The mystery of iniquity

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    May 09, 2012 9:18 AM GMT
    Imagine a Realjock without race and religion threads

    It's not hard, if you try

    Imagine all the people...

    Lol Seriously, though, what kind of realjocker are you by nature? Do you enjoy the controversial topics? Are you the guy who's always running for popcorn and putting up Brenda pics? Do you, on some level, enjoy the flaming, the bloodshed and the tears, even if you get caught in the cross-fire? Come on, fess up, don't be shy. I like violent movies with foul language, so I can relate. Some of you will want to demonstrate that impulse on this thread. No doubt you will, no matter what I say. So I'm bracing myself

    Or are you at the other end of that spectrum - a peaceful, gentle soul (yawn) that wants to read long, politically sensitive, diplomatic, insightful posts instead of concise, brutally candid and downright rude jabs? Come on, fess up, don't be shy. I have a weakness for nice guys, a penchant for vanilla sex and the whole picket fence thing, so I can relate. Some of you will want to demonstrate that impulse on this thread. No doubt you will. I'll keep an eye open for your comments.

    Why is it that when a person of metaphysical persuasion X posts a question that can be best answered by persons of similar metaphysical persuasion, you get persons of metaphysical persuasion Other-Than-X running in and saying that position X is really stupid, as is any question that presupposes the validity of viewpoint X? If a person is so convinced that X is wrong, isn't it more effective to gently explain why X is wrong, instead of tearing X-adherents apart?

    In the same vein, why is it that when someone understands himself to have experienced a certain race-related phenomenon repeatedly, you get posters who come in, not to gently open the person's eyes to the possibility that race-neutral factors are at play, but to moan about how that person is whining?

    Why, if a newbie comes in with any type of question, however innocent ("I'm too shy to talk to guys at college"), do we get some people who gently point out how that similar questions had been handled in 48 previous threads - but in some cases, you get very hostile and impatient people posting the links to those threads, along with hostile/impatient comments?

    Why do you get people who nit-pick innocent statements apart, highlight all the malice that wasn't noticed by anyone else (because no malice was intended) and in so doing, "expose" the poster as a really bad/rude person? Why these extremes of hyper-sensitivity and insensitivity? Someone will read the first line of this paragraph ("Why do you...") and take offense to the "you", read into it something that wasn't necessarily there, as in "you people", and make an issue of it. How do people who take offense at innocent stuff like that not have chronic headaches?

    Isn't it easier to say something constructive, or say nothing at all?

    Is the internet the new playground where it's okay to be a jerk and spew out all of your bottled-up poison? We can't do it on playgrounds, roads and workplaces anymore - the world is starting to say "No!" to bullying there. So has the internet become the new outlet for some of the worst emotions churning inside of us? Would you be okay if everyone you knew could read everything you've ever said online?

    Are these questions even worth reflecting on, or is there no need to assess ourselves as individuals - we can just say and do whatever? Is that what "freedom of speech" means? Are we over-analyzing the way people treat one another, or are there trends that we need to look out for?
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    May 09, 2012 2:17 PM GMT
    The_Watchers saidImagine a Realjock without race and religion threads
    That would be like an atmosphere without nitrogen and oxygen.
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    May 09, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
    The_Watchers said

    In the same vein, why is it that when someone understands himself to have experienced a certain race-related phenomenon repeatedly, you get posters who come in, not to gently open the person's eyes to the possibility that race-neutral factors are at play, but to moan about how that person is whining?



    because their most likely people who have contributed to the "Race-Related Phenomenon" themselves at one point in time or another. Especially if their American. I can't speak for other countries, but if you ask a lot of people from the mainstream community if racism exist in America, they'll probably say no, which I find funny. About a year ago, I came to the conclusion that a Black person trying to explain any kind of injustice or race related discrimination to someone who isn't Black is like a human trying to converse with a fish hoping that it will understand and speak back....ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN

    NIHILISM & VANITY = LIFE for a lot of us unfortunately. Humans are animals, brute creatures. Our impending demise only makes sense.I've lost faith in man...or maybe i'm just bitter because I can't get one. Than again, I'm delusional, so wtf do I know?.
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    May 09, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    The_Watchers saidImagine a Realjock without race and religion threads
    That would be like an atmosphere without nitrogen and oxygen.


    It is a staple, isn't it?
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    May 09, 2012 9:24 PM GMT
    Supra89 said
    The_Watchers said

    In the same vein, why is it that when someone understands himself to have experienced a certain race-related phenomenon repeatedly, you get posters who come in, not to gently open the person's eyes to the possibility that race-neutral factors are at play, but to moan about how that person is whining?



    because their most likely people who have contributed to the "Race-Related Phenomenon" themselves at one point in time or another. Especially if their American. I can't speak for other countries, but if you ask a lot of people from the mainstream community if racism exist in America, they'll probably say no, which I find funny. About a year ago, I came to the conclusion that a Black person trying to explain any kind of injustice or race related discrimination to someone who isn't Black is like a human trying to converse with a fish hoping that it will understand and speak back....ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN

    NIHILISM & VANITY = LIFE for a lot of us unfortunately. Humans are animals, brute creatures. Our impending demise only makes sense.I've lost faith in man...or maybe i'm just bitter because I can't get one. Than again, I'm delusional, so wtf do I know?.


    I read your profile. You may be crazy (perhaps as a result of needing a good lay - you mentioned something about not being able to get a man ;-), but you're not delusional. Remember these lyrics, and do not forget them: "I was out of touch...it wasn't because I didn't know enough. I just knew too much."

    You speak of "man's inevitable demise". Expand... ?

    Re the racism - everyone's entitled to a little selective amnesia every now and then, because we all abuse the privilege anyway. Besides, the people you're asking are probably telling you the truth: they never have contributed to racism. I know where you're coming from, but you'd have to be omniscient to justify not giving them the benefit of the doubt to which they are entitled.

    (I am now voluntarily basting myself in BBQ sauce because I know I'm gonna get flamed lol)
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    May 09, 2012 9:26 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk said


    If these were directed at me - I'll check them out tomorrow