Lesson learned: Don't take care of problems. Hope that they get bad enough that someone else will do it for you.

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    May 10, 2012 11:56 PM GMT
    My upstairs neighbour's dishwater has been filling up my sink daily, complete with bits of food from his meal. I've been hoping he'd get a plumber to fix things as his drain will be slow as a result, but he hasn't.
    As you may expect, I'm quite careful in preventing food from going down the drain, so I know the clog had nothing to do with me. But I got fed up, so I spoke to the building manager('s son because his father is on vacation).

    Plumber came, made a mess of my kitchen, pulled mop strings & crap from the drain, fixed the problem. Had a nice talk with the manager's son about geeky stuff. They left, said thank you, all happy and good.

    Next day, same nice, friendly son comes back saying I have to get rid of my countertop dishwasher because "it caused the clog". The "pipes can't handle the pressure" was the reason given.

    Countertop dishwashers don't hook up to pipes, they attach to the faucet and don't affect pressure in any way. Water falls into sink. Not only that, it has its own filter inside it, and so my water is double filtered before draining! I also don't put mops in my m'fucking dishwasher.

    He says "it's in the lease that no washers, dryers or dishwashers can be in the unit". Same thing my last 2 leases said but the landlords didn't care about it, because it doesn't cause any of the problems real dishwashers cause.

    They don't care about sense. The guy upstairs caused a clog, is stil putting food down the drain, and because I had the initiative to get something done about it, I'm blamed and can't use my own property. It helped me and had no downside but their knees have jerked and that's that.

    So I closed the door and was walking back to my computer chair and my mind went immediately to my kindred Professor Farnsworth


    That's really all it takes. I'm only barely here still.

    FYI energy usage = $0.25 per month
    water usage = less than a small sinkfull every 4 days.
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    May 11, 2012 12:03 AM GMT


    that sucks
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    May 11, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
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    They can give written permission that it's okay, but they won't.
  • Timbales

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    May 11, 2012 12:39 AM GMT
    disconnect it, unplug it and tell them you won't use it anymore

    then use it whenever you want to, just make sure it's empty and disconnected when you aren't there
  • Fable

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    May 11, 2012 12:47 AM GMT
    Timbales saiddisconnect it, unplug it and tell them you won't use it anymore

    then use it whenever you want to, just make sure it's empty and disconnected when you aren't there


    like.... obvious answer is obvious!!

    +1
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    May 11, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
    Timbales saiddisconnect it, unplug it and tell them you won't use it anymore

    then use it whenever you want to, just make sure it's empty and disconnected when you aren't there


    The problem is, the thing weighs a TON. It hurts my back to lift it on my own. The other problem is, they do apartment inspections and he said if they find it here then, they'll "have to give you trouble".

    Whatever that means.

    It might be possible for me to move it say to my bedroom, manually pour in 3L of water for each cycle, and make sure that it dumps the water into a bucket or something. I'm not sure if it would work properly that way, but it's one way to get around their ass-stickery.
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    May 11, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said
    Timbales saiddisconnect it, unplug it and tell them you won't use it anymore

    then use it whenever you want to, just make sure it's empty and disconnected when you aren't there


    The problem is, the thing weighs a TON. It hurts my back to lift it on my own. The other problem is, they do apartment inspections and he said if they find it here then, they'll "have to give you trouble".

    Whatever that means.


    "Yeah, I put it on Craigslist but I don't have any takers yet. I'm not going to just throw it away."

    Do you live near an IKEA? They have a pretty inexpensive kitchen cart on wheels that you might be able to put it on. Then you can just move it out of the way when it's not in use, maybe cover it with something.
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    May 11, 2012 12:57 AM GMT
    Timbales said"Yeah, I put it on Craigslist but I don't have any takers yet. I'm not going to just throw it away."

    Do you live near an IKEA? They have a pretty inexpensive kitchen cart on wheels that you might be able to put it on. Then you can just move it out of the way when it's not in use, maybe cover it with something.


    They said I could put it in storage. I don't know if they'd let me keep it in another room. I do have a cart that I can wheel it around on, but it would be kind of obvious.

    Any inspection they make, or any repair that needs to be done would find it there and I'd get this "trouble".
  • Timbales

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    May 11, 2012 1:16 AM GMT
    give it a shot, and see what happens
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    May 11, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said
    Timbales said"Yeah, I put it on Craigslist but I don't have any takers yet. I'm not going to just throw it away."

    Do you live near an IKEA? They have a pretty inexpensive kitchen cart on wheels that you might be able to put it on. Then you can just move it out of the way when it's not in use, maybe cover it with something.


    They said I could put it in storage. I don't know if they'd let me keep it in another room. I do have a cart that I can wheel it around on, but it would be kind of obvious.

