Internet Killed the Gay Club

  • mrsmithers

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    May 05, 2012 10:07 PM GMT
    Does anyone believe this? Where I come from, many told me there has always been one or two BIG gay dance clubs going back into the 1970s. Up till about 6-7 years ago they have disappeared.. We still have a few small gay bars and a few small "Hole in the wall type places" where people can dance.. I noticed that now it's either the very young that go out or the very old.. One week may be very busy and the next week on the same night may be kinda slow.. It's not consistent as it was in the old days.. I've noticed a different crowd each week in some places which seems to evolve..

    My belief is that #1 is the economy, #2 seeing how it's the economy people now have a cheaper way of meeting people without having to go out to the bar and pay for drinks and/or emission.. Hookup sites such as Adam4adam, Manhunt, etc.. I personally think it's better to go out and meet people, at least you know who you are meeting and getting out instead of sitting in front of the computer. But here in this city we don't have a good selection of clubs anymore, so to make a big night out you would have to travel about 40 miles into the next county.. I've noticed here there are alot of straight clubs which seem to be doing good.. Even alot of gay people around here are intergrading themselves into the straight clubs.. A few have mentioned that oh this is the future of the gay clubs, we are one big happy family and we are going to come together as one.. I don't believe this will ever to happen, and think the reason gay people are going to straight clubs around here is because the music and environment is much better, and some don't want to drive 40 miles every weekend to go to a big nice gay club..

    I would like to see what others have a far as input...
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    May 05, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    Gay bars and clubs were on their way out long before the economy failed. The internet has had to have some impact- it was providing a service, hooking up, that was one of the main reasons many people went to the bar. We certainly never had the biggest gay scene here in the Detroit area, but even when I travel to other places with a large gay club scene, it is nothing like it was in the eighties or nineties. There used to be a time when even on a night like a Tuesday or Wednesday you could go out and have choices.
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    May 05, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    Acceptance into "straight" venues killed the gay clubs.

    The only reason they ever existed was to have a place where we can hang out and be accepted. That's no longer necessary in some places anymore.
  • mrsmithers

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    May 05, 2012 10:50 PM GMT
    It's a combination of a few things.. 40 minutes from here has very big venues and are packed, but like you said it's not the same as it was even back in the early 2000s when I started going out... I would think many would rather hookup being physically around instead of behinds pics and a computer screen.. Dating services such as AOL personals, Excite, Yahoo offered free dating/hookup well before Adam4adam and Manhunt came along back in the late 90s and early 2000s and the club scene was still at it's normal..

    I don't think gay and straight are going to come together as a one, it's like taking two cultures and making one out of the two.. I just don't see that happening..
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    May 05, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
    The internet was the best thing to happen for introverts in their prospects icon_cool.gif
  • Lincsbear

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    May 05, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    I think the internet(and all its services) has had a detrimental effect on all social situations/meeting places,clubs, shops, etc.
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    May 05, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
    I know they have been struggling down here in oz the past few years with quite a few closures. The reasons for this I understood was what has been already mentioned - Internet (particularly apps like grindr) and increased levels of acceptance at other venues (however I struggle to believe that two guys would feel comfortable kissing in a mainly straight venue as they would in an exclusively gay one).
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    May 05, 2012 11:02 PM GMT
    Lincsbear saidI think the internet(and all its services) has had a detrimental effect on all social situations/meeting places,clubs, shops, etc.



    I agree there, I think the internet on our society as a whole has been detrimental, which could be one of the reasons the world is in such a bad place..
  • mrsmithers

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    May 05, 2012 11:06 PM GMT
    ozgreenguy saidI know they have been struggling down here in oz the past few years with quite a few closures. The reasons for this I understood was what has been already mentioned - Internet (particularly apps like grindr) and increased levels of acceptance at other venues (however I struggle to believe that two guys would feel comfortable kissing in a mainly straight venue as they would in an exclusively gay one).


    I do agree, Homophobes still exist and will always, besides I think it would be boring as for clubs to not be divided.. As we know the gay scene is a much different format, even to music and sound, which also is another BIG issue..

    Apps you would think would be good for bars, you can go out and go one your phone and see who is the closets to you and meet that way while inside a club.. Alot are shy and it's easier to talk text before meeting in person..
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    May 05, 2012 11:23 PM GMT
    mrsmithers said
    ozgreenguy saidI know they have been struggling down here in oz the past few years with quite a few closures. The reasons for this I understood was what has been already mentioned - Internet (particularly apps like grindr) and increased levels of acceptance at other venues (however I struggle to believe that two guys would feel comfortable kissing in a mainly straight venue as they would in an exclusively gay one).


    I do agree, Homophobes still exist and will always, besides I think it would be boring as for clubs to not be divided.. As we know the gay scene is a much different format, even to music and sound, which also is another BIG issue..



    Even if there was complete acceptance of gays in society, I think there will still be a place for gay bars and clubs. Gay bars provide a place where you do not have to try and figure out that 5% or so that are gay among a crowd. If you are looking for a date, a hook up, a boyfriend, gay friends, it is nice to have a place where that filtering has been done for you.
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    May 05, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidThe internet was the best thing to happen for introverts in their prospects icon_cool.gif


    Amen. I've only ever had a single date that wasn't internet related. Hell 99% of my dates in my life have been RJ related.
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    May 05, 2012 11:57 PM GMT
    I went to two back in March cuz my friend was in town... FILLED TO THE TOP WITH LESBIANS...

