Obama and some of my gay friends views on it, pretty annoying to me!

  • CalebKM

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    May 10, 2012 1:10 AM GMT
    Ok, I understand that he mentions he agrees with same sex marriage late into presidency and shortly before re-election..got it. The thing is though, I'm running across gay and lesbian's vocalizing anger towards him for "taking too long" or "mentioning it because of re-election". Personally, I DON'T CARE! The fact that he and the Vice President went on national television to express positive views on our rights for marriage and complete equality is heart warming. I don't care if it's because he wants to be re-elected, I planned on voting for him regardless..the fact that he (technically they), said it means a lot to me. I personally don't see myself wanting to get married but if I choose to do so I should have every right as an American and a tax payer. I love how we are supposed to keep religion and politics separate, yet it's always merging!

    Well my fellow LGBT community, I'm thankful for what was recently said and I encourage more speeches on it, whether or not he does much about it is fine with me. It's better then Romney and many others outright saying "NO!". It's a positive step for us and our RIGHTS as human beings, if you can't see the good in what was said then you don't deserve the right to understand. Positive energy will bring positive outcome and I'm going to push for it! Let's not just talk about America being the land of the free, let's make it a reality in every sense and remove hatred and bigotry. President Barack Obama 2012!! Ciao!!
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    Very good thread. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 10, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide. If gay marriage is a "civil right" you don't as the President of the USA say, well, I can't do anything about discrimination - it's a state by state issue.

    You don't do that. We didn't do that with slavery. We didn't do that with Roe v Wade.


    So I missed that historic case before the Supreme Court concerning Marriage Equality? Where have I been?
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    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide.
    That's a helluva lot better than YOUR candidate has done, which was sign a document stating that he'd be in support of having a constitutional amendment to FEDERALLY BAN GAY MARRIAGE COMPLETELY.

    Take your nigger-hate elsewhere.
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    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide. If gay marriage is a "civil right" you don't as the President of the USA say, well, I can't do anything about discrimination - it's a state by state issue


    If marriage equality should be banned at the federal level as homophobic Republican Mitt Romney says, no one in any state can do anything about marriage equality.

    The President supports gay marriage. Mitt Romney does not think gays should be able to marry. The President does not support amending state or federal Constitutions to deny gay couples freedom and equality. Mitt Romney wants gays relegated to second-class status at the state AND federal level. Mitt Romney hates gays so much, he does not even support civil unions.

    Mitt Romney is a homophobe for whom no American who believes in justice, freedom, equality, or liberty should cast a vote.
  • nanidesukedo

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    May 10, 2012 2:51 AM GMT
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    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide. If gay marriage is a "civil right" you don't as the President of the USA say, well, I can't do anything about discrimination - it's a state by state issue


    If marriage equality should be banned at the federal level as homophobic Republican Mitt Romney says, no one in any state can do anything about marriage equality.

    The President supports gay marriage. Mitt Romney does not think gays should be able to marry. The President does not support amending state or federal Constitutions to deny gay couples freedom and equality. Mitt Romney wants gays relegated to second-class status at the state AND federal level. Mitt Romney hates gays so much, he does not even support civil unions.

    Mitt Romney is a homophobe for whom no American who believes in justice, freedom, equality, or liberty should cast a vote.


    Stop trying to argue with him...The fact of the matter is this: He and his ilk have bitched since day one that Obama doesn't support Gay marriage...every single thread he always bitches about it...now that Obama does, he has to work hard to spin it and try to turn it into something negative - it's a sign of desperation on his part, and it's showing terribly.

    Frankly, Southbeach, be happy that the President of our country thinks that you are a human deserving of equal rights. I expect fully that you will boycott any advances on gay marriage and rights until it reaches EXACTLY the point that you want it to...or until a republican admits that gays may not be the spawn of Satan. The second Romney comes out saying that gays aren't the spawn of Satan, you'll twist it into some amazing revelation and celebratory speech.

    Are you dizzy from your spinning yet, Southbeach?
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    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide. If gay marriage is a "civil right" you don't as the President of the USA say, well, I can't do anything about discrimination - it's a state by state issue.

    You don't do that. We didn't do that with slavery. We didn't do that with Roe v Wade.



