Washington Post's Story on Romney as 'Anti-Gay Bully' Collapses

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    May 12, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
    First the Washington Post Ombudsman acknowledges that the story was timed to coincide with Obama's change in position in gay marriage:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/omblog/post/mitt-romney-bullying-story-holds-up-to-scrutiny/2012/05/11/gIQALLVnIU_blog.html

    The other criticisms are that this story was published knowing that President Obama was going to announce his shift in favor of gay marriage. The allegation is that somehow The Post is working with the White House to time the story.

    Do I think The Post took advantage of the timing? Yes. Vice President Biden had telegraphed the president’s position on gay marriage just days earlier. This story on Romney was in preparation for three weeks. It is part of a series of biographical stories on Romney being written by Horowitz and others and edited by The Post’s Pulitzer Prize-winning writer and associate editor, David Maraniss, who is known for his best- selling biographies of major U.S. political figures.


    While the Ombudsman claims that the story holds up under scrutiny here are a few problems:

    1. The story exaggerated and outright lied about what some witnesses said. On Stu White - the original paragraph: "“I always enjoyed his pranks,” said Stu White, a popular friend of Romney’s who went on to a career as a public school teacher and has long been bothered by the Lauber incident."

    The stealth correction now to the article: "“I always enjoyed his pranks,” said Stu White, a popular friend of Romney’s who went on to a career as a public school teacher and said he has been “disturbed” by the Lauber incident since hearing about it several weeks ago, before being contacted by The Washington Post. “But I was not the brunt of any of his pranks.”

    This correction was only made after ABC News interviewed Stu White where he contradicted the Washington Post report: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/romney-friend-stu-white-says-campaign-wants-him-to-counter-prank-accusations/ Further, the ABC News report made it clear that Stu White was not even present at the attack.

    2. The sister of John Lauber's sister (Lauber was the victim in the attack) disputes the event and says as follows: Betsy Lauber, one of John Lauber’s three sisters, spoke with ABC News Tuesday night regarding the accuracy of the story. “The family of John Lauber is releasing a statement saying the portrayal of John is factually incorrect and we are aggrieved that he would be used to further a political agenda. There will be no more comments from the family,” she said.

    “Even if it did happen, John probably wouldn’t have said anything,” Christine Lauber said. “If he were still alive today, he would be furious [about the story],” she said with tears in her eyes. The Washington Post contacted and quoted both Christine and Betsy Lauber in their original story and reported that they were not aware of the incident with Romney.
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/sister-of-alleged-romney-target-has-no-knowledge-of-any-bullying-incident/

    3. Finally, the Post piece attempts to suggest that this incident stayed with Lauber not describing the success he became. From Breitbart.com: "According to his obituary in the South Bend Tribune, led an incredibly full life. He graduated from Vanderbilt, became a member of the British Horse Society, had his seaman papers, was a licensed mortician in three states and head chef at the Russian River Resort in California, and even served as a civilian contractor to the troops in Iraq. "
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/10/Washington-Post-Hit-Piece-Implodes

    Of course the Post never scrutinized Biden in the same way -
    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/05/11/washington-post-young-joe-biden/

    Then again, it might not matter as the Washington Post itself continues in its path of self destruction - though as CJR is probably loathe to admit much of it is self inflicted in a product that fewer and fewer bother to trust - and no wonder why:
    http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/the_washington_post_cos_self-d.php
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    May 13, 2012 2:13 AM GMT
    The damage is done.. and its unstoppable now.. tough titties.
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    May 13, 2012 2:18 AM GMT
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    riddler78 saidThen again, it might not matter as the Washington Post itself continues in its path of self destruction


    Yeah... if it lasts another 20 years I'll be shocked (same goes for the NY Times).

    The story has already pretty much petered out among the mainstream people.
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    May 13, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
    Romney has now been defined in mainstream America as a flip flopping vicious bully. Irrevocable damage has been done.
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    May 13, 2012 2:26 AM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    riddler78 saidThen again, it might not matter as the Washington Post itself continues in its path of self destruction


    Yeah... if it lasts another 20 years I'll be shocked (same goes for the NY Times).

    The story has already pretty much petered out among the mainstream people.
    Really? then how come the blogs and forums are still rife with people that are talking about it and Romney as of an hour ago when I last checked a few?

