HELP, I WANNA DISCOVER THE U.S.!!

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    May 06, 2012 2:05 PM GMT
    Ok, I know this is a looong shot but I might just as well give it a try:

    I'm still in college, have never been to the states and summer break is coming up. Now, I have wanted to go to the U.S. ever since I was a kid but I've never rely had the opportunity to do so. So I was thinking I'd go this summer! I don't wanna do the usual road trip in California or visit the Empire state building (that's usually what Swedes do when they visit ur beloved country). No, I wanna live and work over there in order to really discover America!

    This is where it gets tricky; it's virtually impossible for me to get a work visa so I would have to get paid under the table. I would never do that over here since it goes against what I believe in and I also know it can be a risky thing to do, but I'm 23 by now and life is too short.

    So what I'm asking u guys is basically if u know any bar (preferably gay), restaurant etc that might be interested in "hiring" me for the summer? Maybe u know a manager of something that needs help and who might agree for me to "help out" a couple of days a week. Or maybe u have other tips? Any advice or idea is more than welcome, please, I need ur help here!

    Take care guys,

    Challe from Sweden

    P.S. If there's something u don't want the public to know, feel free to email me instead! I always reply,, sometimes even nicely ;)
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    May 06, 2012 6:10 PM GMT
    I would try to give the best sound advice: the best shot you have if you want to work in the US is to try and get a work visa, H1 or H2 visa after you finish college. This is if you are serious of working in the US; you'll have to show someone, the potential employer, why the skills that you have is indispensable to his company, doctors, engineers, investment banker, professor etc and that he cannot find americans who would fill the job positions. The US immigration law requires that employers must give preferences to Americans since we have a high employment rate already, over 10% in some states. Bartenders or waiters are a dime a dozen and there are tons of people to fill in that position so it's impossible for an employer to go through the legal process/paperwork to hire a bartender who is going to be here only for a short stay. You know what I mean?

    2. I know it's exciting to be a bartender/waiter in a city, working a couple of nights a week and still go out to see the city, meet people and have fun. That's the fantasy world. In reality,

    a) First, It's impossible to live on a bartender income, working a few nights a week. Not to mention, you'll need a good credit score to find an apartment, actually look for an apartment in a prime location near to your work and at a great price, social security number, work authorization. For someone who has NEVER been to the US, the amount of steps nearly insurmountable.
    b)Second, dmployers are looking for someone who is willing to work diligently for a long time. Why would they want to go through the trouble of hiring someone for a short period?
    c) Lastly, I am afraid you don't have any choice but to do the tourist thing. It's not that easy to emigrate to the US just by finding a bartending job/waiter job.

    Hope it helps. icon_smile.gif Good Luck!
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    May 06, 2012 6:29 PM GMT
    US hiring has become musch more strict in the last decade. If you are not authorized to work in the US, it is not only you but also the employer who gets in big trouble.

    You will be ar better off to do the tourist thing to scope it out and then come with the proper visa when you can. I would love to spend some time in Sweden, but I doubt I could do what your ar thinking about doing in the US.
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    May 06, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
    You have more chance of being struck by lightning. Just go as a tourist, but make sure you have sufficient means to see you through your visit or you might not make it past CBP at the airport.
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    May 06, 2012 7:31 PM GMT
    since you're a college student who wants to travel to the US, why not combine the two and try to find a summer internship in the US? that's probably more practical than working at a bar/ restaurant, which you should enjoy rather than work for.
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    May 06, 2012 7:33 PM GMT
    Didn't Columbus get the credit for discovering the US? icon_wink.gif
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    May 06, 2012 7:38 PM GMT
    If you want to "Discover" America, being tied to a job is not the way. You'll only get to see and know a small area. The USA is quite large and almost every state has a slightly different culture, and all are interesting in their own way. From the food, to the accents, there is a lot to see which would require quite a bit of traveling. Just something to keep in mind... But have a good time. Your adventure will be well worth it!
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    May 06, 2012 9:06 PM GMT
    pecfan saidDidn't Columbus get the credit for discovering the US? icon_wink.gif
    You beat me to it. icon_lol.gif
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    May 06, 2012 10:21 PM GMT
    Hooey, Everyone who knows anything knows Dinah Shore discovered America in her Chevrolet.

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    May 08, 2012 11:00 AM GMT
    Thanks for ur replies, guys (and for the cocky Columbus-comments, haha)! I have to say they weren't exactly what I was looking for but u guys have still helped me in planning my summer. Right now I think I'll spend a week or two in Sitges, some time on Mykonos, a month or so at a friend's place in Biarritz and then three weeks in California in August icon_smile.gif Let me know if you're going to any of those places, too icon_smile.gif Thanks again!
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    May 08, 2012 11:47 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    pecfan saidDidn't Columbus get the credit for discovering the US? icon_wink.gif
    You beat me to it. icon_lol.gif
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    May 08, 2012 1:40 PM GMT
    You've received good advice. Come as a tourist and enjoy the sights. Most of my friends from Europe have enjoyed western US most because it is more different than what you see in Europe.

    As far as even trying do to things under the counter, not worth even trying. Not only is it a long shot as others have said, but you could jeopardize future plans you might have regarding the US.
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    May 08, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
    Look into work placement/Culture exchanges on a J1 Visa.

    I went through an organisation that allowed me to work in the US at a summer camp for two months, and then travel up until my visa ended (however, this year, they've shortened the travel period so you can only travel for 30 days, with no re entry, rather than the old up until 30th october, or when your visa runs out; whichever finishes first with re-entry).

    Anyway, Camp America, BUNAC and Camp Counsellors are the ones popular in the UK. I know for certain camp america does sweden also because i did it through them, and a few people from the camp i was at were from Sweden.

    You wont be able to do it this year though, Applications are from september, and fills up usually around February and once placed, usually go around may-june. With CA, your pretty much guaranteed a place once you've been accepted.

    For the full thing, you usually pay around 400-800 depending what company/how many years you've done it/whether you choose to go with their flights, or book your own. and depending on age and number of years doing it, get paid around 750$ - 2200$. For my first summer, i only got 575$ because i was 18, but my 2nd and 3rd got between $2100-2300 so its definitely worth going more than once.

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    May 08, 2012 1:51 PM GMT
    Better to earn a living online.

    If you know (or can learn) computer graphics or programming, you can take contract jobs and work remotely. Visit a site like elance.com, where you can bid on jobs. You can also visit the gigs section on craigslist.org. This way, you can set your own hours and location, and pays better than what a barback makes.
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    May 12, 2012 8:03 AM GMT
    I was going to mention what jwufresh said. You can work at camps and attractions (e.g. amusement parks, maybe Disney or Cedar Point).

    If you want to find cheap housing for the summer and try to do the work thing, get to a college town just as the semester ends and look to sublet a place.

    Or try something like http://www.couchsurfing.org (for shorter stays, but you can keep moving/touring).