Gay Marriage in North Carolina

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    May 10, 2012 2:33 AM GMT
    Seriously, did anyone honestly believe that gay marriage would be allowed in a state full of Hillbillies?
    I've only been there once, and I saw god-fearing Americans filling the streets, not open minded liberals.
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    May 10, 2012 2:38 AM GMT
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    May 10, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
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    May 10, 2012 3:56 AM GMT
    Claystation saidHey now icon_evil.gif
    You're the exception of course. icon_wink.gificon_lol.gif
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    May 10, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    61% to 39% is not good, but it is still better than what was passed by some of it's southern neighbors several years ago- 81% in Tennessee and 76% in Georgia. Maybe there is some progress. I have a feeling that if this vote had been in November instead of now with more independents and the general population going to the polls the yes votes might have been even lower, although I think it still would have passed. It might be good to start thinking about some repeals in states where measures like these have passed years ago- California 52% in 2008, Oregon 56% in 2004, Wisconsin 56% in 2006, and Michigan 57% in 2006. These were fairly close votes years ago and the movement since then has been in our favor. The problem is there are now more than 30 of these to repeal in the country and that is a lot of work to do one by one, so maybe it is best to get a ruling from the Supreme Court to see if they could all be struck down at once.
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    May 10, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
    MK_Ultra saidSeriously, did anyone honestly believe that gay marriage would be allowed in a state full of Hillbillies?
    I've only been there once, and I saw god-fearing Americans filling the streets, not open minded liberals.


    It was about more than that though. Gay marriage was already not legal, they went so far as to ban even the possibility for civil unions or any domestic partnerships.

    It was radical.
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    May 10, 2012 6:07 PM GMT
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    MK_Ultra saidSeriously, did anyone honestly believe that gay marriage would be allowed in a state full of Hillbillies?
    I've only been there once, and I saw god-fearing Americans filling the streets, not open minded liberals.


    It was about more than that though. Gay marriage was already not legal, they went so far as to ban even the possibility for civil unions or any domestic partnerships.

    It was radical.


    Yeah, it was, but the conservatives focused on teh gay, and much of the state has no idea what they did - or how many straight couples they just screwed over.
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    May 10, 2012 6:30 PM GMT


    These voters weren't the general population.

    Tuesday's vote was a REPUBLICAN PRIMARY so I suspect a higher number of Republicans came to the polls.

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    May 11, 2012 7:05 PM GMT
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    May 11, 2012 7:10 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidBacklash over North Carolina’s marriage vote

    By the indications of posters to the state's Visit North Carolina Facebook page, the state's tourism business might take a hit this summer.
    https://www.facebook.com/visitNC

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/backlash-over-north-carolina-marriage-vote-191605975.html

    Fuck, are you serious? Selfish people looking for a vacation spot couldn't care less about whether a State voted to penalize their gay citizens. Even gays don't really give a fuck, as they're telling us here right in this thread. That's why we haven't got a chance when these State initiatives come up for a vote. If we don't care ourselves, why should anyone else?
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    May 17, 2012 6:59 AM GMT
    To the gay kids of North Carolina: It Gets Better


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    May 17, 2012 3:16 PM GMT
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    AMoonHawk saidBacklash over North Carolina’s marriage vote

    By the indications of posters to the state's Visit North Carolina Facebook page, the state's tourism business might take a hit this summer.
    https://www.facebook.com/visitNC

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/backlash-over-north-carolina-marriage-vote-191605975.html

    I very much agree with your point of view
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    May 17, 2012 3:37 PM GMT
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    AMoonHawk saidBacklash over North Carolina’s marriage vote

    By the indications of posters to the state's Visit North Carolina Facebook page, the state's tourism business might take a hit this summer.
    https://www.facebook.com/visitNC

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/backlash-over-north-carolina-marriage-vote-191605975.html

    I very much agree with your point of view

    And I disagree. Gays will continue to vacation in North Carolina, if they think they might like the area and the deal they get.

    When did gays EVER put politics and social issues ahead of their own personal interests? If I read these threads here clearly, not very often.

    This is why we have no political clout. And why we'll still spend our money in NC, and vote for Republicans. Because we are fucking stupid wimps who want to be abused, and always will be. icon_razz.gif
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    May 17, 2012 8:47 PM GMT
    The Real Lesson of North Carolina’s Amendment 1

    "What’s most important for the gay marriage advocates to remember is that Amendment 1 was never just about same sex marriage—that was already illegal in North Carolina. The bill was written and heavily promoted by Alliance Defense Fund, a right-wing legal advocacy group, and bans all legal protections for unmarried people. It ends people’s ability to get health insurance under domestic partnership plans. The bill even threatens the rights of unmarried parents to visit their children."..............


    "While progressives need to take seriously the electoral strategies to get people to the polls when fighting these kinds of bills, the Right has not, in its long term strategy, imagined the kinds of long-term potential for progressive infrastructure that gets built when organizations come together to fight these bills. And local organizers have every reason to consider this fight a win for long-term solutions on beating back right-wing attacks.

    “Our win is humongous,” said Kai Lumumba Barrow, SONG organizer in a video the group put out the day after the amendment passed. “Because our dialogue is not just about gay marriage. It’s moving toward a dialogue about what does it mean for poor people, people of color, queer people coming together to fight for each other’s liberation. This amendment made that possible.”"


    http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/05/north_carolina_amendment_1.html
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    May 29, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    FACT: The last time North Carolina amended their constitution on marriage it was to ban interracial marriage.

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    May 29, 2012 3:40 PM GMT
    MK_Ultra saidSeriously, did anyone honestly believe that gay marriage would be allowed in a state full of Hillbillies?
    I've only been there once, and I saw god-fearingdamned bigots Americans filling the streets, not open minded liberals.
    Fixed.
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    Jun 03, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
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    Jun 03, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    I don't think it's fair to call the entire state of North Carolina "hillybillies". I meet very nice liberal people from there all the time. Besides, Ashville is supposedly a very liberal city. Bash the pastors that are saying this shit and bash the lawmakers, but be careful of generalizing about the state as a whole.