    Yep, the damage has been done.. and nothing will 'undo' it now.
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    May 13, 2012 2:33 AM GMT
    TropicalMark_GySgtUSMC said
    socalfitness said
    southbeach1500 said
    riddler78 saidThen again, it might not matter as the Washington Post itself continues in its path of self destruction


    Yeah... if it lasts another 20 years I'll be shocked (same goes for the NY Times).

    The story has already pretty much petered out among the mainstream people.
    Really? then how come the blogs and forums are still rife with people that are talking about it and Romney as of an hour ago when I last checked a few?

    Yep, the damage has been done.. and nothing will 'undo' it now.


    The discussion revolves around why Romney cant remember this attack despite his classmates vivid memory of the brutality.

    Either this was one of so many vicious attacks he cant remember them all, he has early Alzheimers, or hes a damn liar.. Prolly a frothy mix of all three.
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    May 13, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    riddler78 saidThen again, it might not matter as the Washington Post itself continues in its path of self destruction


    Yeah... if it lasts another 20 years I'll be shocked (same goes for the NY Times).

    The story has already pretty much petered out among the mainstream people.


    Oddly, the latest polling has Romney significantly up. It will be interesting to see if there's any lasting impact or whether or not the public is getting used to these attacks.
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    May 13, 2012 3:15 AM GMT
    http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/1206_mitt_romney/

    posting first before reading.
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    May 13, 2012 3:25 AM GMT
    catfish5 said
    TropicalMark_GySgtUSMC said
    socalfitness said
    southbeach1500 said
    riddler78 saidThen again, it might not matter as the Washington Post itself continues in its path of self destruction


    Yeah... if it lasts another 20 years I'll be shocked (same goes for the NY Times).

    The story has already pretty much petered out among the mainstream people.
    Really? then how come the blogs and forums are still rife with people that are talking about it and Romney as of an hour ago when I last checked a few?

    Yep, the damage has been done.. and nothing will 'undo' it now.


    The discussion revolves around why Romney cant remember this attack despite his classmates vivid memory of the brutality.

    Either this was one of so many vicious attacks he cant remember them all, he has early Alzheimers, or hes a damn liar.. Prolly a frothy mix of all three.


    Perhaps this is this years' "Dukakis in a tank" story... but it had an effect anyway.....
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    May 13, 2012 3:29 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    socalfitness said
    southbeach1500 said
    riddler78 saidThen again, it might not matter as the Washington Post itself continues in its path of self destruction


    Yeah... if it lasts another 20 years I'll be shocked (same goes for the NY Times).

    The story has already pretty much petered out among the mainstream people.


    Oddly, the latest polling has Romney significantly up. It will be interesting to see if there's any lasting impact or whether or not the public is getting used to these attacks.

    It's only being discussed among the left. Most people 1) realize it was a hit piece that backfired on Wash Post, 2) Don't care about high school.

    The same ones who say it's a big deal also don't care about Obama's university papers when he was pals with Marxist professors (per his own account in a book) because it was so far in the past.

    Noticing the same polls. Good trend.
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    May 13, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
    From the ABC article:

    "Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were “doing our own thing” at the time.

    When ABC News showed her the story, Christine Lauber’s eyes welled up with tears and she became agitated.

    She described her brother as a “very unusual person.”

    So, she knows nothing of the incident and was embarrassed by her gay brother. I'm sure if I felt the way she does, I wouldn't want anyone knowing my brother was a fag either.

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    May 13, 2012 3:56 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidFrom the ABC article:

    "Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were “doing our own thing” at the time.

    When ABC News showed her the story, Christine Lauber’s eyes welled up with tears and she became agitated.

    She described her brother as a “very unusual person.”

    So, she knows nothing of the incident and was embarrassed by her gay brother. I'm sure if I felt the way she does, I wouldn't want anyone knowing my brother was a fag either.



    Wow you're an asshole - where do you see that she was embarrassed by her gay brother? That's quite an extrapolation - for a guy who seems to like lording over their supposed compassion because you supposedly make less money than you could in the private for profit world, you have neither class nor decency.

    It must really bother you that she also points out that he would have been angry about the "inaccuracies" in the reporting and how this undermines the narrative you push that the media isn't biased.
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    May 13, 2012 4:19 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidFrom the ABC article:

    "Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were “doing our own thing” at the time.

    When ABC News showed her the story, Christine Lauber’s eyes welled up with tears and she became agitated.

    She described her brother as a “very unusual person.”

    So, she knows nothing of the incident and was embarrassed by her gay brother. I'm sure if I felt the way she does, I wouldn't want anyone knowing my brother was a fag either.