    I was so upset and bored.
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    May 06, 2012 12:21 AM GMT
    - Yes, the internet killed clubs for all the above mentioned reasons.

    - People used to go out for socializing and dancing. Music today, IMHO, is not
    as conducive to dancing as it used to be. Unless you were there back in the day,
    please don't argue that observation.

    - I recall going to rent-boy bars (no, not as a buyer or a seller!) both in NY and LA,
    and they died as a result of the net.

    - The matter of "acceptance" weighs in heavily. Today, you can't even tell you're in
    a gay bar. Take The Abbey in LA. Some nights, it's more (straight) women than
    guys. When asked to comment , the original owner stated, I believe, that
    "Well, that's what we wanted."

    - AND , if you go into a bar today, most people are texting, which, to me, means
    that they'd rather be someplace else anyway. I once received a text from a friend
    at 1 am while I was at home asleep telling me how great the bars were that night.
    If he was having such a great time, how did he have the time or the urge to text?

    - I think that's why most older guys gravitate to leather bars. It the only place where
    it's all men.
  • mrsmithers

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    May 06, 2012 12:21 AM GMT
    I've noticed too the Lesbians are trying to take over gay clubs, especially the ghetto ones that wear baggy pants.. They're a site for sore eyes..
  • mrsmithers

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    May 06, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    garyinla said- Yes, the internet killed clubs for all the above mentioned reasons.

    - People used to go out for socializing and dancing. Music today, IMHO, is not
    as conducive to dancing as it used to be. Unless you were there back in the day,
    please don't argue that observation.

    - I recall going to rent-boy bars (no, not as a buyer or a seller!) both in NY and LA,
    and they died as a result of the net.

    - The matter of "acceptance" weighs in heavily. Today, you can't even tell you're in
    a gay bar. Take The Abbey in LA. Some nights, it's more (straight) women than
    guys. When asked to comment , the original owner stated, I believe, that
    "Well, that's what we wanted."

    - AND , if you go into a bar today, most people are texting, which, to me, means
    that they'd rather be someplace else anyway. I once received a text from a friend
    at 1 am while I was at home asleep telling me how great the bars were that night.
    If he was having such a great time, how did he have the time or the urge to text?

    - I think that's why most older guys gravitate to leather bars. It the only place where
    it's all men.


    That would make a lot of sense... Music is not as good as it use to be, and there is no substance behind it.. Unless you're into Pitbull, Lmfao and Chris Brown, than the regular gay club is the place to be.. Gotta blame the media to a certain matter on that one.. In the bigger more gay populated cities it's still the good old Circuit and Underground which I love...
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    May 06, 2012 12:29 AM GMT
    garyinla said- I think that's why most older guys gravitate to leather bars. It the only place where it's all men.


    Define "older"... lol I go to the NYC Eagle often enough, and there are some younger leather boys there. And I ain't exactly old yet either. ;)
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    May 06, 2012 12:30 AM GMT
    Hell yeah it did and caused a worldwide addiction to the web. Ever dated someone addicted to the web?
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    May 06, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    Though in fairness, more of the crowd there does tend to be somewhat older and more or less in average shape.

    But very few glitter twinks and almost zero hags there. Just plenty of men.
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    May 06, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    It also might be that music is so bad now people don't want to subject themselves to it.

    Edit: didnt see the post of above that pretty much said what I did..icon_lol.gif
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    May 06, 2012 12:33 AM GMT
    garyinla said
    - I think that's why most older guys gravitate to leather bars. It the only place where it's all men.


    Define "older"... lol I go to the NYC Eagle often enough, and there are some younger leather boys there. And I ain't exactly old yet either. ;)

    Ah, I must get myself to the NYC Eagle forthwith.
  • mrsmithers

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    May 06, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    Gotta blame the mainstream media on that one.. For a while there Hiphop was the main format, that got old and now it's claimed the house format.. I think radio stations should boycott alot of this.. Tho I have noticed a few good boy bands coming out with some good stuff..
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    May 06, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    Didn't kill the gay club I was just at. Canal street is still packed with gays.
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    May 06, 2012 12:47 AM GMT
    Bad business policies can also do it for a business. On Saturday Nights, every gay bar and club in Minneapolis and St. Paul is 21+. Every bar.
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    May 06, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
    Hey Bullwinkle, In 10 years you'll be glad they don't allow the under-21 set in. Trust me on this.
  • mrsmithers

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    May 06, 2012 12:59 AM GMT
    Ya, I've noticed this too around here, I'm even shocked to see previous clubs owners who own current places make some real bad choices, but I think many are doing what ever to get people out around here... Problem is no one is spending money. They use Facebook to promote.. No one advertises in the local magazines like they use too. We get the magazines here but it's all the clubs advertised in the next county over.. Not only that all the places around here are basically put together like a house party, cheap lighting, equipment, people who are hired in positions which they don't belong, not to mention people don't clean the clubs, so the next night your shoes stick to the floor from the scum of the previous night.. That may be a reason why people don't like the bars in this city..