Global War

  • conservativej...

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    May 06, 2012 5:37 PM GMT
    There will be a day when most on RealJock will say "conservativejock was right." We will see another global scale war.

    Having said that, who will initiate that war? Where will that war begin? Where will that war spread? What will be the weapons used in this war? Will this war be solely a war of governments or will there be other players involved? Will old players, long hidden, rise in this war?

    Who will suffer most in this war? Is there any entity strong enough and capable enough to alter the composition of the global population forever?

    These are times in which many wish to change the 'face' of the globe. Will they be the ones who start war or will they simply usurp the power of government to bring us to slavery?
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    May 06, 2012 6:45 PM GMT
    You can be sure, when calamity is approaching, we will think of you.
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    May 06, 2012 9:23 PM GMT
    You will not, I think, live long enough to see it. Since you fetishize violence to the point of Psychosis, you may be one of the few for which this is a curse.
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    May 06, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
    I think the world is going to plunge into a global war, and all the poor people will be made slaves to attack foreign forces with swords and stuff like the gladiators of Ancient Rome.

    And I'll be Sparticus! Bwahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! icon_twisted.gif

    After all, I DO have a sword collection. icon_wink.gif
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    May 06, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI think the world is going to plunge into a global war, and all the poor people will be made slaves to attack foreign forces with swords and stuff like the gladiators of Ancient Rome.

    And I'll be Sparticus! Bwahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! icon_twisted.gif
    And one after the other the slaves will rise and shout:
    I did Spartacus
    I did Spartacus
    I did Spartacus
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    May 06, 2012 9:59 PM GMT
    Seriously !!! If we don't break the status quo, There will be a war over 'resources' in the Middle East and mixed in it will be the exacerbating forces of religious fanatical elements from Christians, Jewish terrirorial beliefs, and Muslims.


    I'm in high hopes that since the International community has awakened on both issues, that just maybe the US Population will wake up and cast off the propaganda that keeps the status quo in place that supports these wars we've seen of late and the backing of one groups atrocities over anothers in the Middle East.

    Look up America's Christian Fundi beliefs involving the Middle East and what they back with their money, they are a scarry group indeed. Do a google search on Hagee's Christians United For Israel which he claims has the backing of some 40 million American Christians, and how they base these beliefs on old bible stories, their interpretations and Ideological prophecies.


    Many a war has been started over fanatic religious beliefs and associated land rights. Christians in America are even now falling in this class with their backing of war with Iran in thier zeal for Israel. Its all in their own writings easily found by a few google searches.
  • jock_1

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    May 07, 2012 4:59 PM GMT
    The next global war will happen in the middle east probably over oil or the fact Iran wants to nuke Isreal. If that happens God help us all !! I hope i am dead because i dont want to live through a nuclear war.
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    May 07, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
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    paulflexes saidI think the world is going to plunge into a global war, and all the poor people will be made slaves to attack foreign forces with swords and stuff like the gladiators of Ancient Rome.

    And I'll be Sparticus! Bwahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! icon_twisted.gif
    And one after the other the slaves will rise and shout:
    I did Spartacus
    I did Spartacus
    I did Spartacus
    And the crowd cries out "do him again before he kills you in the arena!"
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    May 07, 2012 6:26 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidWho will initiate that war? Where will that war begin? Where will that war spread? What will be the weapons used in this war? Will this war be solely a war of governments or will there be other players involved? Will old players, long hidden, rise in this war?


    As almost always, the war will be started by the world's most militaristic, agressive and imperialistic state: the US. It will cetainly be very destructive and disruptive and will most likely start in and mostly affect the Middle East. Oil for $200-300 per barrel anyone?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 07, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
    jock_1 saidThe next global war will happen in the middle east probably over oil or the fact Iran wants to nuke Isreal. If that happens God help us all !! I hope i am dead because i dont want to live through a nuclear war.


    I agree that it will probably start in the middle east, sadly probably with something really horrific happening in Israel that may cause them to retaliate in such a way that it sparks WW3. The U.S. will have no choice but to become involved. It's a really scary thought, and I truly believe this is something that could happen in our life time. Tensions have become so severe in various parts of the world, and the world economy so fragile, that something is bound to snap --- probably sooner rather than later.
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    May 07, 2012 9:00 PM GMT
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    jock_1 saidThe next global war will happen in the middle east probably over oil or the fact Iran wants to nuke Isreal. If that happens God help us all !! I hope i am dead because i dont want to live through a nuclear war.


    I agree that it will probably start in the middle east, sadly probably with something really horrific happening in Israel that may cause them to retaliate in such a way that it sparks WW3. The U.S. will have no choice but to become involved. It's a really scary thought, and I truly believe this is something that could happen in our life time. Tensions have become so severe in various parts of the world, and the world economy so fragile, that something is bound to snap --- probably sooner rather than later.