    Any inspection they make, or any repair that needs to be done would find it there and I'd get this "trouble".


    Surely you can just hide it a little when they do an inspection? And if its empty and unplugged when they get there whats the problem with storing it in your apartment?
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    May 11, 2012 9:49 AM GMT
    It should be in your lease that they have to give you notice for inspections. Not sure where you live, and how that may affect the laws surrounding all of this... but here, even if you aren't allowed to use it, they can't tell you that you have to remove it from the house. Not only that, but if there's a closed door and you tell them someone is "sleeping in that room"... they're not allowed to go inside. You pay monies, and since it's considered your home, you have rights.

    Unfortunately.. the plumber was probably just a moron. I know a lot of plumbers and they're all pretty damn stupid. He saw that as the easiest excuse and bullshitted so they would feel like his fee was justified, and maybe even call him again. The most terrible part about him being such a jerk is that he probably doesn't even realize he's screwing you over.
  • mikey_101

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    May 11, 2012 10:39 AM GMT
    Eh.... handwash your dishes?
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    May 11, 2012 11:20 AM GMT
    i h8 landlords like this, theres no reason for them to be like that, i say hit em n tha wallet, tell em the drain is running slow every day and demand it be fixed every day, before you know it at $100 every time they have to call the plumber to fix imaginary problems theyll get the hint. my apt complex is horrible, and supposedly they are one of the best around, i cant wait to move outta here, only 10 more days!!! my new place is gonna b 2x as big for half tha rent and i get a washer and dryer. ive never lived in an apartment that didnt have a dishwasher. would be nice if one of the more lawyerly amongst us drew up a contract for a renters union, if the apartment complexes refuse to agree to our terms we dont pay, and form a picket line to prevent new tenants, blows my mind the things these people get away with, and it seems like everyone is just ok with it. "it is what it is" i say "fuck that!!!" if there were a renters union id join in a heartbeat. the best bet may be to rent a room in a house, lots of ppl are barely making their mortgages these days and would be thrilled to have someone give em a couple extra hundred a month so they can make their mortgages, as for the dishwasher id jus keep it and deny usage, wish em the best of luck provin ur usin it, i'd also change my locks, maybe illegal or whatever but id be damned if i have someone bust up in my home
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    May 11, 2012 12:11 PM GMT
    mikey_101 saidEh.... handwash your dishes?


    QFT!
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    May 11, 2012 12:17 PM GMT
    this is a nice reminder how how much i really don't miss renting. i had great landlords mind you when i did rent, and i lived in a small building with only 6 units and everyone got to know each other and were helpful.

    technically we weren't allowed to have window box air conditioners (and it was an old building with no central air conditioning) because apparently the electrical load was too much to handle. but all of us did have them, which were just not viewable from the front windows facing the street. my advice is like what Timbales suggested. feign total agreement, get a cart, cover your tracks, disguise it with a table cloth, but carry on as usual.

    "they'll have to give you trouble" - what does that mean? maybe it means that he'll break your knee caps?! or maybe it means he'll fine you? or more likely, it means he'll just remind you that its against their policy and then let you keep on doing what you're doing - which is what seems to be happening.
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    May 11, 2012 1:16 PM GMT
    I lol'd
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    May 11, 2012 2:22 PM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said
    Timbales saiddisconnect it, unplug it and tell them you won't use it anymore

    then use it whenever you want to, just make sure it's empty and disconnected when you aren't there


    The problem is, the thing weighs a TON. It hurts my back to lift it on my own. The other problem is, they do apartment inspections and he said if they find it here then, they'll "have to give you trouble".

    Whatever that means.

    It might be possible for me to move it say to my bedroom, manually pour in 3L of water for each cycle, and make sure that it dumps the water into a bucket or something. I'm not sure if it would work properly that way, but it's one way to get around their ass-stickery.
    Ask the nerdy guy to come back and help ya lift the dishwasher...in the process...GRAB DAT ASS...you'd be able to use the machine... trust
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    May 11, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
    Disconnect it. When the trouble occurs again, you can point out it wasnt due to your dishwasher and report them to the health dept. Or any other regulatory agencies you have for apt. buildings.

    Start documenting your conversations.

    And while you're in the kitchen, make me a sammich, bitch.
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    May 17, 2012 8:11 AM GMT
    UPDATE AT BOTTOM!! But first, quotes.

    ozondamove saidSurely you can just hide it a little when they do an inspection? And if its empty and unplugged when they get there whats the problem with storing it in your apartment?

    The inspections last a whole month, they could come at any time... it's quite unnerving. What if I'm whacking off? They'll knock, which will give me enough time to pause the porn, stuff it in my pants, but they'll come in before I get the butt plug out. And they'll totally know what I've been doing. That reminds me of a horrible time when I had to let a lady in with her dog...

