Human Rights Campaign

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    Jan 08, 2007 5:53 AM GMT
    I'd like to encourage others here at Realjock to join me in supporting the Human Rights Campaign. HRC has been working for over 25 years for equality and to create real change for gay, lesbian, transgender, and bisexual Americans.

    You can also get a daily 3 minute dose of important GLBT news direct from HRC through "Equally Speaking" at the HRC website.

    HRC is working on behalf of all of us... so your support is important, especially in the current political climate. I hope you'll consider it.

  • treader

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    Jan 08, 2007 5:30 PM GMT

    I have to disagree. I do think that HRC does some good but I think that there are better groups to support like Lambda Legal and GL Task Force.

    I became a member of HRC in the early ninities when they wrote letters to your representatives on your behalf which was great. Then they switched over to lobbying so I never knew exactly what they were doing. Two years later I was helping organizing the GLBT midwest college conference. HRC promised all sort of things then changed their minds. Call after call, they didn't seem to know what they were doing. They were openly booed at the conference (which had over a 1000 students). I cancelled my membership after that experience.

    Also their support of bisexual and transgender issues is relatively recent.

    Ever since then, they have repeatly called me asking for money. I've told them politely over and over again that I'm not interested, I'm not a member, and to please take me off their phone list. They haven't or cannot - I'm not sure. They've been calling me now for eight or more years! If they cannot even edit a phone list after eight years then I'm not sure if they're qualified to handle more complex tasks.

    I do have to say that I was a little optimistic when Cheryl Jacques become their Director, but then, surprise surprise, she was forced out pretty quickly.

    Anyway, this is all my opinion. I just think that there are better organizations to support besides HRC.

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    Jan 08, 2007 6:54 PM GMT
    Okay, well, opinions about organizations aside (my HRC experience has been nothing but positive), allow me to re-phrase and encourage other Realjock members to just flat out get involved in organizations, like Lamda Legal or GL Task Force or yes, HRC, to work towards positive change for equality issues.

    My initial post comes out of a slight frustration that with so many issues facing our community today, the only posting in RJ's Gay News & Events forum to date has been one on Disney Gay Days. I just want to encourage more ACTION. Thanks.
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    Jan 08, 2007 11:36 PM GMT
    Great posts.

    I've supported HRC in the past. I agree that they can be a bit "Big Gay Brother" in their approach, but I do like a lot of the work they do.

    I think the important thing, as Brix mentioned above, is that we support the dot-orgs who support us, whether that's Lambda Legal or HRC or GLAAD, or local organizations like your local LGBT community center. You can support with money (they love that of course), or with your time if you don't have the money to spare. Either way I think it's totally worth it, 100 percent.

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    Jan 09, 2007 12:15 AM GMT

    A group of self serving political dilatants.

    If you’re a known local or national celebrity, they take the time to make you feel included, if you’re an unknown someone who wants to make a difference in the world around you for GLBTG community forget it with this group.

    While Elizabeth Birch is gone, her culture of oozing up to celebrity and media figures is boring, counter productive and very much alive...
    Lest we forget Anne Heche, and her front and center roll at HRC, only to claim she was crazy for a couple of years and never Gay.

    Any organization that thinks buildings and rooms in them with names of big money donors is more important than helping to educate the general population about how truly normal and some might even say regular it is to be gay, is not in touch with what is happening outside of Washington DC.

    Don’t ask and don’t tell is a hallmark failure of HRC and their lobbying efforts.

    As is the defense of marriage act or acts taking root all over the nation.

    This collisal failure is from an ill conceived notion that pushing on the idea of marriage in a legal frame work is better than taking small steps like ensuring domestic partner benefits in all 50 states.

    Marriage is a religious institutions stamp on life, is the church the one collecting taxes and barring life long partners from making critical medical and familial decisions? No, it is the government, and a local or federal government that disallows any form of same sex union as a reaction to a political push for a religious acknowledgement is the fault of those institutions pressing the wrong agenda.

    GLBTG people need measured consistent progress in securing their rights as citizens and human beings in this country, any step backwards like the ban on “marriage” in so many states, is inherently HRC’s fault, they have pushed the issues too far too fast, and left us with no recourse. So much for the millions of dollars in political contributions, and their effect on your daily lives.

    Shame on anyone that thinks “Marriage” in a religious sense backed up by a state license is better than having practical access to medical insurance, the right to inherit, the right to visitation, or the right to decide life and death matters for their partner, is as vital as domestic partner benefits is when taken in the real context of daily life.

    Now my friends we have years of work to undo what has been done by the few that think the word marriage was more important than the practical daily life issues facing GLBTG couples and singles in the entire country.