    Nah - being an optimist, I hope you're wrong. First, the history: violence and wars have been decreasing drastically over time. What is lacking is context -

    http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/pinker07/pinker07_index.html

    In sixteenth-century Paris, a popular form of entertainment was cat-burning, in which a cat was hoisted in a sling on a stage and slowly lowered into a fire. According to historian Norman Davies, "[T]he spectators, including kings and queens, shrieked with laughter as the animals, howling with pain, were singed, roasted, and finally carbonized." Today, such sadism would be unthinkable in most of the world. This change in sensibilities is just one example of perhaps the most important and most underappreciated trend in the human saga: Violence has been in decline over long stretches of history, and today we are probably living in the most peaceful moment of our species' time on earth.


    We are increasingly integrated with respect to trade which increases dependence. It is not by accident that there hadn't been two countries with a Mcdonald's that had ever gone to war until the Balkans.

    I think history will also show that the peak of our dependence of oil in despotic countries has since passed. Technology improvements in extraction have meant the rise in production within the US and Canada, but also the extraction of alternatives like natural gas (look to see the rise of LNG/CNG fueled logistics in the coming years) with natural gas a fraction of the cost of oil. But I think we will find that natural gas is just a bridge technology to improvements in solar and nuclear - where we are already seeing massive transformative technologies only beginning to be implemented.

    It is stunning in a sense that there exists solar that can be sustainable without subsidies now and costs seem to continue to fall following an innovation curve not dissimilar to Moore's law.

    Despite my optimism, it would be unwise not to prepare for the worst... "Si vis pacem, para bellum"
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    May 07, 2012 9:04 PM GMT
    Radamisto said
    conservativejock saidWho will initiate that war? Where will that war begin? Where will that war spread? What will be the weapons used in this war? Will this war be solely a war of governments or will there be other players involved? Will old players, long hidden, rise in this war?


    As almost always, the war will be started by the world's most militaristic, agressive and imperialistic state: the US. It will cetainly be very destructive and disruptive and will most likely start in and mostly affect the Middle East. Oil for $200-300 per barrel anyone?


    Do you have a tin hat to go with that? The US has been a driving force for stability - good or bad through modern history/warfare. My criticism is that the lack of recognition through realpolitik that the absence of war is not peace. Saudi Arabia may well succumb to zealots - but they are also likely very much be deserving of the resentment they've sown domestically. But if that's the case, expect Europe not the US to be clamoring for an intervention given their dependence on the Saudis exceeds that of the Americans.
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    May 08, 2012 12:29 AM GMT
    Radamisto said
    conservativejock saidWho will initiate that war? Where will that war begin? Where will that war spread? What will be the weapons used in this war? Will this war be solely a war of governments or will there be other players involved? Will old players, long hidden, rise in this war?


    As almost always, the war will be started by the world's most militaristic, agressive and imperialistic state: the US. It will cetainly be very destructive and disruptive and will most likely start in and mostly affect the Middle East. Oil for $200-300 per barrel anyone?


    You know so much??

    So exactly how many wars has the United States actually started?? Seems to me that in most cases the US has been drawn into wars by other countries or countries that need our help.
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    May 08, 2012 1:04 AM GMT
    Negative Ghostrider's, mankind will be too busy fighting a global war against the ancient aliens who are returning this December that are out to plunder the earth. icon_eek.gif Geezzz, am I the only one who watches the history channel?:
  • DalTX

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    May 08, 2012 1:09 AM GMT
    Your tinfoil hat is too tight.
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    May 08, 2012 1:16 AM GMT
    DalTX saidYour tinfoil hat is too tight.


    Thanks didn't get my hair cut this week.
  • DalTX

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    May 08, 2012 1:18 AM GMT
    rendon said
    DalTX saidYour tinfoil hat is too tight.


    Thanks didn't get my hair cut this week.


    Not you! I meant conservative"jock"
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    May 08, 2012 1:24 AM GMT
    I'm with Riddler on this one !!! I think people are waking up to the fact that there is a whole lot of hype going on and we are too interdependent to repeat the bullshit just as with the lead up to Iraq. Too many of us learned from that trip down the war road chasing something that wasn't there.

    Besides even top officials from Israel itself have admitted that IRAN DID NOT THREATEN TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP !! Read people !!! READ !!! don't just listen to the Mainstream Media here in the US. You can read even Israeli Sites right next to Iran, where the fear should be the highest and you'll learn that things are not as we are told here in the US. Read Haaretz News.

    Cooler heads will prevail and I don't believe we will go to war with Iran, I think Riddler is right, there is too much at stake to allow Israel's Netanyahu and his Neo Cons over there and here in the US to take us into another war like with Afghanistand and Iraq. Talks are going on right now to stop war with Iran.



    Best thing we can all do is read a wide veriety of material from all sides and set aside the manipulated US Maintstream Media, then spread the real news, not FAUX type news..


    Only thing is Riddler, you inferred that the US is Peace loving, but sorry, going to war with Iraq, as totally unecessary and expensive as that was, is a very deep scar on the US reputation and it was not a peaceful thing for us to do. But we paid attention to our Mainstream media and what did it get us ?