France elects a socialist President:

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    May 07, 2012 3:34 AM GMT
    Will it be next to go bankrupt like Socialist Greece?

    The French will probably live to regret their socialist move. It has never worked and never will.
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    May 07, 2012 3:47 AM GMT
    France will be just fine. Putting aside rhetorics and empty electoral promises, there are no major differences between Sarko and Hollande. In France everyone is a socialist you see...
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    May 07, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    We have a Socialist minded President right here in the US- and if he gets in 4 more years it will break our economy as well!!
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    May 07, 2012 4:50 AM GMT
    It's Europe, even the conservatives are socialists.

    We are too just socialists in denial.
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    May 07, 2012 4:53 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidWe have a Socialist minded President right here in the US- and if he gets in 4 more years it will break our economy as well!!

    Some comparisons here:
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2350545
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    May 07, 2012 6:51 AM GMT
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    TrueBlueAussie saidFrance elects a socialist President:

    Geez, TBA....didn't you say you were gonna kill yourself if that happened?

    Or was that just a dream? icon_neutral.gif




    A beautiful, perfect, wonderful dream......sigh. icon_sad.gif



    Just kidding, big guy....you know how I like to yank your chain [ewww] pull your leg [err....nope] tease you mercilessly.

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    I know your just one of the good guys with a heart of gold, who wants nothing but to hug a tree and world peace.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    But dear half brother you can sleep tight in knowing one is not about to hurt ones self, and after surviving the Gay Plague Era standing by my community when so many like yourself fled and did nothing to help us in our darkest years when we were put on our knees from sickness and death, and witnessing so many mates getting sick and dying. The fact that I have lived to turn 50, when so many of my brothers did not, and I have since thieved and been blessed to of had the sun of good fortune shine down on my life; I am also blessed not to fear death either, as I have survived and lived; I am one truly luck, and truly loved man. So you can use these thoughts to help keep you warm at night, and now having the knowledge too, one is not about to take ones life either.

    But my heart is full of love for you dear half brother, and I always pray that you will find the inner peace and love that I have someday, and since you are one of the good guys you would never wish harm on a brother.
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    May 07, 2012 7:02 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    MikemikeMike saidWe have a Socialist minded President right here in the US- and if he gets in 4 more years it will break our economy as well!!

    Some comparisons here:
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2350545



    icon_eek.gif But it's not to late this can be prevented in the USA, and to also think the last King of France lost his head all because he wanted to introduce equality in taxation, meaning the Catholic Bishops would also have to start too pay taxation; now one looks back and ponders has France ever been any better off since that revolution; seems it's going backwards.
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    May 07, 2012 9:00 AM GMT
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    TrueBlueAussie saidFrance elects a socialist President:

    Geez, TBA....didn't you say you were gonna kill yourself if that happened?

    Or was that just a dream? icon_neutral.gif




    A beautiful, perfect, wonderful dream......sigh. icon_sad.gif



    Just kidding, big guy....you know how I like to yank your chain [ewww] pull your leg [err....nope] tease you mercilessly.

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    Sometimes in life you miss someone so much you pick them from your dreams, because you want to hug them so much; you love me you really do! But none of this is to do with this thread, of the predicament France may well be in. But you had to show me you careicon_redface.gif
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    May 07, 2012 10:00 AM GMT
    Adam228 saidIt's Europe, even the conservatives are socialists.

    We are too just socialists in denial.


    Must be why the EU is floundering?
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    May 07, 2012 10:24 AM GMT
    TrueBlueAussie saidI know your just one of the good guys with a heart of gold, who wants nothing but to hug a tree and world peace.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    F*ck I think you just achieved the impossible - a positive comment from TBA!
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    May 07, 2012 10:37 AM GMT
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    TrueBlueAussie saidI know your just one of the good guys with a heart of gold, who wants nothing but to hug a tree and world peace.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    F*ck I think you just achieved the impossible - a positive comment from TBA!


    Mate I make them all the time, they must just go over your head; you know contempt can be truly blinding to many truths.
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    May 07, 2012 10:44 AM GMT
    Well they must be hidden amongst all the condescension!
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    May 07, 2012 11:38 PM GMT
    ozgreenguy saidWell they must be hidden amongst all the condescension!