    KentuckyTuss saidIt should be in your lease that they have to give you notice for inspections. Not only that, but if there's a closed door and you tell them someone is "sleeping in that room"... they're not allowed to go inside.

    Unfortunately.. the plumber was probably just a moron. I know a lot of plumbers and they're all pretty damn stupid. He saw that as the easiest excuse and bullshitted so they would feel like his fee was justified, and maybe even call him again. The most terrible part about him being such a jerk is that he probably doesn't even realize he's screwing you over.

    I checked my lease, it says they can enter for "maintenance inspections". They've told me a few times it's really to check balconies for barbeques (it's a big fine for them), so it's not really legal of them, but they could spin it how they want.
    I'd love that sleep rule as I might be asleep when they come. That creeps me the fuck out, I might wake up to strangers in my bedroom.
    The plumber didn't say it in front of me, he waited until he was going down in the elevator to say it. He did seem pretty dumb though, he had black putrid hands, covered with dried sludge and he kept running his putrid fingers through his hair. Cringe.

    Johnnyhotsauce saidi h8 landlords like this, theres no reason for them to be like that,
    i cant wait to move outta here, only 10 more days!!! my new place is gonna b 2x as big for half tha rent and i get a washer and dryer. ive never lived in an apartment that didnt have a dishwasher. would be nice if one of the more lawyerly amongst us drew up a contract for a renters union, if the apartment complexes refuse to agree to our terms we dont pay,

    I hate landlords like that too. People say "the tenants have all the power", but it's not true. The BAD tenants have all the power, the good tenants don't have a legal leg to stand on. I know some horrible tenants fuck landlords over, and so we are all treated as guilty. Here we have a % that rent can increase each year, but landlords get around it by increasing a huge amount when someone moves out. So if it's 2%, a $700 apartment should cost $714 for the next year, but if the tenant moves out, they will raise rent to $775 for whoever moves in next. It's not right, but they ALL do it so no one can stop them. The union would be great if it screened its members.
    Beware of your new place, if they have appliances in the units, you have to pay for utilities!

    Claystation saidI lol'd

    u sob!
    mybud saidAsk the nerdy guy to come back and help ya lift the dishwasher...in the process...GRAB DAT ASS...you'd be able to use the machine... trust

    Not into ass, nor that one in particular. Wanna come grab it for me? Bring dirty dishes, I'll wash them for you in return.

    Caslon19000 said...And while you're in the kitchen, make me a sammich, bitch.

    It'll just take me 25 minutes. Does this mean we're not getting divorced?

    UPDATE: Father (manager) came back yesterday, I talked to him today, did the math, told him some of the reasons why it was not a problem. He said no at first, and then no again, and then that it was the building owners (a company) who needed convincing. He said if I prepped a letter with all my points and math to give them, he'd present it to them best he could. I asked what their main opposition would be and he realized it's more work to do this than to just pretend it doesn't exist. So I am in the clear and can continue using my wondermachine! It won't be a problem for the inspection, but if anyone complains about plumbing around me, I might have to stop. Just gimme 6 months.

    So after all the stress and bother, I am back to where I started! Yay! C'est la vie.
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    May 17, 2012 8:25 AM GMT
    Good to hear.
    I just read some stuff that surprised me.
    Your rent is a per month figure?
    If so OMG thats so much cheaper than anywhere in Oz, my last rent was $450 per week! and although a bit high its pretty average
    In Oz we always pay for utilities when we rent and rent inspections are depending which state you live in minimum 3 months apart, with 1 months notice and a specific day they will do the inspection.
    Interesting the differences , that is all
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    May 17, 2012 9:01 AM GMT
    That's not my rent, just an example. Where I used to live I paid $650 (a good rate but with downsides). After one year it went up to 654. When I moved out, $750.

    You really can't compare rents unless you factor in wage and other expenses, as well as size & quality. The thought of how much money the company that owns this old building makes per month makes me want to puke. They could give it to us for half I'm sure.
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    May 17, 2012 11:03 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said
    Caslon19000 said...And while you're in the kitchen, make me a sammich, bitch.

    It'll just take me 25 minutes. Does this mean we're not getting divorced?.

    Let me see how good the sammich is first, bitch.
  • Timbales

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    May 18, 2012 1:04 AM GMT
    I'm glad you can use your dishwasher and I enjoyed reading about how you masturbate.
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    May 18, 2012 1:00 PM GMT
    Caslon19000 said
    SkinnyBitch said
    It'll just take me 25 minutes. Does this mean we're not getting divorced?.

    Let me see how good the sammich is first, bitch.

    The sandwich will be mediocre or slightly below mediocre.

    Timbales saidI'm glad you can use your dishwasher and I enjoyed reading about how you masturbate.

    Thanks and thanks.