    So you don't like Obama, we get it. But this support and endorsement for gay marriage from him is way better than the signature and support of Romney to ban same sex marriage. Anyone who has simple common sense and sympathy for human rights would certainly agree. So let me ask you, Mr. southbeach1500, are you not agreeing with that?

    Better late than never that he mentioned something. At least he changed his mind and view this social issue into a positive light.

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    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide. If gay marriage is a "civil right" you don't as the President of the USA say, well, I can't do anything about discrimination - it's a state by state issue.

    You don't do that. We didn't do that with slavery. We didn't do that with Roe v Wade.


    He said exactly what a FORMER vice president has said number of times.
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    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide. If gay marriage is a "civil right" you don't as the President of the USA say, well, I can't do anything about discrimination - it's a state by state issue


    If marriage equality should be banned at the federal level as homophobic Republican Mitt Romney says, no one in any state can do anything about marriage equality.

    The President supports gay marriage. Mitt Romney does not think gays should be able to marry. The President does not support amending state or federal Constitutions to deny gay couples freedom and equality. Mitt Romney wants gays relegated to second-class status at the state AND federal level. Mitt Romney hates gays so much, he does not even support civil unions.

    Mitt Romney is a homophobe for whom no American who believes in justice, freedom, equality, or liberty should cast a vote.


    I'm voting for Romney.
  • CalebKM

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    May 10, 2012 9:59 PM GMT
    Voting for Romney show's ones intellect, you'll regret it believe me. Studies show Republicans are ignorant and incapable of broad thinking, they're everything we don't want or need in this world. Let me show you idiots what you want running our country, you foolish ignorant backwards bigot. Voting for your worst enemy.


    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/mitt-romney-apologizes-dumb-things-did-prep-school-152935856.html
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    I say well done to Obama. He may have taken his time but it's a big issue and shows true character that he made the right decision.
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    May 10, 2012 10:11 PM GMT
    Better late than never (Romney?)
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    TroyAthlete said
    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide. If gay marriage is a "civil right" you don't as the President of the USA say, well, I can't do anything about discrimination - it's a state by state issue


    If marriage equality should be banned at the federal level as homophobic Republican Mitt Romney says, no one in any state can do anything about marriage equality.

    The President supports gay marriage. Mitt Romney does not think gays should be able to marry. The President does not support amending state or federal Constitutions to deny gay couples freedom and equality. Mitt Romney wants gays relegated to second-class status at the state AND federal level. Mitt Romney hates gays so much, he does not even support civil unions.

    Mitt Romney is a homophobe for whom no American who believes in justice, freedom, equality, or liberty should cast a vote.


    I'm voting for Romney.


    I'm sure 2 black people voted for Donald Duke and Strom Thurmond because of their economic policies. But those 2 that did were fantastic, consummate, self hating, self flagellating idiots of the highest order. And so are gay people who vote for those diametrically opposed to homosexuals. In case you missed it, they are fantastic, consummate, self hating, self flagellating idiots of the highest order.
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    May 10, 2012 10:15 PM GMT
    Athough I generally dislike Democratic positions more so than I do Republican ones (read that carefully: I generally dislike *both* parties) ...

    ... if Romney is the GOP nominee - and nothing short of a miracle seems likely to change the likelihood of Romney's selection as nominee - I will not be able to vote for him in good conscience.

    I'll probably vote for Obama.
  • CalebKM

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    May 10, 2012 10:22 PM GMT
    What people need to really understand and consume into their brains is we have a President who is the first to FULLY accept, acknowledge and back equal rights and marriage for us. With his positive statements is a MAJOR step for our community, when America sees that a man who supports us to the FULLEST it could really alter future Presidents. Don't be stupid people, do the right thing for you, me and everyone in our community. Our future generations are effected by this as well, if Romney goes into office we're back to square one. In that case we mine as well hide in dark corners and rot away, be smart about this because we DESERVE this. Without a strong backbone we have NOTHING, Obama 2012! icon_smile.gif
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    CalebKM saidOk, I understand that he mentions he agrees with same sex marriage late into presidency and shortly before re-election..got it. The thing is though, I'm running across gay and lesbian's vocalizing anger towards him for "taking too long" or "mentioning it because of re-election". Personally, I DON'T CARE! The fact that he and the Vice President went on national television to express positive views on our rights for marriage and complete equality is heart warming. I don't care if it's because he wants to be re-elected, I planned on voting for him regardless..the fact that he (technically they), said it means a lot to me. I personally don't see myself wanting to get married but if I choose to do so I should have every right as an American and a tax payer. I love how we are supposed to keep religion and politics separate, yet it's always merging!