    Giggles if you feel one has and air of superiority, you need to deal with your low self esteem, but you do try to bring one down, but one being a True Blue Aussie, I already have a less formal and dignified level of being; seems you may suffer from tall poppy syndrome; yet you overlook, turn a blind eye to all the brutality from the liberal pack of wolves I myself and other have to endure here at RJ.
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    May 08, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
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    TrueBlueAussie said
    ozgreenguy saidWell they must be hidden amongst all the condescension!


    Giggles if you feel one has and air of superiority, you need to deal with your low self esteem, but you do try to bring one down, but one being a True Blue Aussie, I already have a less formal and dignified level of being; seems you may suffer from tall poppy syndrome; yet you overlook, turn a blind eye to all the brutality from the liberal pack of wolves I myself and other have to endure here at RJ.

    So....you see us all as "impure bisexuals" and you the "pure gold card 100%" gay who needs his own moniker to be distinguishable from the rest of us, but without any sense of superiority? I'm sorry, TBA...I had you all wrong.


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    You really have issues with pure and impure now don't you. Not my issue to deal with, it's yours. I am not responcible for your past or actions; You are! Nor the fact we are not one of the same, thus stand under diffrent banners.


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    May 08, 2012 12:10 AM GMT
    TrueBlueAussie said
    yourname8000 said
    TrueBlueAussie saidFrance elects a socialist President:

    Geez, TBA....didn't you say you were gonna kill yourself if that happened?

    Or was that just a dream? icon_neutral.gif




    A beautiful, perfect, wonderful dream......sigh. icon_sad.gif



    Just kidding, big guy....you know how I like to yank your chain [ewww] pull your leg [err....nope] tease you mercilessly.

    icon_lol.gif


    I know your just one of the good guys with a heart of gold, who wants nothing but to hug a tree and world peace.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    But dear half brother you can sleep tight in knowing one is not about to hurt ones self, and after surviving the Gay Plague Era standing by my community when so many like yourself fled and did nothing to help us in our darkest years when we were put on our knees from sickness and death, and witnessing so many mates getting sick and dying. The fact that I have lived to turn 50, when so many of my brothers did not, and I have since thieved and been blessed to of had the sun of good fortune shine down on my life; I am also blessed not to fear death either, as I have survived and lived; I am one truly luck, and truly loved man. So you can use these thoughts to help keep you warm at night, and now having the knowledge too, one is not about to take ones life either.

    But my heart is full of love for you dear half brother, and I always pray that you will find the inner peace and love that I have someday, and since you are one of the good guys you would never wish harm on a brother.


    One waits with baited breath for your reply.

    Now one of the good guys as you see yourself, would never wish another to be dead now would they, or to self harm; only a very sick mind would do that; now would it not.
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    May 08, 2012 12:33 AM GMT
    Why are you always trying to seperate yourself from everyone else on here - do you consider yourself to be of royal RJ blood - the reigning Monarch of Real Jock?
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    May 08, 2012 1:20 AM GMT
    You would think Europe would have learned by now. Di you know Spain has 23% unemployment? All because of socialized Government run country, without private sector jobs. The Us will soon follow if they don't get this POTUS outta the White House. But the US elected a socialist in it's last election too, and of course France will bankrupt and the US wont be fore behind.

    maybe France should of went to germany at the end of WWII.
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    May 08, 2012 6:48 AM GMT
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    yourname8000 said
    TrueBlueAussie saidFrance elects a socialist President:

    Geez, TBA....didn't you say you were gonna kill yourself if that happened?

    Or was that just a dream? icon_neutral.gif




    A beautiful, perfect, wonderful dream......sigh. icon_sad.gif



    Just kidding, big guy....you know how I like to yank your chain [ewww] pull your leg [err....nope] tease you mercilessly.

    icon_lol.gif


    I know your just one of the good guys with a heart of gold, who wants nothing but to hug a tree and world peace.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    But dear half brother you can sleep tight in knowing one is not about to hurt ones self, and after surviving the Gay Plague Era standing by my community when so many like yourself fled and did nothing to help us in our darkest years when we were put on our knees from sickness and death, and witnessing so many mates getting sick and dying. The fact that I have lived to turn 50, when so many of my brothers did not, and I have since thieved and been blessed to of had the sun of good fortune shine down on my life; I am also blessed not to fear death either, as I have survived and lived; I am one truly luck, and truly loved man. So you can use these thoughts to help keep you warm at night, and now having the knowledge too, one is not about to take ones life either.