    Wow you're an asshole -
    He socal.. dont you rail about those who resort to 'name calling'?

    Here's one of your own! Cat got your tongue?
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    May 13, 2012 4:38 AM GMT
    and another one

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Romney-prankster-gay-Lauber/2012/05/11/id/438794

    "Romney said he didn’t remember the Lauber incident from almost 50 years ago, but he didn’t dispute that it happened. He stressed that he didn’t know either student was gay.

    Indeed, having grown up in the same era in Belmont, Mass., where Romney later lived, I know that we had only the vaguest idea of what being gay meant. Other Romney classmates have said that Romney was not a bully nor homophobic when a student at the private Cranbrook School. Moreover, as governor and as a presidential candidate, Romney has hired individuals who are openly gay."


    Pretty much true. I didn't start to understand what gay was until Stonewall. I visited the first C-bus homo bar in 1970 (the kismet) and ran into our senior English teacher very much 'with' our DE coordinator. I was so traumatized by that I didn’t go back for a while. Ended up that those two were the first I think that I talked to about my queeriosity.

    I hung a lot in Detroit and wasn’t aware of any gay scene there at all ... maybe something in Ferndale, but I can’t remember much of it. I didn't know Mitt, but knew a bunch from Cranbrook and they were pretty wild, but everyone was semi out of control in those days. I went to Detroit to street race, but for homo urges, it was Toronto or Chicago
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    May 13, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidFrom the ABC article:

    "Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were “doing our own thing” at the time.

    When ABC News showed her the story, Christine Lauber’s eyes welled up with tears and she became agitated.

    She described her brother as a “very unusual person.”

    So, she knows nothing of the incident and was embarrassed by her gay brother. I'm sure if I felt the way she does, I wouldn't want anyone knowing my brother was a fag either.



    Wow you're an asshole - where do you see that she was embarrassed by her gay brother? That's quite an extrapolation - for a guy who seems to like lording over their supposed compassion because you supposedly make less money than you could in the private for profit world, you have neither class nor decency.

    It must really bother you that she also points out that he would have been angry about the "inaccuracies" in the reporting and how this undermines the narrative you push that the media isn't biased.


    I'm not the one trotting out a sister obviously embarrassed by her gay brother to minimize the fact that my candidate is a sociopath.

    I do have compassion, for those that need and deserve it. Not those who destroy people's livelihoods to enrich themselves or their sycophants.

    And if my brother was assaulted like this poor guy was, I wouldn't be embarrassed about it. I'd be livid at the douche bag who did it.

    It's really easy to pick on someone weaker, someone poor, someone "unusual." The real balls is in taking on the more powerful, not making excuses for their excesses.

    But look who I'm talking to. You could teach "Sociopathy 101", or perhaps even an advanced course in lacking empathy.
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    May 13, 2012 5:00 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidRomney has now been defined in mainstream America as a flip flopping vicious bully. Irrevocable damage has been done.



    Oh please. You must take the American public for as big of an idiot as you are. This story is petering out faster than it appeared -- and it may even backfire.
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    May 13, 2012 5:00 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidFrom the ABC article:

    "Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were “doing our own thing” at the time.

    When ABC News showed her the story, Christine Lauber’s eyes welled up with tears and she became agitated.

    She described her brother as a “very unusual person.”

    So, she knows nothing of the incident and was embarrassed by her gay brother. I'm sure if I felt the way she does, I wouldn't want anyone knowing my brother was a fag either.



    Wow you're an asshole - where do you see that she was embarrassed by her gay brother? That's quite an extrapolation - for a guy who seems to like lording over their supposed compassion because you supposedly make less money than you could in the private for profit world, you have neither class nor decency.

    It must really bother you that she also points out that he would have been angry about the "inaccuracies" in the reporting and how this undermines the narrative you push that the media isn't biased.


    I'm not the one trotting out a sister obviously embarrassed by her gay brother to minimize the fact that my candidate is a sociopath.

    I do have compassion, for those that need and deserve it. Not those who destroy people's livelihoods to enrich themselves or their sycophants.

    And if my brother was assaulted like this poor guy was, I wouldn't be embarrassed about it. I'd be livid at the douche bag who did it.

    It's really easy to pick on someone weaker, someone poor, someone "unusual." The real balls is in taking on the more powerful, not making excuses for their excesses.