    Well my fellow LGBT community, I'm thankful for what was recently said and I encourage more speeches on it, whether or not he does much about it is fine with me. It's better then Romney and many others outright saying "NO!". It's a positive step for us and our RIGHTS as human beings, if you can't see the good in what was said then you don't deserve the right to understand. Positive energy will bring positive outcome and I'm going to push for it! Let's not just talk about America being the land of the free, let's make it a reality in every sense and remove hatred and bigotry. President Barack Obama 2012!! Ciao!!


    Dont waste your time or energy on these people. Focus on the big picture and help get Obama re-elected. Get out there, get involved, donate your time and money, and vote!
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    JPtheBITCH saidRomney's spokesman announced this afternoon that he will campaign on a constitutional amendment to ban marriage.



    But you know what they say- no big deal if he's working against us because he probably can't get the votes for a constitutional amendment so there's no problem voting for him. Who cares if he not only wants to veto laws that would give us rights, but also wants to enact laws to restrict our rights? We got bigger things to worry about.



    http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/05/10/481772/romney-adviser-gillespie-constitutional-marriage-ba/?mobile=nc

    "Ed Gillespie, senior adviser to Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, told Chuck Todd on MSNBC’s Daily Rundown that the campaign would make President Obama’s support for marriage equality an issue this November and that Romney will actively push for a constitutional amendment to take away the right of states to voluntarily extend marriage equality to same-sex couples."
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    CalebKM saidOk, I understand that he mentions he agrees with same sex marriage late into presidency and shortly before re-election..got it. The thing is though, I'm running across gay and lesbian's vocalizing anger towards him for "taking too long" or "mentioning it because of re-election". Personally, I DON'T CARE! The fact that he and the Vice President went on national television to express positive views on our rights for marriage and complete equality is heart warming. I don't care if it's because he wants to be re-elected, I planned on voting for him regardless..the fact that he (technically they), said it means a lot to me. I personally don't see myself wanting to get married but if I choose to do so I should have every right as an American and a tax payer. I love how we are supposed to keep religion and politics separate, yet it's always merging!

    Well my fellow LGBT community, I'm thankful for what was recently said and I encourage more speeches on it, whether or not he does much about it is fine with me. It's better then Romney and many others outright saying "NO!". It's a positive step for us and our RIGHTS as human beings, if you can't see the good in what was said then you don't deserve the right to understand. Positive energy will bring positive outcome and I'm going to push for it! Let's not just talk about America being the land of the free, let's make it a reality in every sense and remove hatred and bigotry. President Barack Obama 2012!! Ciao!!


    I hate how paying taxes has been conflated with citizenship and due access to fundamental rights/justice...
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    May 10, 2012 10:44 PM GMT
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    CalebKM saidOk, I understand that he mentions he agrees with same sex marriage late into

    Dont waste your time or energy on these people. Focus on the big picture and help get Obama re-elected. Get out there, get involved, donate your time and money, and vote!



    You're right, anyone that doesn't care is probably a scared closet case that doesn't want the ones brave enough to live life openly to have rights because they can't grow a set of balls and man up and be themselves. As for the guy with the s/n intensity, it's a shame is right but if the government expects me to pay taxes and work like everyone else I deserve everything and every right they have. It's not a one way alley, this is a two way street..soon. ;)
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    CalebKM saidOk, I understand that he mentions he agrees with same sex marriage late into presidency and shortly before re-election..got it. The thing is though, I'm running across gay and lesbian's vocalizing anger towards him for "taking too long" or "mentioning it because of re-election". Personally, I DON'T CARE! The fact that he and the Vice President went on national television to express positive views on our rights for marriage and complete equality is heart warming. I don't care if it's because he wants to be re-elected, I planned on voting for him regardless..the fact that he (technically they), said it means a lot to me. I personally don't see myself wanting to get married but if I choose to do so I should have every right as an American and a tax payer. I love how we are supposed to keep religion and politics separate, yet it's always merging!