    But my heart is full of love for you dear half brother, and I always pray that you will find the inner peace and love that I have someday, and since you are one of the good guys you would never wish harm on a brother.


    One waits with baited breath for your reply.

    Now one of the good guys as you see yourself, would never wish another to be dead now would they, or to self harm; only a very sick mind would do that; now would it not.


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    May 08, 2012 7:03 AM GMT
    @TBA - it seems very apparent that you seem to regard yourself as superior to others due to you living through the Aids epidemic of the 80s/90s. You seem to also resent those of us lucky enough to not have had to live through it or those who were unfortunate enough to become infected. This I have no doubt stems from loosing someone/s close to you during this dark period for the gay community ( a time during which it sounds your sensible personal choices saved you from the terrible fate that others unfortunately met).

    On a different note more related to this topic, You do like to be very political on the forums, particularly regarding overseas politics. Perhaps a federal political career is your true calling?
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    May 08, 2012 7:53 AM GMT
    @yourname8000 - sounds like you definitely lived through it. I doubt very much that TBA will provide any such insights into his involvement though. He loves pointing the finger but give away nothing about his true self like the scared man in the closet with a wife and kids he is always negatively preaching about (men i might say have typically the same with similar pOlitical views!)
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    May 08, 2012 9:31 AM GMT
    yourname8000 said^^^^ There's not much to say TBA...just a bunch of sad memories.

    I came out (and left home) at 15 and moved to Vancouver one year before AIDS hit there. I was poor, horny, decent looking and worked in various afterhours clubs in the gay community and partied my ass off for several years. I lived for a time in a communal house half a block from St Pauls Hospital and while there 3 of my roommates had AIDS. This was the time of AZT at best.

    Jerry could not get up to his room and for 6 months lived on a gurney in our livingroom as his body slowly rotted away. In the end, he looked like "sloth" from the movie Se7en, only with his stomach distended like a starving child in Africa. He was in constant pain. Later, in my 20s I lived with my dear friend Lloyd in Kelowna. He was healthy for a long time, but when he got sick his bitch mother took control of his life blaming all of his gay friends for his disease. It took about a year until he died of brain cancer. His mother wouldn't let anyone but family see him...his boyfriend and I were devastated, but thankfully his sister would sneak us in from time to time when mother was away. In end, he was like he must have been as a 5yo....he discovered that he loved yogurt...everyday, again and again and again.

    The number of good friends who died of AIDS, drugs or suicide is well into the double digits. I've volunteered for PWA. I've marched in Pride Parades when people hid when the TV cameras showed up because they didn't want to get fired at work.

    It's taken 20 years for me to reconcile my first 25. At this point, I'm not afraid of a pissing match with anyone over who stood by during the rough times. I was a "club kid". I was in the middle of it. And yes, it was a seriously fucked up time.

    Thankfully, "it got better". icon_wink.gif


    Now we have talked about much of this in the past. You left out how you also ate a lot of pussy during this time too.

    Now I working in the eye of the storm, and I have shared in depth many a time here at RJ, my experiences during the gay plague era, working in the eye of the storm, and the abuse I was to get for being so open the first time I was to share here at RJ, even death threats from a guy here who is HIV+ and some one who is a friend now here at RJ. Oh there is a lot of sadness back then, death was all around one. But just recently I was to talk about how good my life is, and the fact now I am 50 I have a lot to smile about, and am thankful to of had the sun of good fortune shine down on me and bless my life. But saddly the pack of wolves here, suffer from a blindness, that prevents them from being able to see anything good in someone who may vote conservative; how blind they're and your hate is.icon_wink.gif

    But you also have shared with one how you went and hid away too, eating girls out. OMG I have lived and survived the most amazing life. I truly have a lot to smile about, and thank the sun of good fortune for shining down on my life and blessing it so much.
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    May 08, 2012 9:35 AM GMT
    ozgreenguy said@yourname8000 - sounds like you definitely lived through it. I doubt very much that TBA will provide any such insights into his involvement though. He loves pointing the finger but give away nothing about his true self like the scared man in the closet with a wife and kids he is always negatively preaching about (men i might say have typically the same with similar pOlitical views!)