    But look who I'm talking to. You could teach "Sociopathy 101", or perhaps even an advanced course in lacking empathy.
    Certain "asian canadians" dont have the word "empathy" in their brain housing groups..

    Riddler is their poster boy.icon_wink.gif
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    May 13, 2012 5:04 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    So, she knows nothing of the incident and was embarrassed by her gay brother. I'm sure if I felt the way she does, I wouldn't want anyone knowing my brother was a fag either.



    "The Christian Spin Zone" --- mildly amusing, wildly untrue
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    May 13, 2012 5:06 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidFrom the ABC article:

    "Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were “doing our own thing” at the time.

    When ABC News showed her the story, Christine Lauber’s eyes welled up with tears and she became agitated.

    She described her brother as a “very unusual person.”

    So, she knows nothing of the incident and was embarrassed by her gay brother. I'm sure if I felt the way she does, I wouldn't want anyone knowing my brother was a fag either.



    Wow you're an asshole - where do you see that she was embarrassed by her gay brother? That's quite an extrapolation - for a guy who seems to like lording over their supposed compassion because you supposedly make less money than you could in the private for profit world, you have neither class nor decency.

    It must really bother you that she also points out that he would have been angry about the "inaccuracies" in the reporting and how this undermines the narrative you push that the media isn't biased.


    I'm not the one trotting out a sister obviously embarrassed by her gay brother to minimize the fact that my candidate is a sociopath.

    I do have compassion, for those that need and deserve it. Not those who destroy people's livelihoods to enrich themselves or their sycophants.

    And if my brother was assaulted like this poor guy was, I wouldn't be embarrassed about it. I'd be livid at the douche bag who did it.

    It's really easy to pick on someone weaker, someone poor, someone "unusual." The real balls is in taking on the more powerful, not making excuses for their excesses.

    But look who I'm talking to. You could teach "Sociopathy 101", or perhaps even an advanced course in lacking empathy.


    Chris, just about everyone harassed, picked on, pranked everyone else in those days. There was nothing else to do. It truly was Animal House 24-7. I have plenty of experience with it ... I was one of the worst .... still am.
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    May 13, 2012 5:08 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said I have plenty of experience with it ... I was one of the worst .... still am.
    THAT, I have NO doubt about.
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    May 13, 2012 5:18 AM GMT
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    Christian73 said
    So, she knows nothing of the incident and was embarrassed by her gay brother. I'm sure if I felt the way she does, I wouldn't want anyone knowing my brother was a fag either.



    "The Christian Spin Zone" --- mildly amusing, wildly untrue


    And absolutely repulsive. He's earned his asshole label with that one. He attacks her for what? Just not agreeing to the media storyline? How depraved and disgusting is that?
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    May 13, 2012 5:21 AM GMT
    TropicalMark_GySgtUSMC said
    freedomisntfree said I have plenty of experience with it ... I was one of the worst .... still am.
    THAT, I have NO doubt about.


    That's why it's such a thrill at HS reunions. I'm amazed at the stuff I don't remember until someone brings it up. Ya just can't do that kind of stuff today ... I'd be in for 5 to 10 and so would just about everyone I knew.
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    May 13, 2012 5:27 AM GMT
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    And absolutely repulsive. He's earned his asshole label with that one. He attacks her for what? Just not agreeing to the media storyline? How depraved and disgusting is that?


    I think the vigor in which The Hen Squad jumps on any morsel of a potential scandal shows just how nervous they really are. Now apparently Christian is Clairvoyant --- able to read minds of subjects merely by reading an article. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 13, 2012 7:56 AM GMT
    Quoting something from "Breitbart.com" is a sure way to get your post extremely limited support.

  • GQjock

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    May 13, 2012 11:01 AM GMT
    You're still doing it

    You're still trying to make excuses for something that he did
    It was and is disgusting
    And it shows who he is as a person ..... Mainly because when he was first caught ..... YES caught
    His first ompulse was to deny that it ever happened
    THEN when he saw that his denial was fruitless because there were
    Witnesses to his assault on another man
    His next tactic was to laugh and issue a nonology apology?
    If anyone was offended .... I'm sorry ?????

    IF ANYONE WAS OFFENDED?

    Not I'm sorry for doing something stupid
    Not a statement that this kind of behavior is wrong

    But If anyones offended THEN I'm sorry

    UNTIL he issues the CORRECT apology Mr Romney needs to wear this like a badge and be reminded of it every time he is seen in public