    Well my fellow LGBT community, I'm thankful for what was recently said and I encourage more speeches on it, whether or not he does much about it is fine with me. It's better then Romney and many others outright saying "NO!". It's a positive step for us and our RIGHTS as human beings, if you can't see the good in what was said then you don't deserve the right to understand. Positive energy will bring positive outcome and I'm going to push for it! Let's not just talk about America being the land of the free, let's make it a reality in every sense and remove hatred and bigotry. President Barack Obama 2012!! Ciao!!


    I hate how paying taxes has been conflated with citizenship and due access to fundamental rights/justice...


    But in this issue of marriage equality, tax rates and the collection of those taxes are directly affected by marital status, so it is a legitimate concern here.
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    CalebKM saidVoting for Romney show's ones intellect, you'll regret it believe me. Studies show Republicans are ignorant and incapable of broad thinking, they're everything we don't want or need in this world. Let me show you idiots what you want running our country, you foolish ignorant backwards bigot. Voting for your worst enemy.


    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/mitt-romney-apologizes-dumb-things-did-prep-school-152935856.html


    Thanks for sharing your broad intellect with us.
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    May 10, 2012 10:59 PM GMT
    I really hope this hasn't turned the general election into a referendum on gay marriage, but I'm almost sure it has. I understand why Obama didn't want this to be an issue before the election, I just wish the hyper activist gay politicos that lack any patience or prudence did. The man has a plan....he DID get DADT repealed didn't he?

    You people from other states need to remember what the mormons did with prop 8 here in California. and CA is one of the most liberal states in the country.

    now we have a mormon running for president........
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    thadjock saidI really hope this hasn't turned the general election into a referendum on gay marriage, but I'm almost sure it has. I understand why Obama didn't want this to be an issue before the election, I just wish the hyper activist gay politicos that lack any patience or prudence did. The man has a plan....he DID get DADT repealed didn't he?

    You people from other states need to remember what the mormons did with prop 8 here in California. and CA is one of the most liberal states in the country.

    now we have a mormon running for president........


    Was that not what the voters of cal did with prop8. It was put in the hands of voters in that liberal state, and they backed it; right or wrong; not all voters of Cal are Mormons, only a few.

    But then as a Tru Blu Auzzie, I just love referendums, it puts the say in the hands of the majority, and not a few.
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    May 10, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
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    thadjock saidI really hope this hasn't turned the general election into a referendum on gay marriage, but I'm almost sure it has. I understand why Obama didn't want this to be an issue before the election, I just wish the hyper activist gay politicos that lack any patience or prudence did. The man has a plan....he DID get DADT repealed didn't he?

    You people from other states need to remember what the mormons did with prop 8 here in California. and CA is one of the most liberal states in the country.

    now we have a mormon running for president........


    Was that not what the voters of cal did with prop8. It was put in the hands of voters in that liberal state, and they backed it; right or wrong; not all voters of Cal are Mormons, only a few.

    But then as a Tru Blu Auzzie, I just love referendums, it puts the say in the hands of the majority, and not a few.


    Referendums on civil rights are crap...

    Civil rights issues should not be based off voting of a majority of the public...

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    southbeach1500 saidWhat he has done is punted to the states and is saying that the states should decide.
    That's a helluva lot better than YOUR candidate has done, which was sign a document stating that he'd be in support of having a constitutional amendment to FEDERALLY BAN GAY MARRIAGE COMPLETELY.

    Take your nigger-hate elsewhere.


    Clearly what I'm writing is resonating - and you and many of the other liberal drones on here don't like the possibility that what Obama did today was an empty gesture and actually in line with what the opposition party has been advocating all along, which is that the choice of whether or not to discriminate against gays should be left up to the states.

    There, I responded to your post without resorting to calling you a racist, Nazi or Neanderthal. It's actually quite easy to do if you have a valid point of view.





    The lies you've been posting haven't been "resonating" with anyone.
    They've only been reminding everyone on RJ what a total kneejerk defender of the Repub party you are - and how willing you are to post any lie you can think of to try to bullshit guys into voting Repub.

    FYI - NO ONE is buying your bullshit.