    Pick your charities wisely, not based on starry eyed celebrity. HRC is lost and moving further away from the reality of life outside the beltway.
  • treader

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    Jan 10, 2007 10:23 PM GMT

    aspen007, I'm a little confused about some of your arguments. While the HRC director, Cheryl Jacques was very much pro-marriage and I strongly suspect that why she was removed because of this position. Frankly, I liked HRC taking a strong stand on the marriage issues. I was sorry to see her go.

    Did activist push too hard too fast for marriage rights? That's certainly up for debate. Living here in Massachusetts where where several of my friends got married, gut-wise I would say hell no - we deserved it a long time ago! But after the 2004 election, it was hard not to feel a little guilty. A friend of mine living in Ohio at that time lost all of his DP rights because the state voted to outlawed them.

    So should we settle for civil unions? Keep pushing for the full equality with no compromises? I guess we'll have to let each state decide for themselves. Hopefully here in Massachusetts we can hold on to marriage and keep showing the rest of the country that it can work.
  • phill

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    Feb 24, 2007 4:36 AM GMT
    Thanks for posting this topic. I think something i try to focus on even in the midst of the cross drama between large nation orginizations is helping locally. I think in our strive to push the big issues to the fore front of american minds we forget the people who dont readily fit into nice easily packaged nation campaigns. The homeless gay youth, battered men or women in same sex relationships, gay men reclaming faith, addicted brethern, the aids epidemic on the interpersonal scale.

    I think if more people looked around them and say there brothers ailing sick and living in destitude and decided to reach out and help we would be able to impact a very large scale victory for gay culture, the reclamation of our compassion. Its easy to cut a check once a month (and i belive its a very real and just cause that alot these organizations fight for. I think that you should continue supporting them however you can because we are waging a duel battle.)but sometimes its harder to deliver a basket of food to an aids patient and see the face of the epidemic so closely
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    Apr 06, 2007 12:02 AM GMT
    intersting thread.
    i agree the HRC is a problematic organization. my involvement with them has been minimal but i've been troubled by the randomness of their philosophy and the fact that they obviously mean to speak (loudly) for our entire community. i lost faith in HRC when they spoke out agianst the invasion of iraq. however you may feel about the war, it is hard to see it as a "gay issue" and why would HRC feel so comfortable speaking for ALL of us on a subject about which many disagree?

    no, hrc has a lot of work to do getting it's priorities straight and forming a cogent philosophy about gay rights and how to promote them without overstepping.

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    May 04, 2007 9:21 AM GMT
    i really want to do something proactive in the gay community, today was my first "gay bashing" i was downtown and some guy was screaming "faggot", "fuck you ass fucker", and i assumed it was to me. my back was turned so i just went into the building i was heading to. i am 20 and into rock music and tall and into style and expression so i was wearing skinny jeans (pure ramones style) and a safari jacket and this was on a busy street, the main street basically and there were loads of pedestrians, i ignored it but it left me fuming and confused. what i dont understand is why civil rights leaders for the black/minority community and feminist leaders dont put more emphasis on this issue aswell and band together. the hegemony that dictates our interactions and our decisions disgusts me and people are all to compacent when hate is the issue. I am sick of this gang mentality of "eat or be eaten". I was hoping to experience something like this just to legitimize my being gay becuase i have only come across good when coming out or being open but this reminds me of how little has been done for our community, how naive i was, and how little we want to do for our community becuase we are afraid to be "gay" unless circumstances are appropriate. Now i see why flamers are so important to the social dynamic of every city. Gay people wont die off, just becuase the "f" word is thrown about...
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    Dec 01, 2007 1:29 AM GMT
    I don't much care for HRC anymore. I wish I could get their damned bumpersticker off my car.
  • EricLA

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    Dec 01, 2007 1:36 AM GMT
    mnaoitb, some orgs you might want to support given your experience:
    * organizations like GLSEN and high school Gay-Straight Alliances. I think we've already seen a lot of change, but the more youth that are exposed to gay people the less likely they are to participate in hate speech.
    *GLAAD works to ensure fair and accurate portrayals of lgbt people in the media.
    * national and local Anti-Violence Projects that help react to and raise awareness about hate crimes and hate speech
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    Dec 01, 2007 1:42 AM GMT
    HRC pussied out on ENDA. It's all or nothing in this regard, gentlemen. If I want to put on a dress to go to work, well, by f*n god, if a woman can do it, why can't I?

    I don't know why I feel compelled to tell you I have no desire to put on a dress for work, but, you masculine bastards have made me feel defensive. The point is choice. If dick is good enough for your momma, it's good enough for me. Same goes for the damned dress, the lipstick, the tit implants and the ball removal. It's not for me, but the opportunity to choose is.