    cupcake you just love to put words in ones mouth. Now go deal with your low self esteem, and build a bridge and get over it. When I first come out it was illegal to be a homosexual in my state, and homosexuality was also classed as a mental health issue too, thus you could be removed from jobs like the police force if found out, for having a mental health issue. I was proactive in changing both, having one decriminalised, and the other removed from the mental health act; then we had to deal with the gay plague era. I stood by our community when so many did not, and it was a good time for our half brothers the bisexuals to be with their wives and kids, because it was not always safe to be seen as a homosexual and having a cold. Funny the other night at work on night shift one was to talk all about this Gay Plague Era, and what it was like, and I was also very open about having a truly fucking good time too, and I had been in contact with the HIV virus many a time. yet at 50 I am still HIV-. Yes there is a lot of pain associated to that era, sickness, death and murder was all around me.

    But after the Gay Plague Era, and standing by a community during a time when so many did not, a time was to come for one to move back to the bush were I worked as a lumber Jack for a number of years, healing from what I had seen and been though. Then when the time come foe me to move back to the city and get on with life in the city again, I was to walk straight into the relationship I am still in to this very day; 20+ years latter. Oh I and my life has been so very blessed. But if it helps you to in vision one being bitter, then do so as it takes nothing away from the qulity of my life. Oh after the in depth discussion I was to have with the medical staff I work with; it was suggested i should be talking with school children, as they should hear what one had to sayicon_wink.gif


    I'm off to watch the budget, to see how my the left are going to fuck up Oz before we vote them out.

    I stand proude and tall as a Bona fide Homosexual, and thats nothing to feel shame about. Now if one does in fact point the finger, then thats because people with dirty hands here pointed the finger first at one.icon_idea.gif
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    May 08, 2012 9:37 AM GMT
    TrueBlueAussie saidYou would think Europe would have learned by now. Di you know Spain has 23% unemployment? All because of socialized Government run country, without private sector jobs. The Us will soon follow if they don't get this POTUS outta the White House. But the US elected a socialist in it's last election too, and of course France will bankrupt and the US wont be fore behind.

    maybe France should of went to germany at the end of WWII.


    Down Under is awaiting for an election so we can vote out our communist party labour and after the damage they have done to Oz this time around, the party may not be around for the next elections; we can only pray.
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    May 08, 2012 10:06 AM GMT
    yourname8000 said
    TrueBlueAussie said
    yourname8000 said....

    Thankfully, "it got better". icon_wink.gif

    You left out how you also ate a lot of pussy during this time too.

    Once. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Your memory is the same calibre as your fitness routine.

    I try things so I can make an informed decision.



    Oh no you were to lead one to belive and think it was more than once; now you want to change what you told one, and I recall well you being very clear that you ate lots of pussy, and loved it. Thus one has always considered you as a half brother ever since, as you are not Bona Fide, because after all a Bona fide homosexual would never ever even do it once; never!

    Oh and you know nothing of ones fitness routine, thus my memory.icon_idea.gificon_razz.gifYou just now want to change the truth because it suits you to attack one.

    Just as I'm sure all those who are still alive today from the 1980s and hid away during our darkest years. But have since come back to play and support the gay community now that it's safe to do so, would not want to face the truth of their very own actions, but would attack others like myself for talking about them. No it';s imported we do not forget the actions of our communities during that time, and allow history to be rewritten.
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    May 08, 2012 10:07 AM GMT
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    TrueBlueAussie saidYou would think Europe would have learned by now. Di you know Spain has 23% unemployment? All because of socialized Government run country, without private sector jobs. The Us will soon follow if they don't get this POTUS outta the White House. But the US elected a socialist in it's last election too, and of course France will bankrupt and the US wont be fore behind.

    maybe France should of went to germany at the end of WWII.


    Down Under is awaiting for an election so we can vote out our communist party labour and after the damage they have done to Oz this time around, the party may not be around for the next elections; we can only pray.


    How the world in recent years has gone backwards, it's time to start to move forward agin.