.gif AMEN.

    Now I'm outa here before this turns into a flamewar.
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    Jul 22, 2008 4:22 AM GMT
    Our bodies actually have Nicotine receptors, that's why the nicotine from smoking feels so good. There are also different kinds of addition: the chemical, the physical, and the psychological. The chemical addiction is very hard to break somewhere close to heroine--the body "needs" the nicotine. The physical is the hand to mouth repetition. It doesn't necessarily need to be a cigarette, but something to keep that motion. The psychological is just a habit and because you enjoy smoking. I like sitting on my steps and having a beer after mowing the lawn on a hot day. Beer isn't good for me either, but it's something I enjoy. To judge a fit person because of smoking without knowing why is unfair. I have trained people who want to exercise so that they can enjoy the things they like to enjoy--be that bbq wings, beer, or smoking. If it helps them to balance out healthy vs unhealthy then more power to them.
  • jeepdave75

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    Jul 27, 2008 12:05 AM GMT
    Okay... I'll throw my two cents in as a smoker.

    I *love* smoking. I've been smoking for 20 years. I wanted to smoke from the youngest age I could remember. I love the smell, I like the taste, I enjoy the moment alone to myself while having a smoke break at work. I really *dont want* to quit...

    That said, I started at the gym on June 1 to get in shape, lose weight, look better, and feel better about myself. (There's a little revenge thrown into that motivational mix too, but thats a different story.)

    I go to the gym first thing after I wake up. I dont smoke before I go to the gym, and 9 times out of 10 I dont smoke on my way home or even for an hour or so until after I've showered, changed, eaten, and mellowed out.

    Why not? Cuz the gyms still new for me, and im goin as hard as I can every day, cuz when I walk out the door I am riding that endorphine high! (God forbid that ever goes away.)

    I'm going to have to quit. I've hit a wall. I'm running as fast and as long as I can. This week that's impressive, but im 3 months time it's going to get stagnant and I'm quickly learning stagnation in exercise does absolutely nothing for ya.

    I dont question these guys lighting up on their way out the door. I get it. What I question is how they get/got/stay in shape without being able to breathe efficiently.
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    Jul 27, 2008 12:44 AM GMT
    Smoking may be sexy, but it certainly isn't good for you long term. That said, I would be the last person to tell anyone they should quit smoking just because it's dangerous. Danger is a good thing, it's what keeps life exciting.

    I don't smoke because it would keep me from doing a lot of the intensly physical stuff I do... use your imagination ;)
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    Jul 27, 2008 12:52 AM GMT
    fitguymike saidBeer isn't good for me either, but it's something I enjoy.


    In moderation, beer may be good for you. I don't think you can say that about smoking.

    But smoking actually doesn't gross me out.
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    Jul 27, 2008 1:24 AM GMT

    It's so hot to enter the gym or exit and find a large shadowy figure exhaling out smoke. I get hot everytime I see it. I wanna be the dragon slayer, lol.